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Week 1. Vegetation
5y ago
5.08 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6.5
No Smell
45 %
19 °C
19 L
76.2 cm
Jonny_Phresh ----First off my light is not available on the list , its a Philips Master Green Power Elite Agro 315w LEC---- 4th grow overall, but first auto flower try. So I feel like a newbie all over again. Sorta fought conditions all week. Put my tent into a new room and had troubles stabilizing temps and humidity for the first few days. Had temps up the 90s a few times =(. Its been good the last few though. 77 in day and 67 at night. Humidity is still a little low now in the forties, but it will have to do for this grow for now haha. Put my seeds in paper towel on the 19th. The all cracked on the 22nd and i put 2 in the dirt the 23rd and the next 2 on the 24th. The pics are from the 28th. The one looks great to me, the other 2 look Ok, and the smallest runt doesnt look good to me at all. Given the poor starting conditions hopefully things will improve from here. Im a little nervous about how small they are but well wait it out for a bit yet. Just watering plain water phd to 6.5 from a spray bottle for now. Might have over watered the runt a bit. Not running my intake yet to keep humidity up a bit. Jut have fans blowing in and out. Any input will gladly be taken as like I said above, I feel like a newb with the autos. Let me know what you guys think thanks.
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshstarted grow question 5y ago
I will take any and all input. Love to learn so lay it on me and be brutally honest.
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5y ago
the only reason you cant see symptoms yet is they're so young, but the light should be like way closer , probably 20 inches or less not 30, otherwise these young ladies will end up stretching then falling over. Just a hheads up , i remember when i figured it out and it just seemed way too close but such is the truth . Hope this helps ! 🚀
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OGgrows
OGgrowsanswered grow question 5y ago
Hi @Jonny_Phresh they seem to me to be well and healthy. Do not overfill the substrate. good luck mate 👍
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Ign33l
Ign33lanswered grow question 5y ago
They look good. What can help is some magnesium and calcium supplements 💪 and root stimulator during the first 2 weeks of veg.
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Week 2. Vegetation
5y ago
7.62 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6.5
No Smell
50 %
19 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.15 mll
Fish-Mix - BioBizz
Fish-Mix 0.15 mll
Jonny_Phresh Temps and humidity much more stable this week. Steady at 75-77 and 66-68 at night. Humidity around 50%. Gave them there 1st watering from the can(not just spray bottle). Put 15 L through them. The soil was very dry as I was just spraying and I over watered the runt one so I was drying them out a bit anyways. I gave a very diluted feed of biobizz. 1.5ml of fishmix and grow in 15L, so thats VERY diluted hahah. Next water ill bump it up a bit and the next one bump it up again. The runt looks terrible but has started to grow since the watering, but its was so small it got a little of the water on it and the leaves have browned a bit, but that could also be from over watered and stunted a week. I have no hope of getting any yield off of it but I will learn from it. The other 3 look OK to me. But still being a newb to autos they seem to be growing so slow to me compared to photos. But from what I read they will start to grow fast next week. Lets hope =) Ill start LST the good 3 later this week if they get a little taller. I slowly dropped the lights a few inches all week to get it at 20 inches. As always any and all comments are appreciated . Thanks and be honest. Would rather learn than have my feeling saved haha.
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Week 3. Vegetation
5y ago
12.7 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6.5
No Smell
50 %
19 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.25 mll
Fish-Mix - BioBizz
Fish-Mix 0.25 mll
Jonny_Phresh Week went OK. Growth still seems somewhat slow to me. I wonder if my 315 LEC is as good for autos as they are for photos. #1 and #4 look all good to me. #3 growth has slowed a little and has started to fade a bit the last few days. Im not sure why. The runt from the get go #2 not only has slow growth but looks like shit hahah. Hopefully this week (day 17 today) grotwh will start to speed up.
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshstarted grow question 5y ago
Hey guys. Id like your opinion on the 315w LEC for autos. Ive had great results with my phillips LEC with fem photos. ( 1/2 to 3/4 pound of 4 plants in 4x4 ) Just wondering if there growing slow from the LECs as most people are using LEDS with autos. What do you guys think.
