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HID/400W
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Topping
weeks 6-7
FIMing
weeks 6-7
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Grow medium
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Week 8
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18 hrs
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Neem Oil
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4 years ago
Week 8 The 2 topped plants have developed what looks like 4 main stems, 2 from where they were topped and 2 from lower branches that have caught up to the same height. The FIMed plant hasn't developed any clear new main stems, although it's lower stems have thickened a bit, it still hasn't really bushed out like it's sisters. One of the topped plants top growth has started to get a little lankier, bigger spacing between nodes & less outward growth. All the plants seem to be under some stress, lower branches starting to yellow & some leaves falling, but the middle-upper growth is fine. Could be nitrogen depletion in the soil, or the gnats may be causing them issues with nutrient uptake. The fly/gnat population has gotten a little bit larger, with 10+ flies (didn't really count) moving around. I've been watering with neem oil more often (almost every water now) & giving minimum 1 day gaps between watering, once a 2 day gap to try and curb the population, although I know the neem's effects are delayed as it makes the children infertile. Going to add some yellow stickies tonight & maybe catch some daddy long legs to move into the tent. At this rate of growth, I think I should be ready to flower in about a week, but I'm a little hesitant to if the gnats are still around, since I don't want them to be under stress through flowering, and the water will dry out slower under a shorter light cycle. How large should the gnat population be for me to be really concerned? I've been adding a light amount of nutrients as well with each of my waterings, figure it may help if they're having issues getting nutrients from their attacked roots, or if the soil is depleted, so I thought it couldn't hurt either way. With the gaps between watering I have seen the leaves canoing/cupping more often which makes me feel like I should be watering every day, but I want to keep the fly population under control so I haven't been. Is my watering schedule I good idea or should I be going more regularly? Not sure if the gnats of dehydration would be a bigger worry for the plants (maybe it'd be alright if I'm using neem every 2nd water?). A comment mentioned what I suspect to be gnats may be springtails, how would one be able to tell the difference between them? Any advice would be much appreciated. Update: Pretty sure they're gnats now, but the yellow sticky has been quite effective, definitely a large drop in population from yesterday. As long as I keep the soil a little drier than I have been, and maybe occasionally using neem oil & prevent them from getting out of control again, I don't think they'll be much of a problem anymore. I also think some of the signs of stress I was seeing was because the light was probably a bit closer than it should have been, so I've raised it. I've also added a small mint plant that I'll keep in the shade near the fan, hopefully it can act as a little preventative for pests returning, and maybe attract some beneficial creatures. Worst case, have some more mint to use
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Grow Questions
FullFuzzy
FullFuzzystarted grow question 4 years ago
I was thinking of topping my plants in about a weeks time after they're a little more established in their larger pots unless the stressed one doesn't start to bounce back. Does it seem to early for that?
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Techniques. Topping
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! Usually topping is done when there is 5-6 nodes grown. If you have stunted growth and little bit struggling I would wait until she is growing helthy and strong and only then I would top her. Topping causes lots of stress to the plant and if she is already stressed it will take longer to heal from it. Topping a healthy plant will not stress nearly as much and she will bounce back much faster. If you are not in a hurry I suggest that you take your time with the girl and heal her good before topping! 👌
FullFuzzy
FullFuzzystarted grow question 4 years ago
One of my plants has a discoloured spot on it but otherwise looks pretty healthy, any ideas of what may have caused it & if I should be too concerned about it?
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Leaves. Other
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! Its probably nothing. The leafs are so fragile to take damage from anything. It can be a drop of nutrient water or too acidic/alkaline water or something similiar. Most of the time one random spot on thr plant means nothing. Keep an eye on it tho if it spreads but I'll doubt it!
