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day 1 nutrient change 0n 30 ml per 10 litres
day 2 1 x 10 litre top up
day 3
1 x 10 litre top up 30 ml bloom
6 plants harvested
day 4
4 plants harvested
10 plants harvested 30 to go
used to NL feminised these would give a show of 2nd flush trichomes
wait for them to die off then harvest
DO Autoflowers do the same. or 1 long flush
been waiting for them but nothing yet.
Only 2 of plants on 11 weeks app finish.
harvest will go over 4/5 weeks by the looks of it
@Shagrath, Is right , you must talk about pistols ( hairs , visible at 1st sight ) and the trichomes ( so small that you need a x40 magnifier to see if they are clear , cloudy or amber ).
He is also right about the fact that you can have a 1st load of white pistols that are getting brown before you can see a second load of white pistols that will again turn brown. On the contrary the trichomes are 1st clear , then are turning cloudy/white and are finishing their life brown/amber
Do you mean the white pistils that turn brown? Then again new wave of pistils come and this happens for couple times before everything's ready? I don't think that trichomes will die off 'cos they just form and mature. They will mature in different times but never should they die
If you mean the white hairs (Pistils) then yes I think autos would follow the same growing pattern probably.
Got my wording wrong to what you are used to my apologies.
i call it a flush of trichomes
on northern lights you would get a first lot of trichomes, these would die off then a second set of trichomes thicker than the first would appear
do autos follow the same was what i was asking
I am taking pictures while waiting for the harvest . That mutation will not affect the taste , the effect , the yield or anything important for us growers.
So don't worry and continue to take pictures of that mutation to show them to us
Polyploid flowers! People intentionally modified plants to have extra set of chromosomes.
More flowers, grow faster, and resist desirable.
I would feed her a little more than usual and look out for mold as the mug is a bit more dense. Also lay off seaweed.
4 days in dark @ 20C 100% germination.
Day 5 system loaded running plain water until first leaves show
Day 5 Nightime seedlings sprouted first leaves
Nutrient added about 3/4 strength.
Day 6 picture not a lot too show at the mo.
Feature on one seedling till theres something to show.
First week of life over.
Little sprout shown a bit of growth
Breeders estimate is always just that an estimate. I find most strains take a couple of weeks longer than suggested. And you will have to make that judgement later on.
1st day of week 2 change nutrient today
why .
started @ app 3/4 strength added a top up taking ppm a tad higher dont want to risk nutrient lock out trying to get E.C up to 2.0
i do not use meters, there a pain in the butt calibrating going out calibrating so i use my eyes
watch the plants
use makers recommended 7 ml per litre gives around 2.0 and its self P.H.ing leaves it at around 7.0
since P.H. does no harm between 4 and 9.0 i dont bother to PH taking it too 6.1
2nd day of week 2 .
nothing to do system runs and grows
3rd day week 2
3rd set of leaves showing tiny lill pips in the crease.
4th day week 2 she's fattened a little and branches are starting to gap
5th day stem is starting to get thicker and getting gaps between the leaves
6th day week 2 added nutrient 10 litres water 70 mm nutrient
Last day of week two 1st set of branches appearing
Day 1 of week 3, 11 days of light so far second set of branches appearing in the crook of the stem
Day 2 featured plant measures 4 inches
jumps starting used around 5 litres of water last night
top up 10 litres 70 mm nutrient
Day 3 plant measures a tad over 5 inches
nutrient top up 10 litres water 70 mm nutrient
Day 4 Just on 6 inches
day 5 a tad under 7 inches
nutrient top up 10 litres 70 mm nutrient
Day 6 a little under 8 inches
using close to 10 litres a day letting nutrient run down tonight for a nutrient change tomorrow
last day of this week 9 inches today theres a few still small around 4/5 inches other than that mostly fairly even
changed nutrient about 40 litres to waste unfortunately.
topped up to max 70 litres, nute tank a little on the small side but get away with it OK.
