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Anyone noticed that plant #2 is missing a pair of leaves? ๐ 2nd node has only 1 big fan leaf on the left side, right side has 3 leaves. Should I worry at all about this, or is it something uniquely random?
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First grow - 2x RQS Northern Lights Auto
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Let's start week 3! Lady #1 on the right, #2 on the left.
05-05-2020 (D16)
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Let's start week 3! Lady #1 on the right, #2 on the left.
05-05-2020 (D16)
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Forgot to take photos yesterday, sadly.
So, recap from last week: lady #1 slow and steady, but aging well, already showing growth of 3rd node; lady #2 growing huuuuuuuge, so much growth with almost no stretch, she's in awesome shape!
This week we switch her nutes to veg schedule (+FloraGro -FloraBloom), so we can get them big for starting LST and prepare for flower transition. I'M HYPED
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##### DAY 16 #####
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We start seeing that internodal growth, lots of tiny leaves growing and ready to burst. It would be veeeeery good if we could start LSTing them right now, but I don't think that their size can handle it, at least for now. My expectation is that by day 18 or 19 I can start LST on lady #2, that has a better vertical structure. I don't know how I would approach LST on lady #1, as she's very short.
Watered them today, good veg nutrients (see on nutrients section) and I'll keep this feeding for the whole week, at least until she starts showing her flower pistils.
One thing that I changed today is that I gave them water 45min before lights going on, let's see if this works... What's the best time of the day to feed them?
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##### DAY 17 #####
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Lady #2 definitely bigger than Lady #1. No watering today, they seem to be reacting well to nutrient dosage, so I'll increase a little bit more on next watering. Waiting a couple more days until Lady #2 is tall enough to start LST.
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### DAYS 18~20 ###
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Okay, didn't get much time for pictures and updates here, but lots of things happened on those last days. Saw some 1~2 bugs flying/crawling around the girls, so I decided to let the coco dry a little bit more than usual, and stronger wind blowing on medium, it seems to be working. Lady #2 had her first LST session, it all went pretty well, I think ๐
Only bending the main branch so they start evening out smoothly
Lady #1 woke up and started growing again, on her last 2 days she bulked up a lot! A little bit of height and some branches stretching, so good! I don't know if I'll do any LST on Lady #1 during this week, as she's so short and bushy, so I don't know if I should risk this.
Finally got their feeding schedule where I want (updated feeding charts above). Almost the end of week 3 and they didn't show any sign of pre-flower (I have to look after white hairs at bud sites, right???), so I have some more time on building their size and structure before flowering starts.
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##### DAY 21 #####
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End of week 3 and I couldn't be happier, those ladies are growing faaaaast! Only 2 days gap and you can tell how Lady #1 is growing strong, they're starting to smell a little bit and the pot is drying a little quicker. Hope that we have more vegetative growth and only see signs of of pre-flowering on start of week 5.
Feeding will continue to be on this 2-3-1 ratio until we see her pistils. I'll try to adjust LST on Lady #2 every day. Excited to start LST on Lady #1 too, I'm just waiting her to get a little more height so we bend her easier.
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Grow Questions
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
I don't have EC/PPM meters, but I know that I have hard tap water, according to my city water distribution company. Do I need to suplement CalMag on my feedings? How much should I use if I don't have PPM meters here? What are the risks of using or not using CalMag in this case?
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UmFzbXVzanswered grow question 5 years ago
Plants grown under LED lighting require more Calcium and Magnesium generally, even with hard water.
That said, I have grown several plants fully under Quantum Boards without CalMag supplements, so it's not a complete nessecity.
I use 1ml/L in vegetation and 2ml/L in flower.
Your girls will spend about a week indicating that they need CalMag before doing anything crazy, so learn to listen to the living plants -- and keep a cannabis deficiency chart on hand for reference :) If left unchecked, it can lead to stunted growth and diminished yields.
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
When should I start feeding nutrients to my plants? They are currently at days 3 and 4, only with water (pH 6.0)
Should I start slower or can I go straight to GHE's feeding schedules?
What is the mixing order of nutrients? I'm using GHE Tripack Flora Series (Gro, Bloom and Micro)
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Feeding. Schedule
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OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
You can start now as coco is nuts free so you have to bring them. Start with a low dosage , I am starting with 1ec
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
Plant with 4~5 days old, kind of curly and tilted, plus a yellow spot in the middle of the leaf, is this normal or are we looking at a problem?
