Masha_Bro Hey everyone!
I got a sativa from Fast Buds called Blue Dream' Matic to try out.
Today, 01/11/20, we're starting to germinate the seed.
I put it in a glass of Bon Aqua water, pH 6.3, ppm 170, temperature 25°C.
I left it in a dark place for 15 hours.
Next, I'll keep it in a damp paper towel in a dark place for a day.
For germination, I'll use a 0.2 ml peat tablet. I'll water it with the same water. From the second week, I’ll transplant it into a 0.4 ml peat tablet (pH 5.9, ppm 400). From the third week, I'll transplant it into a 10-liter pot and use coconut, watering it with previously settled tap water.
I rinsed the coco in running water, adjusted the pH and ppm. Then I charged it with Cal Mag buffer at 1200-2000 ppm, pH 6.5. Calcium and magnesium absorption is best at this pH level.
I left it for 10 hours. Rinsed it again in running water and lowered it to 300 ppm and pH 5.5. I added 1 liter of vermiculite and perlite for every 10 liters of coco. Mixed it all together.
I will use fertilizers according to the GHE table for coconut.
For the first 1-2 weeks, the plant will grow in the peat tablet with a drainage output of pH 5.9, ppm 400, and from the 3rd week, I’ll transplant it into coco.
The growing range is pH 5.5 - 5.9
ppm 300 - 1000.
Humidity 65% - 45%
Temperature 24°C - 28°C
Light cycle 20/4
10+ weeks
I’ll try to describe everything in detail.
Thanks everyone! If you have any tips, write them in the comments.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7y ago
1/7
5 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
5.9
pH
No Smell
Smell
350 PPM
TDS
65 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
23 °C
Night Air Temp
0.4 liters
Pot Size
0.4 liters
Watering Volume
60 cm
Lamp Distance
Masha_Bro 2nd week transplanting into a 0.4 cup.
pH 5.9 ppm 400 on the output.
Watering with pH 6.5.
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Week 3. Vegetation
7y ago
1/8
10 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
5.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
350 PPM
TDS
65 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
23 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
1.5 liters
Watering Volume
40 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra
0.5 mll
TriPart Grow
0.6 mll
TriPart Micro
0.7 mll
Masha_Bro Day 15 Transplanting into Coco. Watering.
Next, compote according to the ghe nutrient scheme. Starting from week 3. Ppm 350, ph 5.5
Clean Water 200ppm, ph 6.9 we lower to ph 5.5 (12 drops per 1.5l ph down⬇️)
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Week 4. Vegetation
7y ago
1/13
15 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
No Smell
Smell
650 PPM
TDS
65 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
1.5 liters
Watering Volume
30 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 4
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra
1 mll
TriPart Grow
1 mll
TriPart Micro
1 mll
Masha_Bro Here comes week 4. It's growing slowly. Maybe the root system is developing. Let's hope it starts growing faster from this week. I'll keep an eye on the nutrients. Growing in coco is a delicate matter. The main thing is that there are experienced guys who are always ready to help. Thanks to them for that! 🙋♀️🤙👏
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Week 5. Vegetation
7y ago
1/18
30 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
45 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
2 liters
Watering Volume
25 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow
0.6 mll
TriPart Micro
0.4 mll
TriPart Bloom
0.8 mll
Masha_Bro Last week of Veg... raising PPM to 750-800, pH for the feed at 5.6-5.9. Water 2-2.5 liters.
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Week 6. Flowering
7y ago
1/19
50 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Normal
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
45 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
3 liters
Watering Volume
25 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow
1 mll
TriPart Micro
0.8 mll
TriPart Bloom
0.7 mll
Masha_Bro Here comes the color) let's hope everything goes according to plan))👋👌
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Week 7. Flowering
6y ago
1/28
60 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Strong
Smell
800 PPM
TDS
45 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
4 liters
Watering Volume
25 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow
0.6 mll
TriPart Micro
0.8 mll
TriPart Bloom
1.1 mll
Masha_Bro Week 7. A strong smell has appeared. Everything is going fine so far. From this week, I will water more abundantly... and more often.