I have heard many things about it too , so I've heard the 7th set of branches things , I've heard it's when the roots are hitting the bottom of the pot and start to settle the plant will flower soon.
What I've experiment makes me says that autos are not on the same "line" when it comes to flowering , some are flowering pretty quick and some are giving you the time to train them , it's mostly genetic to me ( depending on the photoperiodic used for the cross )
first day week 4
Decreasing light hours by 1 hour every 3 days from today 19/5
nutrient change yesterday
featured plant +10 inches today growth rate starting to accelerate. its on right hand tube 3rd in view
Lot of the ladies are showing female preflowers. Taking that as first signs of flowering some are lagging behind
My guess is some will come out on 11 weeks plus a week for the rest
2nd day nutrient top up 2 x 10 litres 70 mm of nutrient in each
featured +11 inches
3rd day featured lady has hit flowering stretch 2 inches last night she's now 13 inches
10 litres water 70 mm nutrient top up
4th day
hours down too 18/6
Autoflowers are a strange mix seems they decide themselves when they want to grow and go into flower since there are a few lagging behind will leave @ 18/6 probably more than 3 days
nutrient top up 2 x 10 litres 140 mm nutrient
featured is at 15 inches preflower stretch 2 inches grown last night
5th day
2 x 10 litre 140 mm nutrient top up. up too 20 litres a day usage
featured girl 17 inches
under canopy lighting switched on today
Day 6
20 litres of nutrient used overnight top up 2 x 10 litres 70 mm in each
Featured shes 19 inches
Noticed some light tips on new foliage . Nutrient change will sort that
full tank of fresh nutrient 70 litres
featured she's 21 inches +
last day of this week
Preflower stretch is showing plants all over the place size wise, looking at them think they will even themselves up a bit, how much not a clue.
last day of this week featured shes up too 23 inches
nutrient use around 23 litres overnight.
1st day of week 5 in flower now.
still pre stretching
30 litres of water 3 x 70mm nutrient top up.
day2 20 litres top up 2x 70 mm of nutrent
featured she's 27 inches
light hours down too 17/7
Table will be about 50% down on yield because these plants are all over the place they SHOULD all be like the featured. But because Autos do it when they please it don't please me.
go back to feminised seeds for the next time, much better evenness of canopy.
day3
top ups 2 x 10 litres 140 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom phasing bloom into nutes now
featured she's @ 29 inches
heads are starting to appear.
day 4
nutrient top up 1 x 10 litre 70 ml grow 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom
featured she's 31 inches.
After reading an article last night light hours are now 12/12 Thanks Darkwarsongs
was on the way down there the reading confirmed it.
Day 5
1 x 10 litres 70 ml grow
1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom top up
featured girl is coming to the end of preflower stretch not quite 2 inches last night
Day6 featured she's just on 34 inches going too building phase
1 x 10 litre 70ml grow
1 x 10 litre 70ml bloom top up
last day of this week featured girls on 35 inches pre flower growth virtually over now
1 x 10 litre 70 ml grow
1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom
1st day of a new week
1 x 10 litre and 60 ml top up
Leaving tank low with one top up so tank is low for a nutrient change tomorrow
featured she's over 3 foot now. run out of tape measure
Defoliation is daily just leaves that are covering buds nothing to heavy
Day2 given up with featured lady as she's hemmed in a bit now
todays view is from the other end there's a 4 foot plus coming up on the right hand side
featured you can see with yellow tape
changed nutrient today just bloom nutrient now.
3rd day picture from other end of room a bit more to see from here
15 litres top up (run out of nutes)
10 litres + 70 ml bloom last night
Day 4
top up 2 x 10 litres with 70ml bloom in each
heads are still growing preflower on some and full flower on others
5th day
cleared about 2lbs of leaf from around the UCL last night
2 x 10 litres with 70 ml bloom in each top up.
Believe cutting light to 12 hours has helped the canopy is more even now.
