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LED/135W
HLG R-Type
LED/135W
HLG R-Type
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 4-5
Defoliation
weeks 4-5
Soil
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 3
Vegetation
8.89
cm
inch
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
10+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Nature's Living Soil
13.021 ml/l
Homegrown Bokashi - Foundation Blend
2.604 ml/l
Homegrown Bokashi - Crab
2 ml/l
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BladeCutter BladeCutter
4 years ago
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WEEK 3: TIME FOR SOME BOKASHI LOVE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DAY 14: TOP DRESSING AND FIRST BIG WATERING * The plant is doing well. It grew about a half-inch in two days. * I've been watering at 100 ML every day or every other day. * This plant is weaker than the other Double Grape in the garden. While they sprouted together and share the same birthday, this plant is about 0.5 inches shorter and just looks a bit better. * Earlier I was concerned about leaf-curl. But the plant seems to have grown out of it. I don't see any immediate problems that need to be addressed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ADDING HOMEGROWN BOKASHI BLENDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * During setup I layered the medium with five layers of various Homegown Bokashi Blends. (https://www.homegrownbokashi.com/) * At the start of Week 3 I top-dressed with 2 TBS each of Foundation and Kelp Blend (3.2.1) and Crab & Kelp Blend (4.3.2). Each three-gallon pot received a total of 4 TBS of dressing. * After spreading the blends on top of the medium I mixed them in with the top inch or so of soil. I then watered it in well with 500 ML of tap water pH'd to ~6.4 and including 1 ML of molasses to kick off the microbes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ DAY 16: LIGHT UP ~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Turned up the light slightly. There's no dial or indicator, so I just turned the screw the slightest amount. * Misted the plant for the first time. I don't generally mist, but she looked like she needed it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DAY 17: N TOXICITY? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Dry down to about two inches. * Watered with 200 ml of tap water pH'd to ~6.4. * The plant is dark green and the new growth is clawing. These are signs of N toxicity. Too much nitrogen. * Not sure how to address in an organic grow. I am only adding water and I don't water to runoff. I'll just watch it for a few days. * It grew 1/2 inch in the last three days, but her companion added a full inch. So, not the fastest growing sample. * VPD target is 0.8-1.2 kPa for late veg/early flower growth. Current VPD: 0.9 kPa ######################################################################################## VAPOR PRESSURE DEFICIT DISCUSSION ==> For this discussion, I am using the following VPD target values. (Found in Eddie Bonet's VPD calculation spreadsheet.) 0 - 0.4 kPa Danger - Can't Transpirate - Mineral deficiencies, Guttation, Disease, Soft Growth. 0.4 - 0.8 kPa Low Transpiration (Propagation / Early Vegetative Growth) 0.8 - 1.2 kPa Healthy Transpiration (Late Veg / Early Flower) 1.2 - 1.6 kPa High Transpiration (Mid / Late Flower) 1.6 or > kPa Danger - Transpire Too Fast - Wilting, Leaf Roll, Stunted Plants, Leathery/Crispy Leaves. Maintaining the right Vapor Pressure Deficit (VPD) was somewhat a challenge during the seedling/early vegetative stage. My target range was 0.4-0.8 kPa. This required turning up the humidifier almost all the way. I also had to add water twice a day to a three-liter tank just to avoid running out of mist. As I move into the veg and early bloom stage. It's interesting to see how the variables (air temp, leaf temp and humidity) interact. They are particularly sensitive when the values are high as during early growth. Now I've reached a point where the variable are much less sensitive. The temperature can go from day temps of 80F down to over-night temps of 72F. The humidity gets higher as the temp declines, but it tends to stay in a healthy growth space and not climb so high as to stop all transpiration. In an attempt to raise the average VPD by a small amount I have turned down my humidifier for the second time in as many days. I'm hoping by watching the VPD multiple times a day I can maximize the growth of my plants. This is the first time that I have tracked