Info: coco+perlite (80/20), 150W Led QB, 15L fabric pots, feeding her only with plain water at pH 6, 70~80cm light distance, any tips?
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Plant. Twisted
Plant. Wilting
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DrBinocanswered grow question 5 years ago
Seems fine so far, the real leafs will continue to open up and will look like single blade "normal" leafs. The spot is on the seed leafs and shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't seem to be stretching which is good, take a picture everyday and you will see your progress - first grow is stressful. Good luck!
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
How tall should seedlings be to be considered healthy and good? One of my plants (#1) did not stretch much during first week and I'm afraid this could impact on her growth on veg stage.
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Plant. Too short
Plant. Spaces between nodes
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souljasamanswered grow question 5 years ago
The height of the plant itself isn't an indicator of how well a plant is doing. Different strains and even different plants of the same strain will have different spacing between the nodes where branches form. Some have bigger spacing resulting in a taller plant and some have shorter spacing making them shorter overall.
To judge how healthy a plant this small is in comparison to another plant you are growing to count the nodes and observe overall growth. Are the leaves a good size? If its a bit later in the grow when the plants are bigger, do the leaves have more than 3 fingers? Sometimes the number of fingers is purely genetics but if you know that plant has been putting out 5-10 fingered leaves and then all of a sudden it starts throwing 1-3 fingered leaves it can be a sign of stress.
So with that in mind, both plants look to be at a similar level of growth and size besides the minor height difference. They both seem to have 2 nodes of true leaves formed and the smaller one looks to be working on its 3rd node while the other one its kinda hard to tell if it is. So all in all, they are both doing well and there's nothing to worry about so far.
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
Just before lights going on again, the temperature was at 21.4 Celsius, but humidity was at 76%!!! During day temps are 26 Celsius and 58~64% humidity. What is the optimal day-night temp/rh difference and how could I achieve that? Also, what are the risks with my current numbers?
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Tastecraftanswered grow question 5 years ago
Your RH will fluctuate with temperature even without adding water to the atmosphere. Warmer air is able to hold more moisture than cold air; therefore when your temps drop at night the humidity goes up. 76% is definitely on the high side but not a problem yet for your plants while theyโre still young. I recommend you get a exhaust fan and either run it constantly, on a timer, or on a humidity controller set to keep things in the 45-60% range. 50% or less during flower.
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
There are some white spots at the base of my stem, and I noticed that lady #1 haves some red/purple stems. 5min into Google and I'm already panicking here. Things that I read that made me worry: Scales, Fusarium, root rot and other fungi life. Should I continue freaking out? ๐ถ
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Other. Bugs
Other. Mold
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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RealMedicineanswered grow question 5 years ago
Thats just the plant wanting to create more roots. If you wanted to add more soil they would grow roots.
whoawhoastarted grow question 5 years ago
Found some orange/brown marks on my plant. I'm new to this, so I don't know how to diagnose those problems properly, anyone could help? ๐ Didn't notice those marks on new growth though.
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Leaves. Twisted
Leaves. Other
Feeding. Deficiences
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ijustdontgiveafanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hi there, i'd go more into the direction of calicum when it comes to the rusty spots. The leaves look pretty dark green, so i hope that you're not feeding it a bit too much (or were at a point).
Do you use tap-water and if so, do you happen to know if it's soft or hard? Do you add any calmag?
I honestly don't really like the liquid PH meters, as they're not very exact. Simple to use and maintain, yes, but not very exact.
I really would suggest to invest in a decent PH meter as well as an EC meter like the ones from bluelabs (the pens are great). Yes, it is an investment, but only then you know how much you feed your ladies and if it can be absorbed properly. Especially since your grow mentions "soilless" it's important to get the values right, to keep the plants healthy and happy until the end.
happy growing!
whoawhoastarted grow question 4 years ago
Week 5, NL Auto, Brown spots and some red stems. Coco coir + Pelite (70%/30%), RH 60%, temps 22~26 Celsius, watering every 1~2 days 2.5L. GHE Flora Series, 1ml/L of each bottle (Micro, Grow, Bloom) and 1ml/L of Cal-Mag. EC 1.3~1.4, pH 5.7~5.9, watering until 10~20% runoff.