Day 6
2 x 10 litres + 70 ml nutrient top up
pre flower stretch is still going on This first started at end of week 3 expecting harvesting to carry over 3 weeks once it starts
Last day of week 6
well its all gone a bit potty last of the plants doing there preflower stretch going to have to go in a have a good defoliate.
2 x 10 litres 70 ml bloom in each top up
Unusual smell emanating from the grow room That was my oscillating fan to close to the wall got stuck and hot.
1st day of a new week
Know when the rooms getting there have to use a stool so can reach to work on the canopy
1 x 10 litre top up with 70 ml nutes
not as much nutrient top up this morning this is due to defoliation
Looking at the canopy you would never believe took about a pound of leaf away last night.
2nd day
Nutrient change today
colour of the nutrient coming off. all is well it is a lot paler than what is going in. This shows the plants are using nutrient more than water.
Watching your run off tells you when the plants use less nutrient.
Changing nutrient on a weekly basis as do not P.H. or check my E.C.
Including the water running around the roots can only get 80 litres in the tank. Ideally would use 3 litres per plant ratio would decrease nutrient changes
Using a self P.H. nutrient does it all for you 7 ml per litre of water. mixed in a 10 litre bucket tipped into tank. Job Done.
Do not put water in tank then add nutrient this causes nutrient lockout through not Chealating.
Day3 todays picture show how much difference there is between the plants, this will be one of the first too be harvested and guess where she is right in the middle of the table
10 litres +70ml bloom top up
this morning did a bit of defoliating 170 grams of leaf removed and a bit more this evening 215 grams removed a lot more light to the smaller bud they will start stacking now
4th day 2 x 10 litres with 70 ml bloom top up
picturing just one plant as to difficult to try and picture the whole will do a video soon
310 grams of leaf removed this evening
5thday no pic broke the camara download lead
2 x 10 litres 70 ml bloom in each top up
nutrient use is down a little from defoliation takes a couple of days recovery
140 grams of leaf removed this evening
6th day 105 grams of leaf removed this morning
2 x 10 litres 70 ml bloom top up
209 grams of leaf removed this evening
last day of this week doing a video next week as its to crowded to take good shots
2 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom in each top up
343 grams of leaf removed tonight
changed nutrient this morning run off coming back with less colour than fresh nutrient so you can see the plants have used most all the nutrient in the water
Picture of Quantum' crib
2 x 600 watt hps
1 x 4 inch extractor fan with tube to suck from top by lights this goes up the chimney gives extra suction
no inlet fan use natural venting of site by leaving door ajar causes a good through draft
mylar all around to keep the light in
floor level oscillating fan updraft filters through the canopy
220 grams of leaf removed this evening
Adding pk13/14 boost 1 ml per litre on top ups
about 50 grams of leaf last night thats slowing down now buds have room to stack two of the plants starting first flush 52 days from going in the cupboard they will be out in 11 weeks the others up too 15 weeks
top up 2 x 10 litres 70 ml bloom in each no boost
day 3 10 litre top up 70 ml bloom 10 ml boost pk13/14
4th day 1 10 litre with 70 ml bloom
5th day changing nutrient today did this as was not happy with usage past couple of days it slowed to 1 x 10 litre top up
run off showed a lot of pk13/14 left
Now just usine bloom as plant finishing times are all over the place.
Video on utube https://youtu.be/EJ6mmyzzvIc
6th day 2 x 10 litres with 70 m bloom in each changing nutes was the right call back up too 20 litres+ overnight
last day 2 x 10 litre top ups 70 ml bloom
buds are starting to stack now
1st day of week 9
top up 2 x 10 litres with 70ml bloom in each
buds are forming nicely now 3 weeks to the earliest to finish around 8 for the last of them
2nd day
2 x 10 litres with 70 ml bloom top up
having to tie heads down to stop them getting burnt 30 cm from light is a little too close.
day 3
1 x 10 litre top up nutrient change tomorrow
day 4
nutrient change
checking the run off against a white surface is still showing nutrient being used
day 5 1 x 10 litre top up with 70ml bloom
day 6 1 x 10 litre 70 ml bloom top up
nutrient use slowing a bit now.
last day of this week
2 x 10 litres 60ml nutrient
changed to 60ml top ups now
had two days of 1 x 10 litre top up showing a slow down in uptake
my belief is plants near the end have exhausted waste from there system
If you were using a E.C meter you would see a sharp rise in E.C.
those plants have finished there cleaning.
