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GWSD82 GWSD82
4 years ago
Wow. It's been a tough week.... let me start by saying that when I started this, I didn't realize quite how in-depth it can get. This grow started out in my attic, more for space reasons than stealth. Recently had it all boarded out, it has power sockets, I can keep all the stuff up there and it won't be in the way. But I didn't count on the absurd fucking temperatures it would get to when the British climate decided to give us a spell of nice weather. Outside, temps went up to 27C. The tent in the attic was hitting 38C..... wooops. I tried to keep it cooler, but short of installing AC in the attic, it was just too damn HOT. One of my 3 girls was already a no-show (RIP Annie) and now the other 2 that had made it up through the ground were curling up the tips of their leaves with heat stress. I had to do something, so moved the whole grow into a cooler room on the ground floor. They still didn't respond very well, so I had to start researching what else was wrong with them. Well, it seems that the one problem of heat had caused all sorts of other shit. They were stressed from heat, so not taking up stuff properly through the roots. Also, because of the heat they had endured in the attic, the soil had become very acidic (heat causing more evaporation from the solution, sending ph down below optimal and EC through the roof). So, just moving the plants to a cooler location was not enough - I had to fix the other damage the initial heat had caused. I'm growing in coco/perlite, so only one thing for it. Complete flush with ph'd distilled water to remove all salts and completely reset the balance of the medium. Then replace all that water with a new nutrient solution at the correct levels, and this time MANAGE THE DAMN RUNOFF. After the initial bad start to the week, I am really happy with the way they have recovered and are growing (now I've learned how to do things a little better...). High frequency feedings, completely saturating the pots and replacing the old solution each time. It's a bit hectic, but I've managed to get a system going that I'm happy with. Started out with some light nutes, been slowly increasing the strength from 25%, to 50%, to 75%. Oh, and where I live, the tap water quality sucks, the water is hard as hell. Even after going through a Brita water filter, the PPM is 350, so I've been using distilled water as a base for the nutes with a calmag sup. So now I'm sourcing distilled water like madman on top of trying to balance the feeding events. But it's all looking good....for now :) tl;dr - I taught myself a valuable lesson that heat sucks and can seriously screw with your plants.
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GWSD82
GWSD82started grow question 4 years ago
Since getting a better light, runoff EC has been dropping steadily, and is now LOWER than input (~ -75 micros below). Not just an anomaly, this has been every feed for 3 days and is predictable. Could my plants be asking for more food in response to the growth from the new light?
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
If your in veg a simple way to know your girls want more is to look at the stems of your leaves. If it isn't an genetically purple plant then those stems on your leaves should be green. When they start getting red or purple then they are asking for more. This only applies to while their in veg mode. Cheers
GWSD82
GWSD82started grow question 4 years ago
Autoflower started showing sign of deficiency at week 8. Assuming CalMag, as I filter my water and affected area is new growth at top of plant (see pic). 1) Can someone confirm CalMag deficiency or something else? 2) Should I remove affected leaves or leave them be? Thanks
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Any time you chop anything from your girls you create a little stress, but they recover. That would be your decision.,if it was near the bottom or middle I would pull it but seeing it's at the top I myself would leave it for a while. Now I cant tell how you feed, so I dont know if it's a deficiency or its lockout happening stopping her from taking the elements up. If your not using a tds reader and ph meter and your feeding by the nute label I would suspect lockout, if your following their advice. It could also be a ph issue if your not using a ph tester. Does look like a p and k issue. You need to find out what your runoff ph and tds are. If you haven't a meter I suggest you get one quick, or do a flush to wash out the old nutes and in with the new. Cheers friend
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Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808week 10
Some serious weight there buddy and I hope the rest of the drying runs smoothly for you!! πŸ‘πŸ˜ŠπŸŒΏ
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808
@GWSD82, Yeh, I'm the same and being at home has allowed me to have more control over shit and adjust if need be!! 😊. I'm liking the whole Coco thing too and the fact that you can't really over water and no pests is a huge positive for me, like you say we have to water more but I'm cool with that to be honest!! It's almost like a gentle flushing a lot of the time during growth...... For the future grow check out 'growell.co.uk' for the Canna Coco Plus bags....very good value!! All the best buddy πŸ‘πŸ˜‰
GWSD82
GWSD82
@Bushbaby808, Yeah, I'm determined to be patient :) I'm sure I'll be dipping into it a little once it's dried for a bit of taste, but then it's into the jars with boveda packs for another few weeks at least. I think I paid Β£26 for a 50l bag of Ecothrive Coco/Perlite 70/30 mix (admittedly that did include Β£6.50 shipping), so it's not a vast expense, I just thought it would be nice to re-use it...... I'll use it again for my next grow, but will probably stick with fresh after that, it's worth the price to skip the hassle. Will definitely be sticking to coco though. It was lot of effort when I was fertigating 4-5 times a day in the hot weather, but damn, it's impressive stuff. Will definitely be investigating in some form of auto-irrigation / self-draining system, because dealing with run-off and constantly having to make up new batches of nutrient solution is fairly time consuming. It's not been so bad since lock down as I'm working from home, so I can keep up with that many feedings per day, but at some point soon, I'll have to go back into work, so I need to have something automated.
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808
@GWSD82, Remember to allow them to dry out properly buddy, I messed up on my 1st grow because I didn't give them enough time and that can ruin perfectly good buds during the cure!! 100% waiting for some snap this time round!! πŸ‘ I'm surprised your re using your Coco, that must of been grief man.....I can pick up a 50L bag of Coco Plus for about Β£12 so I'll be using fresh stuff on every grow!! 😊
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LeafTucker
LeafTuckerweek 10
You were robbed. Very nice first grow.
