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Day 8- Start of week 2! Day 9- No adjustments. The plant in Ocean Forest looks really good while on the other hand the Happy Frog is healthy but not near the size of the other plant. It may be a runt but we'll still stick her out. Day 10- In a way to improve from my first grow, I will be monitoring my runoff pH and documenting that as well to "fine tune" my setup. Gave Ocean Forest almost a 1/2 gal till runoff. *Runoff pH 6.3*. Gave a little over a 1/4 gal to Happy Frog. *Runoff pH 6.4*. Did a little bending on Ocean Forest since she's taller than Happy Frog. Day 11- No adjustments. Once plants start to yellow I will start watering them with CalMag Plus on their water only days at 2ml/gallon. Day 12- No adjustments. Day 13- Plants looking extremely well, especially Ocean Forest. I did some more light bending on her to prepare for LST in a few days. Day 14- End of week 2! Watered both plants with regular water about a 1/2 gallon each. Ocean Forest Runoff=6.4. Happy Frog Runoff=6.7. Ocean Forest is starting to see a little bit of lightening around the leave edges. But that lines up with me giving them CalMag Plus next watering, which I was going to do anyways. Even with adding Dolomite Lime in my soil my plants seem to sap their supply's very quickly with the Blurples. So I will be introducing 2ml/gallon on days when not on nutes. I think I may have finally found my groove. Hopefully 😊
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NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 2
That is definitely a size difference between the two so far. Could be the soil, could be the genetics, can't really say at this point. I think that they are off to a good start though either way. The end will tell us what we need to know.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, I understand what you are saying about the pots. And you are correct about the reusing purpose being defeated. I'm still curious to know your thoughts though once you are done with them. Nug on a stick, that is what will now call weed with huge stems from a dispensary. What did you buy? Some nug on a stick. Then we can leave a scathing review about the awful quality and demand a refund we can't get.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, ya my two Bubblicious that I grew before the one that is day 33. One was literally a nug on a stick πŸ˜‚ I fucked her up badly. Maybe get 2g dry off her and get maybe 7gs off her sister this Sunday when I harvest her. But this Bubblicious now...she's been preflowering for a week now after fighting a mag/cal deficiency (sinse I'm checking runoff more now) she's looking pretty! Not as tall as the LSDs, but these were supposed to be shorter anyhow. I'll have to be sure to check out your new journal for sure! So far I like the Root Pouches, normally I don't water seedlings till day 3, but I may have to water more frequently with them. Which isn't a bad thing if they dry out quicker since it promotes the wet and dry cycle. Having to buy a new container everytime, kinda defeats my reusing of things...but hey they were free πŸ˜‚ I'm not sure if we can message pictures to each other...but they are just as tall as my fabric pots that are 5 gallon as well. But not as wide around if that makes sense.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, humidity is something I used to fight with, all the time. I eventually said screw it because plants were still growing. I'll eventually get around to getting another one now that we have a tent. That is a funny story though, made me laugh πŸ˜†. I'll be posting our next grow here soon. Nirvana Bubblicious Auto. I couldn't find the last RQS Northern Lights seed, bummed me out. I've tried the Bubblicious before, but with less than stellar results, so I'll see how this one goes. Let me know how you like the Root Pouch after you use it.