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Week 8. Flowering
6y ago
1/16
80 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Strong
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
45 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
5 liters
Watering Volume
20 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow
0.5 mll
TriPart Micro
1 mll
TriPart Bloom
1.5 mll
Masha_Bro start of the eighth week PH is high (not dropping... we'll try to fix it. ppm is kept around 1000.
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Week 9. Flowering
6y ago
1/40
90 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
29 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Strong
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
35 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
6 liters
Watering Volume
20 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
TriPart Grow
0.5 mll
TriPart Micro
1 mll
TriPart Bloom
1.5 mll
Masha_Bro Last week with GHE nutrients. Over the weekend, the pH dropped sharply; I thought it was the pH meter... but no, I bought a new one, calibrated it, and the pH really did drop to 5.3.
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Week 10. Flowering
6y ago
1/23
90 cm
Height
22 hrs
Light Schedule
29 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Strong
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
35 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
6 liters
Watering Volume
20 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
FinalPart
4.7 mll
Masha_Bro New week 10 I'm pouring Ripen 1000ppm ph 6.3 6L. In the morning and evening.
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Week 11. Flowering
6y ago
1/34
90 cm
Height
22 hrs
Light Schedule
29 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Strong
Smell
1000 PPM
TDS
35 %
Air Humidity
25 °C
Solution Temp
25 °C
Substrate Temp
25 °C
Night Air Temp
6 liters
Pot Size
6 liters
Watering Volume
20 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
FinalPart
4.7 mll
Masha_Bro Beginning of week 11. The trichomes have started to take on an amber hue. I think I'll do Ripen for another 2 days, then water for 3 days. On Saturday, I'll turn off the lights and leave them in the dark for a day, then on Sunday, it's Harvest time. I'll start drying from week 12)
Продукт получился более чем достойный) Пока не совсем понятно по ощущением) Однако очевидно что это Сатива которую нужно употреблять днем) Хорошее настроение и энергия а также ощущения детской беззаботности и прилив творческий сил гарантировано! из негативных эффектов их почти нет хочется спать и на след день немного раслабленность. По выращиванию скажу что в начале саженца и переход на вегетацию было немного волнительно. т.к были проблемы с PH и PPM листья были вялыми или просто был перелив.. так как я первый раз выращивала на кокосе.
Но в середине вегетации мне помогли продвинутые гроверы! что в последующем хорошо сказалось на Растихе и на моих способностях и навыках. Спасибо отдельно : Afterglow ! Урожай получился как надо! Я довольна!
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Masha_Bro I'll probably do the next grow in the winter)
Based on the trends, your buds are going to grow nicely. Keep watering in the same spirit without any "clean" flushes with water and starvation. You can flush, but you must use a nutrient solution.
I have two serious inline fans in my tent that prevent moisture from lingering and developing mold. I don’t know about you, but nonetheless, until the 4th week of flowering (inclusive), spray Cal+Mag on the leaves. After that, it will be useless and unnecessary.
And you can already add a quarter dose of phytosporin to your spray bottle. Or once a week according to the instructions. This is just in case to prevent mold from developing.
Your Grow and Bloom should now switch places in terms of proportions.
Also, keep the drainage output around 1000 PPM (essentially from 1500 to 2000 PPM in the substrate), otherwise, the leaves will start to wilt. Now you have full flowering and need to focus not on the previous output and current input, but just on the output, so your plant doesn’t starve and can always draw the necessary elements from the coconut.
Your task is to maintain the integrity of the leaves so that the tips and edges don’t die off. The leaves should remain intact all the way to harvest. If you look at the photos of many growers, you’ll see that at harvest, their leaves turn into sad brown messes. That’s bad. That’s why they do what’s called TRIM. The leaves should be whole, and the buds are harvested together with the leaves, which also retain a lot of trichomes (unless you plan to make kif). When a leaf dies, the trichomes evaporate too. In the best case, during ripening, the leaves turn yellow or red, depending on the strain. Nitrogen and phosphorus leave them. The main thing is that potassium doesn’t leave, as its absence destroys the leaf structure. The leaf structure is the main transport for all nutrients, just like the stem.
