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KCChiefers KCChiefers
4 years ago
Day 71- 2 more weeks give or take a few days, I will be harvesting this beauty. Technically, on day 78 I could harvest her, because that would be a 2 week flush of no nutrients. As much as I'd like to, I'm going to try something different this time around and harvest when a majority, if not all my fan leaves fall off. As you can see some of my leaves are already starting to lose their luster and green starting from the bottom, original fan leaves. Depending on how that progresses, I see myself realistically making it to at least day 80. But have my mind realistically saying day 84. Let's watch these buds fatten up these last 2 weeks! Day 72- Had a little wilting going on when I opened the tent today. She quickly received pH adjusted water and drank up almost a gallon until runoff. I'll keep an eye on her, but she may be drinking more often than every 4 days, now that she's ending her life cycle. Day 73- No major adjustments. Seems like she's swelling up. More of her leaves are starting to drain their nutrients as I had two lower fan leaves fall off today as I was taking pictures. Day 74- No major adjustments. Yellowing is progressing on all of the leaves, which means closer to harvest! Getting excited to cut this lady down. Day 75- No major adjustments. Day 76- Not watering due to harvesting tomorrow. Hoping to increase resin production. Trichomes are all milky and a few amber that I've seen. I checked multiple bud sites all over her, so she will be chopped down tomorrow. No pics unfortunately. Day 77- Harvest day! Let's just say I think this is 10x better than my first grow. Yes, the buds will lose weight once dry enough to put in jars. But I think what I love most about this time, is that my buds are actually dense. As. Fuck. Can't wait to show you, my gromies, this harvest once she is dried. Expect an update soon, when she goes into jars. That's when I'll upload the nug porn. End of week 11, and what a better way to end it with a harvest and a Patriots loss. Texans ain't got nothin' on us. 💪
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Grow Questions
KCChiefers
KCChiefersstarted grow question 4 years ago
I know breeders timeline for seeds is unrealistic, but this plant has gone two weeks past expections for seed. Not that I'm rushing it, but does she look ready? I'm only curious so I can have room in my tent for the next two for my perpetual setup. Thanks in advance! 😊
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 4 years ago
I've had autos go 2-4 weeks past the breeders estimate before and on the other hand my green crack was ready in less than 9 weeks from start to finish! You have to do what the plant and your instincts tell you to do, does it look ready, does it compare to other grows of same strain, do the trichomes look cloudy/amber when viewed as close as possible? So many different conditions and variables!
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justright
justrightweek 6
You are going to love this plant. i grew one from MSNL too. The colors are great. Has a nice sweet smell and has a nice kick to her. I will be following to see how you do
justright
justright
@KCChiefers, I tried to tag you but this will not do any thing. I just added my BG This is the link if it helps it is called MSNL Bubblegum auto growdiaries.com/diaries/46602-msnl-bubblegum-automatic-grow-journal-by-justright/week/222453
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@justright, thanks man I'll have to check a few of your journals out here later on tonight!
justright
justright
@KCChiefers, I normally grow autos. I have a few on here. If you ever want any advise. Feel free to give me a yell. I am pretty comfortable in coco and with autos. I got 3 or4 oz from my BG. I forget. She was a short bushy one, but nice solid buds. I use the GH flora grow trio my self. I finally have that dialed in pretty good so I can feed the autos a little more. I let mine finish her stretch. About 3rd week of flower. Then trim every thing under my scrog, stuff you know will not get light off. Once I am about 2/3rds in. I will start removing fan leaves. They are just there to help the branches grow. Little by little. I will remove all of my large fan leaves and a lot of the second set. I never touch the leaves connected to the buds "sugar leaves" This gets light to the lower buds and lets all the energy go into it. If you follow my Bubba kush. You will see what I mean. I started trimming her down last night. I will take pictures each night. To show about what I take each time. She is a super bush lol. I cut and she replaces them with even more. Good luck with your grow here. I am fallowing it closely
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justright
justrightweek 9
I am looking at this and you have at least 4 weeks to go. This will build up some really nice bud in the next 2 weeks. Any idea why she came out so small? This is a normally small plant. But it turns out pretty nice. I will add my BG to a journal here and tag you to give you an idea what I mean. I grow in coco as well.
justright
justright
@KCChiefers, I have used coco ince day one. it is a little more work. But it gives me a little more time with the plants. And your yields will be considerably more in coco. What I use is pretty basic Coco bricks, Perlite, GH flora grow trio for nutes. I use AN bud ignitor and AN Overdrive. Cal mag and you are ready to roll. You will also need a run off tray and a stand so the tray can sit under it. I made my own using an old bed frame and some wood. Added wheels and They are working out great. I hope mentioning other sites is ok here. Here is what I am working on now. You can find me over here a lot. I am in the lab there a lot. but come to the free side often. https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/not2sure-and-she-loves-me-she-loves-me-not/37570
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@justright, getting ready to take a look at it now! Have you also used coco as your medium? I've been interested in trying coco as it shows hydroponic results in terms of growth and all. Its just I'm so close to finally dialing in with Ocean Forest I think I'd be overwhelmed doing a side by side comparison. Besides nutes/pH what other things do you have to do with coco? I really haven't been able to find a good, detailed guide.