FullFuzzy
FullFuzzystarted grow question 4 years ago
One of my plants has started to have it's lower leaves curl upwards & started to go a yellow tint that's harder to see in my images. Yellow tint is starting higher up as well I think, but the curling is only on the low leaves. Is it nutrient defficiency, heat stress, wind stress?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Jef79
Jef79answered grow question 4 years ago
Hello.. Hope you are well.. Tbh shes very young still and its probably damage from water wen she was a baby.. Her leaf curl is just drying out at her tip because of prior damage.. Ideally u shud b watering her with ph'd solution at ranges from 6-6.5 in soil.. Because she's at wk 4 i dont think she will of consumed all potential food in soil stil so if u do decide to feed her only give her 1 feed at a very low ratio.. Stay safe n gud luck.. 👍🍀
FullFuzzy
FullFuzzystarted grow question 4 years ago
I'm my 3rd week since changing my light to HPS & schedule to 12/12, but my plants are losing some leaves & haven't stretched much at all, should I reveg & let them heal before flowering, or persevere with flowering? Plants are <90cm (fan is 90cm), in a 6ft tent with 400w HPS/MH
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Leaves. Tips - Die
Leaves. Color - Pale
Plant. Too short
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Bloombuster
Bloombusteranswered grow question 4 years ago
нужно её вылечить перед цветением! У неё недостаток азота, бро ! Увеличьте в 2 раза свою добавку Grow! Установите кислотность своей почвы в значении ph 6.1 👆 Только после восстановления она сможет удачно цвести! Без этого ты либо потеряешь всё, либо будет несравнительно малый урожай! 👆 Удачи, друг! 👌 И не забывайте выбирать лучшего автора ответа на ваш вопрос, это важно для сообщества и для наших соревнований! Спасибо! 👍
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Ajwardy18
Ajwardy18week 7
You mentioned flies...did they jump out when watering? If so there springtails and are your friends, also turn your light off when spraying!! Those lower leaves may be get burnt, ive noticed your stems are purple, not sure if it's the strain yet that's a sign off humidity which should be around 55/65% at this stage, temps should be no lower then 18°C, magnesium deficiency, light exposure or in correct pH, Coco is 5.7/6.2 and soil is 6.2/6.5, overall she looks great for a first grow
Ajwardy18
Ajwardy18
@FullFuzzy, as you mentioned they have wings and are tiny flies I'm looking more to fungus gnats, let your medium dry out a fair bit and make sure it's 2 inches dry on the top as if left wet for to long they will lay larva and if the top is wet for so long. Soil you can get away with watering 3 times a week pushing 2. Make sure air is blowing on top of your soil, cut back on watering for a few days, if that doesn't solve it apply sticky pads to misting the top of the soil evenly to kill the larva, I haven't done it with coffee grounds so I can't say anything to do with that I'm affraid, it's not necessary to check run off PH to the soil PH as long as what's going in and I personally would aim for PH6/6.2, I haven't used bio verge and I've just did a quick look and that's rich in nitrogen which is vital for the vegetative stage and should not be PH adjusted. Most tend to use calmag or epsom salt to treat that deficency
FullFuzzy
FullFuzzy
@@@Ajwardy18, the flies do seem to jump out when watering, is there any other way to differentiate them from gnats? They're quite tiny so they're hard for me to identify properly, they're small & black. Not sure of the humidity, will see if I have something to measure that, temps are stable at above 20C (even through the night), reaching max 28C on hot days, usually at a more comfortable 25-26C. I tried using an old tool for measuring the soil PH a couple weeks back and it was saying 7 PH which seemed too alkaline based on what I added to it, but I covered the topsoil with some coffee grounds to try and improve the PH regardless but haven't checked since then. The tool was a little dirty & in storage for a good while so I wasn't sure of the accuracy, but I might use it on some other soil to see whether I should trust it, and measure the soil PH again. My soil is a combination of Coir & Soil, so should I be aiming for around 6.2PH? With the magnesium deficiency, would my nutrients (Bio Vega) be able to help with that or should I get something else to address that? Thanks for the advice EDIT: They do have wings & fly around pretty confidently, it's to my understanding that springtails don't have wings & just hop? Thanks again
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 3
hey there, hope i answered your question, anything else you need, just let me know ! 👊