P.S. Zhgulёva?
@Afterglow, thanks :) I'll stick to your advice. There doesn't seem to be any moisture, everything is well-ventilated and aired out, I add fertilizers right away. Right now, I'm mainly boosting phosphorus and potassium. I'm also using Cal-Mag on the leaves. As for phytosporin, I don't know anything about it. I'll read up on it. :)
With you, Sisters! Way “mutila” substrate, like! I used to bother washing and stabilization, but recently - I use a ready-made substrate... it remains only to be released from the packaging, put in a container and immediately grow on- health, stabilization and dop.pit.additives are present, of course more expensive than in blocks to buy, but saves time, nerves and the result is always the same - positive... no less than what promises sedent- bank. I dressed up Christmas tree - credit! 👍
@Masha_Bro, yes, they're telling the truth. You just need to moisten and mix it, but under no circumstances should you rinse it! Yours has green mold in the mix, so rinsing is not allowed!
A bit small for 3 weeks, my advice to you sis, forget about coconut, it's a constant hassle with it, at least for me. Soil mix is the way to go. I also have BD growing right now. You should see the 3-week-old coconut I threw out.
@smoking_hills9, thanks)
Yeah, I decided to try it for the first time :) my first grow in soil had no problems at all. Knowledge is needed) I think time and advice from experienced growers will yield results.
@Masha_Bro, I would increase the PPM to 500-600, that's just right for your stage.
Coconut is tricky to understand, but once you figure out how and what to do and how to navigate the instruments - you'll forget about soil forever. With coconut, it's easier to fix mistakes and control growth.
For dosing, I recommend using an insulin injection syringe. It has more precise markings, or a 2cc syringe.
The bud in the first photo is exactly like the bud from the Fastbuds site for this strain, respect to the breeder for the match👌
And of course, huge respect to the grower!
If it's not too much trouble, could you take a full photo of the bush? 🙏
Cool! Good luck with the growing.
Regarding the nutrient chart. Each strain absorbs nutrients differently, plus it depends on the roots. The ratios are manageable, but pH and PPM need to be monitored, and that's how you determine how and how much to water.
The principle is simple! You need to remember three watering and measurement rules, or better yet, write them down in a table.
PPM rises, pH drops: reduce the nutrient dose
PPM drops, pH rises: increase the nutrient dose
PPM stays the same, pH rises: all good
Water it with clean water afterward to measure the readings, as the plant responds to feeding on the second day.
At some point, you can just keep pouring the mix, based on how the bush is eating according to the readings.
Well, that's good. Look how much it has shot up and out for you. But you're not getting much drainage. With your watering, it would be good to have half a liter, otherwise, you'll salt the substrate and then you'll have a hard time flushing it out.
How much do you plan to harvest from the plant? Your pot is big, but there's not much light. I have 200 watts and a 3.8-liter pot. And you have 120 watts, I think, and about 10 liters. I can easily collect a two-liter jar of buds from my 3.8-liter pot.
And in your conditions, I would do a FIM cut right now.
@Masha_Bro, This is not a fim cut, it's topping. I told you, read it, I even provided a link to the picture. But whatever, it's not a big deal. You'll get two new branches anyway.
@Afterglow, damn (yeah, I already realized that I probably did topping..( there were so many leaves that it's all a mess (everything is just piling on top of each other..
@Afterglow, got it. I'll support for another week, maybe until Wednesday on the ripening. Then I'll flush for 3 days and on Sunday it's darkness and drought and harvest. :)
@Masha_Bro, focus on the trichomes. Mine have started to take on a slightly milky color, and I’ll begin ripening next week. Plus, I’ve started to see some sensimilla growth, which is a sign that ripening has begun. Two weeks ahead and then harvest. I’ll ripen for about 9-10 days, then water and also harvest. I tried my future yield. It's great. I’ve already lit up some of the old harvest, and this one is really good.