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Belgiums_basement_budz
Belgiums_basement_budzanswered grow question 5y ago
I love the 315w lec..check my diary out..I’m growing some amnesia auto’s under it and they seem to love it I bought my dimlux a few weeks back and I’m so pleased by it I’m switching completely..bye bye led and hps 😂 I’m especially pleased by the dimlux 315w because you can build up the power output while your plants are growing I start @190w and increase the output to 315w while my plants are growing till they’re flipped to flower then I put it in overdrive @380w It still uses 20w less then my hps but the yield should be better
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 5y ago
or you go away from cars and get normal strains Photoperiod :-) I much prefer to let my plant grow as I want, and also to let it flower as I want, not as the plant wants in cars itself 🙈. in addition there is less genetic tampering with the better 😍👍
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 5y ago
don't worry too much 🙏🏻 their plants look good 🌱
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Week 4. Vegetation
5y ago
17.78 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.7
No Smell
40 %
18 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.5 mll
Fish-Mix - BioBizz
Fish-Mix 0.33 mll
Jonny_Phresh Very busy week. Plants got put on the back burner sort of this week. They did not seem to want to dry out for like 7 days for some reason. I checked everyday and they still had some dampness in the soil a few inches deep. So I didnt water for 7 days and I dont think the plants liked it. In my previous 4 grows(all photos) I never went more then 3 days without watering. Every 2-3 days. So from now on they getting watered after the 3rd day no matter what. The plants looked droopy and a little yellow all week. Thats from under watering and lack of N in my opinion. I was so scared to give to many nutrients for the autos, so I think they wernt getting enough N. They seemed to perk up a few days after watering with a little more biobizz grow. Still only half dose though. What do you guys think from the pics? Ill be putting the next week on tomorrow since i was behind with this week haha. Thanks
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Week 5. Flowering
5y ago
20.32 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.7
No Smell
40 %
18 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.5 mll
Fish-Mix - BioBizz
Fish-Mix 0.33 mll
Jonny_Phresh Day 31. Another busy week so they didnt get much love. I did give them some more LST to get some more tops. But it seems like more of the same to me. There growing faster now, but still not fast enough in my opinion. What do you think from the pics week to week. And there also still yellowing and slightly droopy most of the time, and they just dont seem to be wanting water enough. Ive been giving them 15L for the 4 plants for each watering. That only gives me a little run off. And finally Im starting to notice some small rusty spots so Im going to add some cal-mag+ next watering. Im starting to think im going to put in some photo seeds in about 2 weeks if I dont start to see some improvement soon. I dont expect much off a yeild here but I want to learn what I can from these autos. Thanks for any input.
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Week 6. Flowering
5y ago
22.86 cm
20 hrs
23 °C
6.7
Weak
40 %
18 °C
19 L
38.1 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.33 mll
Bio-Bloom - BioBizz
Bio-Bloom 0.67 mll
Top-Max - BioBizz
Top-Max 0.5 mll
Jonny_Phresh Day 38. No big changes this week. Adding more bloom nuts now. They seem to be liking them. I should have started giving them the bloom and topmax 1 week earlier. I also added a small amount of cal mag as they were getting the odd spots on them. The new growth seems a better shade of green, but still some fading green for some reason.
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshstarted grow question 5y ago
Canna or Foxfarm nutrient line? Ive been a Biobizz guy for a while now but its very hard to get in Canada now. So im going to switch to either Canna or Foxfarm. Ill be growing indoors and in soil. Id love your guys opinion, let me know thanks.
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Greendawg
Greendawganswered grow question 4y ago
Use beastie bloomz for flower. I had zero luck with fox farm. Your plants look fine
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshanswered grow question 5y ago
I think there both great products. Ive also heard great things about remo. I like the fact I can easily get the whole kits with canna and remo. My local shop only has 1 part of the fox farms and it seems harder and more expensive to find the whole kits online for canada. Im sure there all good if your environment setup it right.😀
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenanswered grow question 5y ago
I like foxfarm, they've been my easy access go to since day 1. They're easy to mix, usually wind up my ph in the perfect zone without adding in extra ph liquids. And they have a product for everything, basic npks/extras/soil/bugs etc and I've heard it can be good to stay with one line because they have their ratios measured to complete their other products. Versus using a variety of different brands you might pop up with an excess of some nutrients because they weren't made to go together. Good luck with the choosing process. ✌️
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshstarted grow question 5y ago
My next grow Id like to make my soil a little better then just pro-mix with some earthworm castings i used last time. So i was thinking pro-mix to start, perlite, earthworm castings, bat gauno, blood meal, bone meal, and some manure. What do you guys think? Love any input thanks.
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Fusionanswered grow question 5y ago
Check my open grow question I have created a good live soil mix recipe. Couple tweaks but it's a good base. Needs min. 60 days to break down. But reuse and only get better with time.
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Nor_Cal_Kannabliss
Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 5y ago
Throw in some Damascus earth to help control soil pH and your golden!
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Fruitgrower
Fruitgroweranswered grow question 5y ago
Sounds great, i do the same only I haven't got earthworm casings in it.
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Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshstarted grow question 5y ago
Who has had good luck/experience with the Remo nutrient line? Going to switch it up from the Biobizz line up for the next grow. Thanks for any info.
