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Auto HST test AvT / RQS Diesel Auto

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LED/317W
Light
LED/400W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Diesel Automatic
Royal Queen Seeds
Growing it
Easy
Resistance
Strong
. Fruity undertones to the diesel. It was a bit more sensitive to light than most of (not all) the AvT, but it took the HST like a champ and produced. Only vaping trim while it's drying, but it's an odd mix of up but foggy-minded and forgetful, i'm assuming/hoping from sheer potency XD. Diesel with juicy fruit. edit: oh the bud is really really good after a few days curing. uplifting, brighter colors, functional. a fan.
The Outcome
Week 14
Harvest
What's on the scales?
29.6
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
136.1
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.09
ft²
Grow Room size
0.07
g / watt
328.89
g / m²
29.6
g / plant
11.11
plant / m²
4444.44
watt / m²
Tastes like
Diesel
Fruity
Pine
Feels like
50% Sativa 50% Indica

Positive effects

Happy
Relaxed
Uplifted

Negative effects

Paranoia
Nutrients
been backing off to light schedule bidaily as proper. not enough iron. sick of fooling with calmag. rhizo is at least as good as the GH root stuff, loving it, now using near to half dose on that tho over expense
Potassium silicate is amazing, don't have central air, temps not stable; in coir with the potassium silicate the roots don't shock like they had been. Plants much healthier. Cal mag is cal mag; my tap is 24ppm atm...
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Jaindoh Jaindoh
6 years ago
Day ~95, my weeks are off by one. Pictures came out poorly, apologies. My scale is a tiny pocket scale and i don't have any containers huge and narrow enough for a harvest shot; I figured someone could accuse me of tampering with multiple-container pictures of the scale. Thoughts? Also keep in mind I cut two decent branches and one smaller branch off of this plant to keep it from being so stuffy, mold prone, and keep myself from running out. Ended up able to train the branches down and wasn't needed. Tent is 2x Roleadro 400 (2x200w epileds cob) with eight plants and 8sqft. I divided for my measurement and multiplied by one because it's one plants. This gives me the most accurate diary as far as I can tell .. not trying to hide that I have a good strong cob on it. Dried weight: 29.6.
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Ripper
Ripperweek 7
Such a great strain. Yours looks great
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@Ripper, yeah the smell when i'm pruning is intoxicating. hoping to make the most out of my last auto freebies before perpetual harvest XD
Tazard
Tazardweek 10
I don’t use coco but I’m thinking that the coco stores some nutrients between watering and the “every other water” feeding is like a mini flush. @biggreens420 has spectacular results in coco I would suggest he can help you.
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@Tazard, yeah. I've only done two batches through coco before. Dude I learned from just fed weaker every day using a guide that was basically closer to the lucas formula. We agreed that canna coco was closer to lucas in a bottle, but that canna recommends feeding much stronger bidaily . It definitely builds up in the bottom of the bag such that I don't feed full strength. Conceptually it'd be easier to feed half strength, except they don't seem to like that. Anything much less than the "light" strength from their calculator (feeding daily), and I get at the minimum, iron stuff. With full strength cali magic. That's the confusion. I might try every other day, not sure. It'd save fertilizer.
Lucky777
Lucky777week 9
Really frosty! Those lights look like they are killing it. What’s the core coverage?
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@Lucky777, yeah the pvc i got i only needed for scrogs and had intended to repurpose for this but i think i can make a better solution and yea each one does about half of the 2x4 tent, at least at this close of a distance. hard to tell my footprint really. it's a lot more light than the 317w mars hydro reflector 144-diode blurple fixtures i have (was blooming with) its still pretty even lighting/canopy so i would say each of the eight plants gets about 50w worth of light
Lucky777
Lucky777
@Jaindoh, ahhhh ok, so they really only light up about a 2x2? Give Or take a little.PVC is pretty tough, especially if you get the industrial grade for underground pipes.
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@Lucky777, 2x Roleadro 400 (200W from wall each), which are two-diode fixtures. My filter has to be strapped to the top of the tent on the inside atm for space reasons so one of the lights is hanging crooked. I plan on making a PVC frame and hanging that from the roof, and then the lights from that. It would fix my coverage/heat map but I havent yet. All I have atm is a bunch of 1/2" slip sched 40 PVC and no glue, i'm afraid it won't hold. e: i think i have a better solution with just a piece of wire or two securely mounted to the outer ceiling bars instead of the center one.
Dries96
Dries96week 4
Hi man, just an information: what kind of manipulation is this? Which is the best way to reach these results with the trunk?
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@Dries96, These are 90-degree trained with LST tiedowns on the main and all the branches. Planted them off-center for this. I have done HST on almost every branch in this grow in order to try to grow short yielding plants. That is what forms the knot. I feed a lot of potassium silicate which helps a lot with LST, and also helps the plant develop larger trunk/branches. Shorter plants with large-diameter trunks and branches, less distance to pump... very vigorous. Particularly with the root supplements to have a lot of feeder roots on the other end.
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 14