How's it going? Is there a difference from the last grow in terms of growth and dynamics? Do you like growing in coco? Is it not so scary anymore?
For the future, I recommend a 4-liter pot. Autoflowers don't need more than that, and in 4 weeks of veg, the plant won't fill the pot with roots anyway. Plus, it's convenient to water: exactly 2 liters of nutrient solution. By morning, everything evaporates from the pot, the roots get to breathe oxygen, and you’ll never overwater the plant or create a swamp. Overall, 4 liters is just right!
Don't flush too much with plain water. You won't adjust the pH, but you might mess up the PPM. Plain water is used when you want to remove strong salt buildup or when you’re drastically changing the nutrient solution. If you're worried about salt buildup, do this: place the pot in a container and pour in a regular dose of nutrient solution so that it all drains into the container and the pot is submerged by a third. Wait 2-3 minutes, take out the pot, then water it again with the same nutrient solution. Let it drain well. Check the pH and PPM. Only the nutrient solution can quickly and accurately adjust the pH and PPM. You won't be able to balance the pH with plain water, even if you pour in 30 liters, because cation exchange happens in the coco itself, especially with your hard water.
And by the way, whether it's the photos that convey the color or something else, but the leaves are taking on a brownish tint. Check the petioles of the big old leaves from the bottom. If they are red all the way down, then there’s clearly a phosphorus deficiency. I noticed because your stigmas started to dry out - either it's too hot, or there really isn't enough phosphorus.
@Masha_Bro, Make a compote with this ratio: Grow 1/ Micro 2/ Bloom 3. For 2 liters, you'll get just the right amount in milliliters. Water with this compote. In two days, the pH will be back to normal. And keep watering with this same compote.
@Masha_Bro, So, as I said, you have a phosphorus deficiency. Apparently due to the wrong mix. Don't worry, everything will be fine. Nothing critical yet, the leaves haven't started dying. Do you have Ripen? You can start giving it to them in a week or two. A week of Ripen, a week of plain water, and then it will be harvest time.
@Masha_Bro, For the future, to prevent the coconut from drying out quickly, use more perlite and vermiculite. Without any drainage like foam or expanded clay. It's better not to use a grow bag, just a plastic pot, make more holes at the bottom and on the sides, and it will be fine with substrate moisture.
If you want to try it faster, break one bud into smaller buds, they'll dry quicker. The stem will push water into the buds until the very end. Usually, people dry the whole branch, but I prefer to separate the buds and dry them in the smallest fraction possible. They dry faster that way, and the stem doesn't push salts into the buds.
@Masha_Bro, if there’s no dew point during drying, then there won’t be any mold. The main thing is that it shouldn’t be cold and the humidity should be low. You can just put the small buds in a shot glass or a cup and that’s it... nothing will happen to them, no need for unnecessary gauze or netting. You just need it to try, not for sale.
@Afterglow, yeah, exactly. I haven't been home all day. I came back in the evening and the temperature was 32. Does this affect the trichomes in any way? It feels like they're not as juicy anymore. I'll post a photo tomorrow.
By the way, such light spots and patches in the center of the leaves usually indicate a magnesium deficiency (the plant was just hungry at that time). You have a great product from Advanced Cal+Mag. Take a spray bottle, dilute it at a rate of 2ml per liter, and spray the leaves a couple of times a day. This will cool the leaves and replenish the magnesium deficiency. In soil and substrates, potassium is the antagonist of magnesium. The color of the leaves will mostly lack magnesium because there will be an excess of potassium in the mix. And magnesium deficiency suppresses phosphorus uptake, which is needed for flowering. Even sensimilla will actively consume potassium because empty calyxes are forming for future seeds. So during the vegetative stage, the old leaves need to be well charged with magnesium so they don't yellow and die prematurely. Overall, throughout the period until the buds start swelling, you need to spray magnesium on the leaves. Plus, you have Flora Series for hard water, and there's plenty of magnesium in there. So just Cal+Mag on the leaves. Also, Advanced's NPK is 4-0-0. But I still add Cal-Mag to the mix while reducing Flora Micro because it also has a lot of magnesium and nitrogen. Magnesium during the vegetative stage increases green mass, but if you overdo it with magnesium and nitrogen, it can lead to nitrogen toxicity.