justright
justright
@KCChiefers, Thanks. I am looking at where you are and where mine would be. I am going to see if I can upload the complete grow in one shot. So you can get an idea of what I got. MSNL have always given me great seeds. My big bud auto I did from them gave me 9 oz dry on my very first grow. I am in coco though and not soil. Autos seem to really like me. I am just starting to grow photos. I will get the grow on here now though. I will tag you in a just a few
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NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 11
@KCChiefers, definite improvements over your last season. Good job man, it's nice to see you growing and improving each season. 👍👊
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, you should try some on Sunday. We'll try some the same day we start the cure, several days after, and then as needed. I would suggest that was well that way you can understand the profile change during the different stages of the curing process. You may find that you enjoy it more after a short cure versus a long cure. Two weeks is what people say, but it's not a rule that needs to be followed.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks man! The hard part is not wanting to touch it just yet. I finally got my jars to stabilize at 65% today. I think I may try some out on Sunday for the Chiefs game though 😌
justright
justrightweek 11
Congrats on another harvest. She looks great
justright
justright
@KCChiefers, I think we are all in the same boat there. Every plant we grow gives us a little more info for the next. My Critical purple is finally showing that she may be a little monster like the first I did. She is finally starting to build buds sites at a good rate.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@justright, thanks! She doesn't look quite as pretty as yours nor as heavy lol, but I think I may have had a part in that chopping maybe too soon. Still trying to find my groove and what I like better in harvesting. Can't wait to try her out! 😊
Master_weeda
Master_weedaweek 11
Wow 👏👏👏 Good job bro 👍
Master_weeda
Master_weeda
@KCChiefers, the next will be better and the others too the progression is constant 😉 all students and all masters 👍 good luck for your culture May the force be with you 💪
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@Master_weeda, thanks man! Slowly getting a hold of my set up and everything dialed in. Next journal should be 10x better
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 11
@KCChiefers, what are you doing to determine if the soil is "dry" or not? 4 days this late in the game seems really long between watering. Not saying it's not possible, but it sounds excessive.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, well one thing I have learned is to NOT use a human schedule to determine what the plant wants or is doing. The finger method is also somewhat subjective in my opinion. We all don't have the same fingers and sense of touch. My suggestion would be to pinch the soil with all your fingers and pick it up. Does it fall loosely out of your hands? And by loosely I mean does 90%+ fall out of your hands. Or does it stick together in chunks/clumps? If it's falling away, the soil is dry. If it is trying to stay together there is still enoguh mositure in the soil. Waiting until the top layer is bone dry is also drying the soil futher down which can have a negative impact on water flow and nutrient uptake. You also risk harming the roots that should be trying to grow near the top as well.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, honestly just been watering every 4 days as a schedule. I haven't really checked besides lifting the pot. Do they require more watering later in flower? I should probably go back to the finger test.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 9
@KCChiefers, have you defoliated any of the fan leaves pushing in towards the middle of the plant? If not, you may want to consider leaving the exterior leaves on to keep collecting light but removing anything facing the inside that is covering up flowering sites. Then you can get more bud growth without sacrificing your light collecting capacity too much. Later in growth, the fan leaves aren't as important but can still be functional for light collection and nutrient feed as you begin the flush.
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFans
@KCChiefers, now that I look at the photos again. I can't say if you should do more defoliation. I can't see enough of the flower sites to see what if anything is blocked. If nothing is blocked and you are happy with what you have don't cut anything, Just keep tucking like you are. Tucking really is better if you can avoid having to defoliate. I've been tucking as well but will have some defoliation coming up soon. I'll need to get rid of the dead weight and help expose some areas.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, I have not done so, because I was scared I'd shock it somehow and because I've never done any major cutting besides what is on the bottom of the plant that wouldn't get light. Should I cut a few every day or just trim all in one day? I would say about 20-25 days she'll be done. There's maybe a handful of leaves that I would like to get rid of. Everything else I was able to tuck out of the way
NeedsMoreFans
NeedsMoreFansweek 10
@KCChiefers, I think those bamboo stakes are a good idea with that weight. 👍 Stacking nicely.
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@NeedsMoreFans, thanks man I'm probably going to try and use plant yoyos on my bigger amnesia plant
Fitzwell
Fitzwellweek 8
Nice bumbaclots growsexual
KCChiefers
KCChiefers
@Fitzwell, thanx broski! Hopefully this second grow does better than my first! 😂
Swanbergs
Swanbergsweek 8
Very nice! Running 3 of this strain right now hoping for same results... awesome diary!