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808week 10
Lovely stuff buddy and I should really of found your grow a while back!! Cracking looking buds and you're in for some goodness there πŸŒΏπŸ˜‰ I too grow with Canna nutrients and Coco and wondered whether to flush plain or with Zym and Boost and because I'm only growing 1 I'll continue with the additives this time...... Be good to seeing if there's any difference between the 2 for yourself? Happy harvest 🌞
Bushbaby808
Bushbaby808
@GWSD82, Nice one buddy and hope it all goes well for you πŸ˜‰. Look forward to hearing your views afterwards and it's great to have the comparison between the two.....🌿🌿
GWSD82
GWSD82
@Bushbaby808, thanks man! First time, so I had no idea what to expect, and it's looking much better than I could have hoped for. Can't wait for a taste, the drying stage is going to seem like forever! I can't see any harm in flushing just with zym and a little boost. If flushing does have any benefits, I think they are less relevant for coco than they are for soil. Certainly the zym will help keep the coco in good shape to be re-buffered and used again. Coco is fairly expensive (relative to soil at least) so it's worth keeping it for the next grow. I'm certainly interested to see if there is any difference in the quality / flavour of the smoke between flushed and unflushed. Going to see the weekend out, then give them the chop on Monday. Super excited! Cheers!
Green_punch
Green_punchweek 1
"se qualcuno ha qualche idea sul perché Bella è venuta così male, mi piacerebbe sentirla."... Nulla di grave amico, è solo una mutazione genetica, anche la mia ha una foglia"malata"😁. Ad oggi io non sono soddisfatto, su due semi il 1° si è bloccato alle prime 2 foglioline e ora il secondo tentativo... Dopo 13gg è 1/3 delle altre 2 che sono nate insieme.... Come si dice dalle mie parti "questi semi sono un pacco" 🀣🀣. Ah, mi avevano regalato anche una g14... Mai nata.
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
@GWSD82, your seed dyeing would have been from damping off. Young seedings are susceptible especially if their to wet. Great way to assure of no damping is to sprinkle a little cinnamon on the soils and water in...hope this helps for future babies...Cheers
GWSD82
GWSD82
Wow, that's harsh. I feel for you! The other seed of my 3 is definitely dead. When I dug it up, the taproot had come out about 1/2 cm and then just stopped. Possibly my fault, may have made it too wet perhaps? I have some more seeds, but I don't think I'm going to replace the one I lost this time round. Looking at some diaries of this strain, it looks like they can get pretty big, and in the space I have, I think 3 of these would have been a bit too much anyway, so I'm happy that 2 are healthy and looking well, I can focus my attention on them.
GreenCasual
GreenCasualweek 10
Thanks for your diary mate, it’s very detailed. Hope my Orange Sherbet will be as beautiful as yours ! Keep growing ✌️
GWSD82
GWSD82
@GreenCasual, thanks man! Hope it helped! This is a beautiful strain, taste is out of this world :)
LeafTucker
LeafTuckerweek 10
Killer harvest brother. I hope to see you in the final 3!
GWSD82
GWSD82
@LeafTucker, ah, such is life! Mad props to the winners though, they all looked good :) I've still got plenty of my harvest to keep me going, and just started my second grow. Started growing more as a side hobby just to get some nice free weed.... but, it's er, kinda taken over a whole room of my house... the wife doesn't seem to mind as much now she's sampled what we grew at home compared to the stuff we used to have to pay Β£180 an ounce for from the shadiest guy in the shadiest part of town. Happy days, my man :)
JBgrowing
JBgrowingweek 10
47 ounces from 2 indoor plants in that time? Is that even close to possible? Lol
GWSD82
GWSD82
@JBgrowing, fresh wet weight, yes :) I'm hoping for a dry return of 6oz once all dried and trimmed, which I hope should be realistic? Not sure how much weight gets lost in the drying process.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 10
Great harvest and thank you for a good reading. Nice job by the way πŸ˜ŠπŸ™
MrJones
MrJonesweek 10
Great harvest, 20% yield from we to dry is pretty constant, depends on the size of the stems and other growth weighed prior to drying, overall I think you have nailed it, my friend!
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 8
When I switch to flower I go from the veg nutes being at the ppm your running now 1.9 to flower nutes starting at 1.2 ec for early flower, I watch for deficiencies and I increase next feed to 1.4 a week later. Then If their still yellowing I increase to 1.6ec. I only feed once per week as I am not growing in coco, just nutramix hp is all I use so it is the first 3 weeks of actual flower that I increased to 1.6. This is what I follow. 1.2 to 1.4 for early flower, 1.6 to 1.8 for mid flower and back to 1.2 for late flower. When your girls use up their nutes, that is good, you always replace. 1.9 ec ismto high for this stage of growth. I would cut it back a little to maybe 1.4 for the next 2 weeks. Weed needs very little nutes to thrive,,overboard will reduce your harvest. My diary is pretty up to date on what I have fed and what the ppm and tds is and was going in and coming out. Cheers friend, hope things improve for you.
Papabro2k
Papabro2kweek 4
Looking great ✌️
GWSD82
GWSD82week 1
Should note that distance from plants to light is 60cm, not 60 inches. Not sure if I can edit that....
Green_punch
Green_punch
@GWSD82,puoi modificare tutto quello che vuoi, l app Γ¨ fatta veramente bene ed Γ¨ utilissima. Giocarci un po' e vedrai che Γ¨ tutto molto intuitivo