@Masha_Bro, no, you won't burn it ))) Some recommend using pharmacy magnesium sulfate, but it's practically useless. The thing is, fertilizers contain magnesium nitrate, which is better absorbed. But with magnesium sulfate, you might end up with a sulfur overdose, which is already abundant in fertilizers. Plus, magnesium sulfate leaves a white residue on the leaves - that's the salt drying out.
I spray 2-3 times a day. A couple of sprays on the plant, so it gets fine droplets, and don't soak it too much.
@Masha_Bro, don't worry. The leaves aren't curled, they're just wavy. That's normal. It means the leaf will keep growing. Once a leaf stops growing, its surface evens out, and the petiole thickens. That's how nature designed it. The leaf is growing and doesn't know which side the sun will be on, so as it grows, they are bumpy to have the chance to catch sunlight. But since you're feeding them well, they're growing fast and still don't realize how big they've gotten and that the sun is always on one side.
@Masha_Bro, yes, your water is hard, magnesium is fine there. Just when you switch to flowering, stop adding cal-mag to the mix because its excess will interfere with potassium absorption. You can't overdose on magnesium, but too much will prevent other elements from being absorbed. All gardeners charge with magnesium nitrate before planting, and then they don't feed anymore. So for the first half of flowering, just feed through the leaves.
Wow.. look how lively the plant got on the third day, the leaves started to look like leaves. It’s going to start growing right before your eyes (check out my report for the 30th and 31st day after leaf trimming for reference), and in a couple of weeks, you won’t be able to keep up with watering the coco because it will suck up water instantly. Keep watering like you are. At least 30% of the nutrient solution in the drainage. It’s better to pour half, and then add the rest after 5 minutes. When I water during the veg stage, I shake the pot to let the excess drain out so the coco is just moist. Usually, there are no problems during veg, but they can start during flowering. By that time, we’ll guide you on what to do. If you notice that the drainage isn’t what you expect, flush with clean water at the right pH, then charge it.
Many suggest alternating watering with nutrient solution and clean water, but I think that’s complete nonsense since coco is basically the same as hydroponics.
During flowering, the output pH changes. The thing is, when the plant consumes nitrogen, phosphorus, and calcium, it actually alkalizes the soil. So I recommend aiming for a pH of 6.9-7.1 during veg. In fact, when you pour in pH 5.6 and the output is 7.0, it means that at the time of watering, the pH was higher, around 8. So creating a deficiency or flushing with clean water is a mini stress. The environment, like in hydroponics, should be relatively stable. During veg, the plant releases more anions that alkalize the soil. Roots can actually thrive at a pH from 4 to 9, but at different pH levels, the absorption of different elements varies. You need to understand that when you pour nutrient solution at 5.6-5.8 and the output pH is 7.0, that’s about the ideal environment for soil. But the coco environment is neutral and cannot absorb substances.
So during flowering, the consumption changes and potassium (the most), magnesium, iron, copper, and zinc are consumed more, but cations are released that acidify the soil. So during flowering, your output pH will actually decrease and may drop to 6.3-6.8. The main thing is to understand that you’re in flowering and the drainage will be different. The main focus is on PPM. We’ll guide you by that time.
P.S. I had a bet with a colleague on who can grow mint and rosemary faster and better: we went to the store, bought seeds and substrates. Poor guy doesn’t know I’m an experienced grower and have the means and ways to grow. It’ll be fun when we compare results.
P.P.S. I’d recommend lowering your lights even more. About 20 centimeters from the plants.
@Afterglow, it's a bit hard to perceive everything about the color right now.. but I think I'll understand it better over time! I lowered the lamp. It definitely got a bit too warm for her.. I've started to ventilate more...