Now there back to 20 litre overnite usage
1st day
2 x 10 litres with 60 ml bloom in each
nutrient uptake has increased a little maybe 2 litres more over nite.
day2
1 x 10 litre 60 ml bloom top up
looking for second flush trichomes cannot see any yet
doing nutrient change tomorrow
yes its early but plants are flushing/cleaning themselves now.
From previous grows using an EC meter at this time you would see the E.C rise up quite dramatically
to offset this i drop top ups to 60 ml
Because my nute tank is small change more frequently at this time
day3
nutrient change shows still being used run off has little left in it.
day 4 2 x 10 litres with 60ml bloom in each.
Been looking for second flush trichomes there may be one or two on that timescale they should start showing tomorrow IF 11 weeks is there finish.
day5 2 x 10 litres 60ml bloom in each.
no sign of second flush, first plants off will be going over 11 weeks now
day 6 nute change tomorrow, just showing a little less used maybe 2 ltrs
1x 10 litre top up 60 ml nutrient
no second flush trichomes yet.
last day of this week
first signs of second flush trichomes this morning 1 st plant to harvest 10 days away.
Note to self.
when you see a two litre drop in nutrient usage. DONT BE BLOODY LAZY change the nutrients.
last nights usage dropped to about 14 litres, not significant in itself. Though it will take the plants probably 48 hours to get back up to 20 litres, would mean slight drop in bud production as the plants drink was a bit to strong, not in nutrients more waste matter the plants are expunging.
Day1
2 x 10 litres top up 60 ml bloom in each
day 2
2 x 10 litre top up 60 ml bloom in each
3rd day 1 x 10 litre top up 60 ml bloom
4th day change nutrient
day 5
1 x 10 litres 60 ml bloom
nutrient changes are more often because of plants exhausting themselves at different times
running a lower tank level to allow for less waste
day 6
1 x 10 litre 60 ml bloom
looking around the plants there are a few coming close will be harvesting some next week
2 x 10 litre with 60 ml bloom in each
Thats it 11 weeks are up harvest starts next week giving a few more days (germination time) then there will be a couple ready to harvest
day 1 of week 12 this is harvest and flowering for the next couple of weeks or so
2 x 10 litres with 60ml bloom top up today
day 2
2 x 10 litres with 60ml bloom in each top up
Looking for a plant to harvest seeing the second flush trichomes appearing on that plant have to wait a while yet
day 3
nutrient change
filling up @ 6 ml per litre as we are coming towards the end.
nutrient was left in water you can see colour when tipping onto a white surface reason for dropping to 6 ml per ltr
day 4
1 x 10 litre 60 ml bloom top up
nutrient use has dropped a bit to around 15 litres signifying some plants coming to the end
now's a case of finding there location on the system
play like a miner
lay on my back slide under system and cut the plant from the bottom come out release top ties and slide her out from underneath, normally it would be start on end finish tother because there finishing times are different its a case of sorting out each one.
day 5
2 x 10 litres with 60 ml bloom in each
1st plant of harvest today 39 to go
Day 6 no harvest today though constantly looking
2 x 10 litres 60 ml bloom in each top up
Last day of this week
2 x 10 litres top up. 60ml bloom in each
Plant harvested was probably a week or so early,
One for you breeding guys
using feminised seeds i always get two distinctly different plants
different shape smell and taste
Now with an autoflower as well
i suspect two different plants coming from the same seed
throw back in genetics.