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NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 11
@KCChiefers, you have some nice looking stacks there. What is that, 4 yo-yos? Must be a lot of weight if you took that many to hold it all up. Both of them are turning out nicely.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, I think the yoyos would be better as in hanging them from higher up like the tent. I just can't get them high enough to make it worthwhile hence using multiple ones for the same branch. And I have used that technique on a few branches currently. Well...tying them up to the bamboo stakes.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, we've had similar problems in the past, but didn't have any yo-yos. So we used some plant wire attached to a tomato cage or from one branch to another on the opposite side to pull them towards each other. Branches from below can have some wimpy branches depending on how late to the game they are. It's all looking good though man, the improvements from your last season are obvious.πŸ‘Š
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks man! I wish it was super heavy with all on one branch. They're just a pain in the ass. Lol but they work! Two are holding up one and the other two are holding up individual branches. Mainly it's the ones that grew up from below. They're heavy on they're little wimpy branches lol
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 7
So many tops πŸ™€πŸ˜ΊπŸ‘. Opening her up really helped. Looks even better than last season.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks! Yeah I'll definitely be sticking to Ocean Forest from now on, the difference is pretty crazy. I really like how your plant bushed out kind of like my Ocean Forest Amnesia. She looks so good 😍. I'm excited to see what this season brings for you! Happy new year's!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, you are welcome. I'm glad to hear that you are feeling more confident. That is what this is all about, growing some nice plants and learning how to get the best results out of each plant by taking what you know works and doesn't. Now I would say that if you are breaking many branches unintentionally, then yeah, you might be a little too comfortable πŸ˜€. It's all good though, you have identified a behavior and can now change that to keep improving. That FFOF is crazy, compared to that FFHF. I wouldn't even mess with the FFHF anymore unless you do come across a strain that really doesn't like FFOF. Yoyos are something that I don't have in my tool kit. I haven't had any branches that heavy yet, maybe one day. Keep up the good work on all the grows. πŸ‘
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks man! You definitely helped me get more comfortable bending the plant to how I want to form the LST. And may I say yours doesn't look too shabby neither! Only thing is I may be a little too comfortable as I've been snapped a few branches πŸ˜‚ Since Ocean Forest is growing outside her pot, I ordered some plant yoyos and will be placing those on branches as they get heavy. I'll still use bamboo stakes, but won't really help me on the outside lol.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 3
@KCChiefers, pull it down again and try to keep it down for a while. It won't mind being bent 90ish degrees for several days. Right now it looks like you are keeping it down for maybe a day, and not getting much horizontal growth to allow for hidden branches to get more vertical growth.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, sounds good! A buddy of mine was using these like long metal staple things. May have to see where he got em.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, Lol. I would suggest metal stakes or a plant tie that can be secured and has a metal spine. So the twist tie one that is like the stuff used for groceries, or the bigger gauge ones that look they are made of clay or putty. If they are anchored properly, they won't go and she'll stay.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, yeah maybe a day if not. She keeps breaking my restraints. I just want her to be a bad girl and let me tie her down πŸ˜‚ either that or I can't set a time to save my life. Could be both lol
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 2
@KCChiefers, that size difference is crazy. If you are curious to know if it is the FFOF making the difference compared to the FFHF, you could either run the same set up again. Or do one seed in each again, while growing other stuff, and compare the results from this grow so far. If you find the FFHF is around just as small, then I would avoid it for how much it impacts the growth rate. However, that is only based off how things appear right now. That plant could come through in the end and be a beast.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, that's a good idea too. I never thought about it that way, do you use a humidty dome on top of them since they're not in the germinating tray? And I've heard that about autos hence why I've never done anything besides the seed in the water method. But I'm hoping as soon as I see it sprout I can pop it in my medium, before I see roots coming out of the pellet like many sites seem to suggest lol.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, I would guess genetics to since I've seen people do well with FFHF even this early in their grows. Time will be the ultimate judge on that one. Sucks about the two Blueberries, but at least you have a backup plan in place. We use peat pellets for our grows. We prep the soil, since that is the medium we use, and while prepping the soil we start the peat pellet expansion process. After we are done with the soil, squeeze some of the excess water out of the pellet and place it in the soil. Make a small hole in the pellet for the seed and insert, cover with seed with the peat you moved, then a tiny bit of soil. 3-4 days later we have spouts. This has worked for us every season. With autos it is suggested to have as little transferring/transplanting as possible.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, it is crazy! I'm thinking it's mostly just a genetic difference but I'm interested to see as well! I'm a little behind on planting new seeds. My other two Blueberry Kush seeds didn't make it. So now I'm trying to get two Northern Lights Auto from Nirvana going. Previously I had been using water to germ seeds but a buddy of mine suggested to go the peat pellet route then transfer that into my grow medium instead. Curious to see if I have better luck with that method since it's cooler around this time of year in the house!