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GMSgrowsanswered grow question 5y ago
Pretty much all the watered down nutes are the same, same elements, npk , mix this mix that. I switched to a much more effective one part fert. Been through many products but this one truly gives great results in veg. Dont know about the one part bloom yet. Going to run it for the first time in a day or two. Floranova grow and floranova bloom, I also run massive bloom formulation with my flower nutes. That is the best bud enhancer I have ever tried. Will increase your final weight by 30% flora nova will give you the biggest bang for your buck. Last 5mtimes as long as the watered down shit. Stay away from ph perfect crap, only time i ever had problems due to ferts. Cheers
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Week 7. Flowering
5y ago
30.48 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.6
Normal
40 %
18 °C
19 L
35.56 cm
Nutrients 4
Bio-Grow - BioBizz
Bio-Grow 0.33 mll
Bio-Bloom - BioBizz
Bio-Bloom 1 mll
Top-Max - BioBizz
Top-Max 1 mll
Jonny_Phresh Same old same old. not gaining much height but the buds are thickening up and gaining some stank and trichomes. Just wish vegging would have gone better so those buds were even bigger =)
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Jef79
Jef79commentedweek 35y ago
Hello.. Hope you are well.. Tbh if thats ok i see from ur diary's input u are giving them bio-grow & fish mix.. If ur in soil(not coco) u shudnt really b giving her anything but plain ph'd water until wks2-3..this cud b why ur plants are goin a bit slower than usual.. She will av abuild up of nutes that because she's so young she's not starting to use them yet.. Give them just ph'd water for a few times n c if she progress.. Stay safe n gud luck on ur greens.. 👍🍀
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Jef79commented5y ago
@Jonny_Phresh,-ok cool.. I understand u adding small amount to drop ph..most ppl i know who grow organic use sum organic brand citric acid(lemon juice)..stay safe buddy.. 👍🍀
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Jonny_Phreshcommented5y ago
@Jef79, That could be it but i only gave them 1.5 ml of each in 15 L of water. Biobizz calls for 1ml/L, so I didnt figure 0.15ml/L would bother them to much and help get them going a bit. And 2.5 ml of each in 15L of water for the last 2 waters. But I think I will do water only next time as this is only day 18(or day 21 the first popped out of the dirt) I also like adding some to get the ph lower so i dont have to adjust it it to stay all natural as I cant find organic ph down around here.
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 25y ago
Plants look good👍 Over watering is very easy to do,I speak from experience or lack of it,still learning😏 I have two C.C. autos 21 days old today, for the first two weeks 60ml straight water just around the base of the plant bumped it up to 120ml in a bit of a widening circle around the plants. 0 nutes,0 boosters, just a little foliar spray. Week 3 stopped the foliar spray and started using sensi cal-mag-xtra 1ml/liter. Fed a little bit of molasses Today day 21 first top feeding using Gaia Green 75ml 4-4-4, 25ml 2-8-4 mixed together each plant got 50ml + 1 liter water each Just harvested a Candy Cane😍 about a month ago, I really enjoy the smoke kind of a creeper👍check out my diary, hope this helps a little Stay healthy and Grow Big
northernMike
northernMikecommented5y ago
@Jonny_Phresh,You just have to remember that with autos less is more and to keep it simple👊 Photos are cruising to harvest autos are racing(read that in a mag.) Grow Big!!
Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshcommented5y ago
@northernMike, Awsome man. i will definitely be checking out your journal. I think its funny i have no worries with photos, but with these autos im paranoid about every little thing since there is no recovery time. Well im off to check out your journal. You might get some more questions from me since you grew the same strain. Have a good one.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 15y ago
hey there, hope i answered your question, anything else you need just let me know 🚀
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommented5y ago
@Jonny_Phresh, good luck man keep up the good spirit 🚀
Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshcommented5y ago
@CRiSPrGrow, Ya Ive been dropping them a few inches a day as I was told from the grow shop I bought my light from to leave it at 100%, so I start it at 3 feet and drop a few inches a day till Im down to 20-24 inches. Im at 24 now =). Thanks for the info though.
RussianGrower
RussianGrowercommentedweek 15y ago
Greetings from Russia. Your plants look great! Keep developing like that! If you are interested in observing grass in Russia, subscribe to my diary
Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshcommented5y ago
@RussianGrower, Thanks a lot, lets hope they turnout good =) And ill be checking yours out too.
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 74y ago
Hope all is well👊 Are you putting some beans in the soil ?? Later!!
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 65y ago
👍👍
DanaDKC
DanaDKCcommentedweek 55y ago
Wow are you useing nutes I have the same plants and mine are three times that size in day 38
DanaDKC
DanaDKCcommentedweek 55y ago
Look at my diary you see new pics
DanaDKC
DanaDKCcommentedweek 55y ago
And no worries they should be in flowering at 5 weeks if there autoflowering plants and never top autos they dont have time to recover
northernMike
northernMikecommentedweek 35y ago
Hey, plants look good, they should start to really grow soon. Mine really started to explode around the third week, 25 days or so, just started showing pistils a few days ago😛 topped both plants on day 20 and they both took off. Stay healthy and Grow Big!!
Jonny_Phresh
Jonny_Phreshcommentedweek 15y ago
Mid week update. Havent watered once since i started this journal on April 28. So I know I over watered . This is my 5th grow but first auto. I think starting in the 5G made me feel like I would need to water more at first, I was wrong hahah. Ill have to water when the lights come on tonight though. They are all better looking except for the runt which is just not growing =(. Ill put up pics on the next week update. I feel like a should give some very diluted nutrients tonight, but Ill wait till next week from what Ive read with autos. Thanks
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