Either way handy if you get bored with one.
I'm a pollen chunker who know things about breeding ( I am doing some personal crosses ) .
So each time you are growing the same strain you get 2 phenotyoes , it can happens when the palnt has not been stabilised enough , for example my pineaple express were all the same , my critical kush from barney's looks like every seeds is growing the same phenotype , but when I grew some amnesia I had many shapes , smells , and style o buds depending on each plants. So you can end up with similar plants if the strain is stable or differents style of plants if the strain is not.
New growers and old growers can tell the same thing , sisters have genes in common but are not sharing the same genetic code or they would be twins , as long as they are not twins they are not similar , and are actually NOT THE EXACT SAME GENETIC , it's the exact same cross but not the exact same genes or you would not have any PHENOTYPES you would only have a TYPE which would have been the same for every plants from a same strain but it's not like that.
The only way to have a stable genetic is to bring it to the F7 but at that generation ( the 7th generations ) you ca have plants that are 99% the same due to multiples crosses to keep a specific trait . Nowadays most of the strains are F1 or F3 , some are S1 which means self polinated and even with a self pollinated plant you are not sure to have a copy from your original plant but something close to.
That said it's normal to see differents shape , siwe and smell on 2 plants from a same strain , the best exemple is the Cheese which is just a skunk phenotype ( is a cheese sharing the same exact genetics as the skunk ? NO )
With autos the plants are sharing the same ancestors ( a photo and an auto ) , but mostly after 3 generation which is enough to get something stable but not enough to get something super similar from a plant to another like a inbreed line ( more than F7 ) or a F7 stabilised strain.
So to say it the simple way , you'll always have differents phenotypes even with stabilised strains , that said many companies are talling you how many phenotypes you can expect to find and which one is the one to hunt for
Day 1
Top up 1 x 10 lire with 60 ml bloom
nutrient change tomorrow.
nothing near harvest yet
Day 2
nutrient changed refilled @ 60 ml per 10 litres
top ups will be 50 ml now
day 3
1 x 10 litre top up 50ml bloom
day 4
2 x 10 litres with 50 ml bloom in each top up
Still no signs of trichomes turning
used maybe 12/4 litres
nutrient use has dropped a little bit must be getting near to harvesting some soon
day 5
2 x 10 litre top ups with 50ml bloom in each probably used around 17 litres
day 6
2 x 10 litres 50 ml bloom in each used around 16 litres
last day of this week 1 x 10 litre 50 ml bloom
day 1
2 x 10 litre top up with 25 ml in each
no harvest today
day2 1 x 10 litre top up 25ml bloom
day 3 2 x 10 litres 25 ml bloom in each
Day 4 1 x 10 litre with 25 ml bloom
thats it 10 itres of bloom nutrient used on this grow now on water from the tap till finished
had to stop the harvest my house stinks give it some time before chopping the rest.
Day 5 just water now nutrient finished
1 x 10 litres council pop from the tap
day6 1 x 10 litre water from tap
few more days then will harvest some more
last day of this week 1 x 10 litre water top up
Day 1
1 x 10 litre water from tap
Day 2
2 x 10 litres water
still waiting on trichomes turning
Day 3
1 x 10 litre top up water from tap
Believe i can see some trichome colour change
Day 4
1 x 10 litre water top up
Harvest re started 3 plants today 21 plants to go
Day 5
1 x 10 litre top up
3 plants today some are still a little early good for a sparkling high
day 6
1 x 10 litre top up water
3 plants today found one that got smothered 14 plants to go
last day of this week
1 x 10 litres water top up
Day 1
1 x 10 litre water top up
harvested the mutant and two others 158 and 255 grams forgot to photo, bit insignificant as they were at the edge away from the light
day 2
no top up today
3 plants went for the chop
day 4 decided to pull the rest down plus having a BP attack so cant be arsed to do anymore though pictured a couple of large ladies
day5 its all down and drying totals in a week
Harrythehat