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 6
@KCChiefers, things are looking well in the garden. Plants look nice since you have opened them up. Keep up the good work. πŸ‘
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, you are welcome. The size difference is still crazy between your FFOF and FFHF. Testing the limits is what is all about to find out what you can and can't do. I agree on with you on the improvement in my LST technique between last season and now. She has taken off and is looking better each day. I'm still trying to find the method I like the most for LST. I think next time I may try to use the ponytail technique ( https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/the-pony-tail-technique-just-leaf-tucking.63939/ ) as well prior to LST. I'm also trying to decide when I want to start the LST. Maybe I could do it at the 4th node and be okay. But that is for another season to decide.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks man! Definitely happy with my LST on the Ocean Forest plant. Where as my northern lights I'm growing that's about 3 weeks old, is the worst LST I've ever done lol. I've just been kind of "testing" my limits that way I know when it's too early etc. Your bubblicious LST is at least 5x better than your last grow. She really took off and you will sure reap the benefits come harvest πŸ’ͺ
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 4
@KCCHiefers, I think you are trying to have a shorter plant on purpose! 😺 Last time you had a runt and this time you have another runt. I know your secrets. Besides just using the pipe cleaners, use the three-finger technique. It will allow you to gently and safely bend the branches before using something to hold them down. It may help you open her up even more than she currently is. As long as the branches and stalk are soft they can be bent and moved. Using the three-finger technique can also help reduce worry of breaking anything. Not guaranteed, but helpful.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, use three fingers to get the plant loose and limber. Then once it's nice and soft/bent, use a pipe cleaner to hold it down.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, I'm hoping it's genetics and not my brown thumb! πŸ˜‚ I feel like I'm getting more comfortable with my setup though which helps a bunch! So you're saying along with the pipe cleaners I can kind of use three fingers to force bend the plant? Until it's bigger to use the pipe cleaner? If I'm understanding correctly
justright
justrightweek 11
You are growing some nice plants. You are chopping them down way to early though. All I can advise is. let one grow way past what you do now to see the difference. They may seem like nothing is happening. But when they hit the last 2 weeks. They do bulk up. And for your question for the BG. Every thing I am growing now are taking about 4 weeks longer than what the breeder says. It also looked like you were checking trichomes on the leaves. They will mature much faster than on the buds. That is where they should be checked. I am enjoying your grows. You are doing great πŸ‘πŸ‘
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@justright, thanks for stopping by and giving me some insight! I'm doing a perpetual setup so I can harvest every 30 days. I'm thinking most plants should go to 90 days from now on so I can see them fatten up! I'm definitely getting bigger yields but I'd love for a bumper crop like you get! Thanks man! 😊
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 8
@KCChiefers, the ladies are looking good man. No color issues to indicate nutrient problems, nice stacking and formation. I think you are going to be happy this grow. πŸ‘
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks! I had a little bit of a n toxicity problem with the bigger one oddly enough. But it seemed to work itself out after a few days after watering. They're stacking very nicely! I just harvested my Bubblegum due to trichomes aging. I will have updated pics here soon. They main cola nug was almost as round as my wrist 🀀
raptor65
raptor65week 5
Happy growing mate and good luck with your growπŸ˜‰, good luck in your coming days and weeks with this wicked plant lol 😎, enjoy and all the best to youπŸ‘
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@raptor65, thanks man! I'm excited to see what she'll do for me 😁
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 5
@KCCHiefers, now keep her tied down like that! Don't remove her tie-downs for some time. Keep them kind of "loose" so she can grow and stretch, but don't let her go.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, im getting more comfortable bending the plants. Once you know they're not completely fragile, it makes doing it a lot easier. Thanks for the technique by the way! Going back on previous journal, these plants even at this age are bigger than my LSD so it has me excited! 😊
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 1
@KCCHiefers, this is the right attitude, "Since the Auto White LSD grow I've made many mistakes but my goal this time around is to learn from those and improve my green thumb a little bit more". Keep that up and you will improve every time. I know for me, I'm going to now measure ppm's and improve my nutrient ratios/watering schedules. I feel like I definitely have room to grow in those areas. I want to minimize nutrient lockout as much as possible while helping the roots take up the entire pot. Like I said, I have room to grow and that will be my area of focus.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, not a problem man! Life has been throwing me curve balls left and right! The Bubblegums I started didn't do so well. Started nutes to early and the other bubblegum I have now looks good but starting to yellow. Ph checks out but I think I have a case of fungus gnats in my tent πŸ˜‘ is why I'm showing issues. Ordered some sticky traps that'll be here Thursday and then if they are covered then top dressing of DE. Just frustrating lol. I think I have it down pat and then something else comes up! Unfortunately I think it killed one of my new babies 😒
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 11
@KCChiefers, good job on the harvest man. Another successful run. πŸ‘ You are going to be an at home pro in no time with this type of progress.
KCMOR8RH8R
KCMOR8RH8Rweek 10
Damn dude thats a fuckin monster
EZgrower
EZgrowerweek 6
Happy WEED-MAS! watching your grow .πŸ‘ check out my Xmas Video Contest 2019! πŸ‘ˆπŸ‘Š