From the pictures, those plants have used a lot of energy in building knots and trunks, they have responded very well to HST and it would have been the success you were looking for with regular or fem strains. Feed ... water ... or not ? It’s the f*ck*ng question 😅 I struggle with the same question and each times I get the answer by looking my plants and lifting the pots 😉 You just pointed the thing when you said that plants were looking better after being aerated... To make it easy for the new growers, Cannabis don’t like to be watered chronically, they love big amounts of water only once . As you’re not a beginner I must tell you it’s all about aerobic and anaerobic bacterials in the media , it’s the primary factor . After being watered the roots hairs dies and needs 3 days to grow back , during these 3 days anaerobic bacterials have the time to do their job , it’s the time the soil needs to dry out a bit and anaerobic bacterials start to dies leaving the place for aerobic bacterials when the roots hairs start to grow back and start the feeding exchange again .... So technically if you follow me and haven’t been lost 😄 you Water or Feed every 6 days maximum approximately, it makes once a week . The Canna Boost I suppose it’s the Rhizotonic, it is efficient at the beginning from seedlings to the 3rd week of flowering, using it after the 3rd week of flowering is wasting money and as you said bro it’s really expensive.
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, very interesting about the bacteria, i will have to keep that in mind; makes me wonder why youre supposed to water to runoff every other day. Obviously salts, and I do water them instead of feeding, but 20% runoff is a LOT of water. How would they stay happy? The boost I had intended is their bloom booster which I havent tried yet; the rhizotonic I am a big fan of and it only costs about the same as GH rapidstart. I will probably discontinue it after third week of flower in photos but autos are weird and keep growing past the stretch so i had been continuing to give it to them out of "better safe than sorry"
JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSweek 14
For the feeding question, as I said you must look your plants and check your garden tracker to know if you’re over feeding or under feeding, as some deficiency can looks similar to excess amounts sometimes. I’ve never grown in coco and never used LED’s and this is why it would be like gambling if I give you accurate feeding chart . Feeding is based on plants health and the amounts of Watts with HID’s but for LED’s idk if goes the same.
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, yeah I haven't been burning so it's mostly a min/max issue of expensive nutes and "maybe itll grow a bit better if im not giving them slightly too much nutes"; I had been adjusting feed to my plants with fox farm... it's a bit more weird to me with canna since it's an A+B all-in-one. I don't think I've been doing too poorly, just trying to dial it in to 'perfect'. My veg food's PPM for light schedule, 8.7 A+B, 4ml calmag (have dropped to 2), all the stuff I put in it, 626. The big flowering batches I had been giving at 13ml A+B were like 1050. Should be golden afaik, I really should at least do one round where I pull each plant out and test its drainage it's just the biggest drag with my setup lol. I am going to adjust my setup to where runoff testing should be easier.
OGBOBBYBUSH
OGBOBBYBUSHweek 12
Looking frosty
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 7
She's putting weight on nicely. Thanks for the update to your diary. Best wishes on the rest of the grow.
bobo420
bobo420week 13
How is the trichome situation?
bobo420
bobo420
@Jaindoh, yeah, she looks close... I'd say too that she still has enough nutes in her to finish the job, it's normal for her to draw nutrients and energy from the leaves so it's normal for them to go yellow at some point. I'd give them just water till the end, they seem healthy enough to not need any extra boosts for now
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@bobo420, i need a new scope i think, the lens is clouded -- the furthest alien in the front left seems within a few days, has a lot of cloudies lower down as well as the tops. There's a diesel that should go soon as well. its close enough that instead of feeding all 8, due to the overfeeding and them being autos i skipped a feed to flush 3 more that are closer as well. been giving molasses. if they start to look deficient i'll give them a feed but have been paranoid i have been overfeeding and stunting my autos so i'm betting there's enough still left in the bottom of the bag and their leaves to last them at least until the next feed day.
PigBearMan
PigBearManweek 7
That will be a bit... Keep it up dude. 😁
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@PigBearMan,oh yeah loving the roleadro 400 (200w) from jump street, these are so vigorous. thanks a ton man!
DaGrowQueen
DaGrowQueenweek 16
Excellent work on the alien.The buds are so frosty & dense and also looks as though u are gonna get a very descent yield out of em,bravo👏
bobo420
bobo420week 16
Love the coloring, some nice buds ;)
bobo420
bobo420week 14
Congratulations on the harvest! Those are some nice frosty looking buds, sure it will make for great medicine ;) Interesting diary, good job ;)
bobo420
bobo420week 14
They've put some weight this week, nice ;) As for the run off and feeding I agree with @@Athos. I don't grow in coco but have seen these bugger drink as much as a regular plant, some even more, they can be thirsty ones
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 10
What a sea! Very nice looking canopy! Nice grow! Continued best wishes!
Zannabis7
Zannabis7week 9
Lovin that canopy. Looking great!
Zanto
Zantoweek 9
Nice progress. I think you should take a look to the yellow dots on the leaves for any lack. I wish you the best!! Happy growing
sebadegreef
sebadegreefweek 7
Looks awesome bro! Happy growing!
Cannabisqueen
Cannabisqueenweek 6
Wow! I love that training!!!
DougFresh
DougFreshweek 5
Awful rough with those poor girls! They aren’t looking bad tho
Jaindoh
Jaindoh
@DougFresh, Yeah I have been recovering from multiple surgeries and have not been on my best game. Rushing while training, bending over and stretching to train / HST instead of moving plants, all type of other rookie mistakes. Three tents is whooping my ass so far. I am, however, generally in the "anti-fragile" camp of growing, stressing them on purpose; I'd rather make mistakes toward this direction than to be too gentle? IDK, it's a matter of perspective, clearly -- either way the Aliens were gonna be a bit too big for the tent so I've been trying to create and maintain an *ultra* low and wide canopy.