VPD. ######################################################################################## DAY 19: ADDING DYNA-GRO PRO-TEKT TO WATER * Watered with 300 ml of tap water, 0.25-0.5 tsp/gallon of Dyna-Grow Pro-TeKt pH'd to ~6.4 * The Pro-TeKt is a strength boosting additive, I hope it helps address the N-toxicity. I've order 200x Aloe Vera Powder Flakes from Build-a-Soil. This was recommended by Homegrown Bokashi as a way of helping the Nitrogen problem. * I am concerned about this statement on the Pro-TeKt product page: "Because a high pH is required to keep Pro-TeKt®️ in solution, the concentrate cannot be mixed with any acidic fertilizer. Therefore, apply Pro-TeKt®️ separately when using a single head injector." (http://dyna-gro.com/product/pro-tekt-0-0-3/) * After giving the plant a couple of days to adjust, I turned up the light slightly today. DAY 20: NOTHING SPECIAL * Didn't do anything today, just took a couple of pictures. I am learning how to improve my pictures. This time I forced the flash and you can see the structure of the plant better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The opening of week 4 will be here soon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Grow Questions
BladeCutter
BladeCutterstarted grow question 4 years ago
The leaves at the top of the plant seem to be curling up. My first guess is that there is too much light. I recently moved my light down to 12 inches above the canopy. The PPFD should still be under 1,000, but I don't know what else could be causing it. Please help. 🙏
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 4 years ago
it's mostly down to the temperature i suppose, actually the relationship between the temperature and the humidity regulates the stomatas on the leafs, if the VPD is not where it should be the stomatas can open or contract in a way that bends the whole leafs. Lots of new words, basically stomatas are the leaf pores, VPD is vapor pressure deficit. Hope this helps ! 🚀
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 10
hey there, hope i answered your question ! learn more about VPD here : https://pulsegrow.com/blogs/learn/vpd this will help you level up . Anything else you need , just let me know 👊
240sxOG
240sxOGweek 2
I think it’s the watering part even tho your not overwatering you’re still watering it every day so that’s overwatering let it dry it needs an oxygen break before it gets watered again let it decide when it wants water not you ..
BladeCutter
BladeCutter
@240sxOG, I agree. I'd rather water every other day. This time I have a very light soil mix and will water in slightly greater amounts, but try to keep it to every other day.
Fruitgrower
Fruitgrowerweek 10
Also adding coco to the soil is not a bad idea. It does improve drainage, coco doesn't hold onto water very long. 👍🌱Looking like lovely buds there. And your leaves are fine for this stage of growth, it is normal for them to do this when ripening
BladeCutter
BladeCutter
@Fruitgrower, thanks for the reply. I harvested both plants in the garden earlier this week. I'll have a full harvest report soon, but I'm hoping for about 25 g per plant dried. That would be about 14% more fruit from these plants than my previous organic garden. Always learning.
PrairieFrostGrow
PrairieFrostGrowweek 12
Nice buds on this girl as well!! Should be nice and sticky in the grinder:) 11 to 12 weeks is what I had with Mephisto Skywalker and my Sweet n Sour looks like she will be in the 11 week range as well. Enjoy the smoke Boss!!!!!
BladeCutter
BladeCutter
@PrairieFrostGrow, I harvested my last Double Grape about a week earlier and I think that was too early. This one I let it run until the plant was full of fall colors. It is drying right now, but should be able to measure dry weight tomorrow. I'm hoping for over 28 grams/plant. I may be a bit short of that.
Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosweek 9
Nice looking buds
BladeCutter
BladeCutter
@Mr_Weeds_Autos, thanks for the kind words. If you have comments or questions, feel free. I like to chat. After a long time as a small hydro/photo grower (strickly personal use and then sometimes short 😕) I've moved to organic and autos. What a change. I used to spend all my time trying to control the growth, height in particular. Now it's all about getting them as big as I can. Maybe I should really follow Mephisto's advice and basically grow them as SOG! (From their 2018 Strain Guide: Best Method for overall high yield - 9 per 1,2m x 1,2m sq in 15 Liter pots) I probably should crowd four into my 18"x18" (~0.4 m sq)!