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Plant. Too short
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
Feeding. Deficiences
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AmnZhzanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there, to me it seems like the start of a cal mag deficiency. Before adding anything first check your ph range. May be it is there but its not accessible, which will lead to more problems. So first of all check your ph and then if it is within the proper range then add cal mag. Boron deficiency or zinc or any other micro element deficiency is most of the time accompanied by more serious problems which would be seen. If ph range is within the proper range and cal mag is the issue, those leaves wont bounce back but the spots will stop.
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whoawhoacommentedweek 35 years ago
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whoawhoacommentedweek 15 years ago
Plant #2 started showing first pair of new leaves, but they are curly and with a single yellow spot. I'm guessing too much light, so I increased light height by 5~10cm, just to see if she's gonna feel better tomorrow. Do you think this may be caused by lack of nutrients? I've only given them water at pH 6, should I start with nutes?
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whoawhoacommented5 years ago
@GreenBeanGrowMachine, I couldn't find anything to work as a dome for them, but nonetheless they're thriving right now!!! They probably very much liked their first nutrient feed, lighting adjustment must have helped too
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GreenBeanGrowMachinecommented5 years ago
@whoawhoa, i got the same light as you have , 60 cm should be fine . I alwayse place a little Dome over Them so they can adjust to the light and Stay in a higher humidity range. Spray it a couple Times a Day and after 3-5 days she Will het used to the light.
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NattyMedscommented5 years ago
@whoawhoa, as long as the soil has no nutrients in it a 1/4 strength of nutrients should be just enough and fine!๐ Some of the best supplements at this stage are rooting hormones and root beneficial fungi like mycorrhiza. Remember your goal at this stage is to grow big healthy roots and everything above will be at its "healthiest" as well ๐
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GreenBeanGrowMachinecommentedweek 15 years ago
Nice how you put the photo comparison ! Have a good grow !
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whoawhoacommented5 years ago
I tried to make some timelapse with my mobile, but no success, wish I had a gopro for this
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whoawhoacommented5 years ago
@GreenBeanGrowMachine, thanks man! Lots to improve on growing, but lots to improve on taking pictures too :D
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 25 years ago
hey there, hope i answered your question! Optimal temperature / humidity is determined by VPD , learn more about that here : https://pulsegrow.com/blogs/learn/vpd , anything else you need just drop me a message ๐
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whoawhoacommentedweek 35 years ago
Anyone noticed that plant #2 is missing a pair of leaves? ๐ 2nd node has only 1 big fan leaf on the left side, right side has 3 leaves. Should I worry at all about this, or is it something uniquely random?
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Garreweedlovercommented5 years ago
@whoawhoa, es genetica , igual me ah pasado , tuve una planta que salio doble como si hubiese tenido poda apical , pero no fue asi
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whoawhoacommentedweek 54 years ago
Hi, guys, any suggestions on how to handle those nutrient issues on Lady #1? I still couldn't recognize what is the problem with her, there are brown/bronze patches on some leaves, lowered the pH and increased P and K, but no success. My tap water is around 160ppm and I'm also giving them 1~1.25ml/L of Cal-Mag, should I give them less cal-mag? I don't understand fully the relation between Ca, Mg, P and K, if anyone could point me some good articles, it would be wonderful
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whoawhoacommentedweek 15 years ago
Also updated all previous photos to normalize contrast and hue balance, colors should feel more natural now :)
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souljasamcommentedweek 15 years ago
Hey saw you mention working on a watering schedule and that you are growing in coco. With coco, you want to keep the media wet and not let it dry out for the best results and most growth. I water my coco daily from seed and never experience overwatering. Also, make sure you feed every watering.
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souljasamcommented5 years ago
@whoawhoa, its pretty dry where i love except in the summer so humidity isn't usually an issue for me. idk that the wet pots would raise the humidity to matter all that much.
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whoawhoacommented5 years ago
@souljasam, wow, nice! you must have a better environment than mine, maybe. I don't have much air circulation here and the house tends to have a high humidity (55%~75%), so when using a 15L pot and watering everyday until runoff, I'm afraid I could have some type of mould or other fungus that could end up slowing the growth. Anyway, I think that on this week, maybe on week 3, I'll have to water everyday as they'll be hungrier too ๐
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souljasamcommented5 years ago
@whoawhoa, yup water til run off every time.
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