Proxy #1 Cancelled "Gorilla Zkittles"

Hello all👋. This is Gorilla Zkittles first week. The Deets: **Will edit in equipment and material used for project in near future** Strain Information Direct From Barney's: Type: Feminized/Photo-period Genetics: Gorilla Glue x Zkittlez Effect: Powerful, Relaxing, Thought Provoking Indoor Yield (g): up to 600-700 gr/m² Flowering Time (days): 55 - 65 Height Indoor (cm): 140cm Strain Type: 60/40% Indica Dominant Taste: Fruity Aroma: Fruity Notes For the Week: -Gorilla had a nice start as well, though she was one day behind her Glookies counterpart. She caught up quick and matched the two oldest girls in no time, surpassing Violator Kush. Going into the third fan set on day 7 is good enough for me and she seems like a sturdy lady with tonnes of life. -Though I am changing my germination methods a bit, I started GZ and the others with my older ways. So, they got a soak, went into paper towel to tap and finally into their Solo's at 3/8's" depth. Medium was a 50/50 split with Pro-mix and Dutch Treat Potting Soil w/ a 1:5 perlite ratio. Good aeration w/ relatively low water retention. -I am greatly looking forward to this strain and is one of the girls I received through a seed exchange. Happy to see she's healthy thus far, going into her second week👍 -I lost my Banana Krumble😭. It hurt, but that's how she goes sometimes man. I will be growing this strain. I am going to source it for Grow #5. I will! get it done, haha. I want me some krumble sooo bad😅. Anywho, Aya Purple was her replacement, which isn't exactly settling... I am happy to have such a solid, potent and healthy substitute👌 Hey, hey, that's all for this week folks. Thanks for stopping by and checking out the new life I have going's on. Hope all you are having a smooth ride with your projects and are enjoying the fruits of your labor. Cheers to you all, catch you next week👋✊

Forth update in a row😓. Oof! I'm either tired or lazy, lol. Anywho, here's Week 2 w/ Gorilla Zkittles from Day 9-16(missing some early week photos...oops!). The Deets: The Good: -Very positive growth and health coming from GZ. I'm not worried about her at all and barely have to do a thing. Make sure she's got a little food and water and she does the rest. -Transplant and first feeding went very well and GZ didn't droop or stress out when all was said and done. She became noticeably more vigorous after 24hrs from first feeding and is starting to really take off as her foliar surface area is expanding at a much higher rate. -Good height, kept her short and the SF is doing a good job of keeping her happy where she is. Bulking outwards with some adequate upward growth. -This girl will be a bushy one. I can see who she will be now and it appears she's very characteristic of a broad leafed Indica. I see a tad of Sativa in the mix, but she definitely is going the route of short and stout. Planning on allowing some stretch in near future to help her out if she's a little too short to work with. No Bad... The 'Meh': -Same as the other entries. Working on acclimating the big tent in the midst of a seasonal weather change. Trying to get back into the winter groove w/ lower temps and moisture levels. -She get's very droopy at night. I did a lot of research last grow when I noticed this and came to one of two conclusions. One: This is a normal nastic movement built into the plants genetics, where she will go into "protection mode", dropping her leaves to protect from predators and to conserve heat during the colder night cycle. Two: I need C02 supplementation as my transpiration rates are high. She's "gassing out" at the end of the day and goes into sleep mode until she has the gumption to go again the next day. None of the other three girls are doing it this time (yet) so it's interesting to me why she specifically goes down at night. The more I read on it the more fascinated I am... There are many theories out there, but it seems there is no one answer. If you have insight into this, please don't hesitate to contact me and/or link me an article on the subject at hand. Notes of the Week: -Tested all soils before use this time, hahaha. That hot seeding soil last time is burned into me and I'll never use a medium without a slurry test from here on out. Potting soil, seeding soil, and Promix all came up aces and are exactly where they should be. -I cut the bone meal from my soil conditioning for pot up, this round. I will be amending the soil with it on the 2-5 gallon move, but I feel some of my P/Cal issues last grow came from this addition to early on stage of life. That, and I am using Miicrobial mass now and it's micro nutrient breakdown (specifically P/Cal) may make that bone meal break down faster and be taken quicker then we'd like. -3 to 5 gallon fabrics were a pain, so this round I'm using 2 to 5 gallon fabrics and will pot up before they have a chance to bind and/or root into the bag. Last go I left this a week too long and this was a brutal experience trying to get them out. I ended up cutting the bags because I was risking big damage to the plant. Would like to avoid this, this time, and the 2 gallons already feel and look like they'll be an easier move then prior. -Because I'm a little too cautious when using a new nutrient line, I am slowly working into the Future Harvest Program. I started with M-G-B but the remaining additives were what I knew. When I saw no issues I moved to their Super B+ and Propogator Root Dev., which also caused zero issues. I will be expanding further into their line as I test each Nutrient/Additive. So far, so very good👍 -Saving some power and have the SF closer but at a lower intensity. The new side dial makes things stupid easy. Currently upping my LUX on a daily basis and am sitting at 19k atm. By end of week 3, I plan on having these girls at 35-40k (If they're okay with that). -Lastly, I would like to up my transpiration rates and am considering Co2 supplementation... I have the material for a DIY, but I think I'll go w/ a legit kit or O2 Bag. Hoping a buddy of mine that can help me out with this and source me a free but SAFE! unit. -Not Lastly.... Oops! By Sept 20th I will have pictures of the new proxy project and all the equipment used. This is a private grow but express permission has been granted to showcase the grow and the girls as we move along. It will be a 4 stain multi-grow journal and will not be touching any contests. This is an adventure I'm sharing with a long time, close friend, who wants to become self sufficient and grow his own. He will be just as responsible for this grow's success as I am and so far him and I have meshed very, very well. This is how I try to pay it forward and once he has a good handle on the process, then he will spread the word and keep this ball rolling👍👊. A final selection has to be made, but all girls are up and ready to go, healthy and very happy. This journal will include 4 of these 5 choices: Green Poison (sweet seeds), Northern Lights (i49), Violator Kush (Barney's), Granddaddy Black (i49) and L.A Amnesia (Paradise Seeds). Should be fun👍 That was GZ folks. Pretty good shape and on her way. I hope you all have a gooder and enjoy your projects/medicine. Spread the love and the word home boys and home girls. International legalization is only possible together. Cheers👋👊 **As mentioned above, if you have any insight or a link pertaining to evening/nightly nastic movements, please don't hesitate to reach out! I would like to know more and certainly what you've come across! Thank you in advance👍**

Hello👋. Here's what's going on this week with GZ. The Deets (Days 17-22): The Good: -She's a really good lady. I worry about her but she keeps proving my paranoia wrong. She's growing very well and at a very high rate w/ new laterals pumping out for some training. She has taken all feeds and preliminary training pretty well, but does get a tad mad at me... -Love her texture and leaves. She's thick and needs defo in future, but all this foliar surface area is kicking things into high gear and there's no looking back😃 The 'Meh': -She has a harder time with the heat then any of the other girls it seems. I've dropped my temps to accommodate her, but she still does droop out at night time (those good ol' nastic movements again). Every night it looks bad and I'm paranoid, but for 3 weeks straight she just bounces back and is praying by morning. It is a non-issue right now, but certainly does look like somethings off. -I love her, but she's fickle. Too much heat, humidity or light and she'll let you know right away. The the tent automated now, this is happening less and she is less angry with me, buuuut I am still watching my parameters closely so I don't cause any unnecessary stress on the little one. Notes of the Week: -As mentioned I have taken another step further and wanted to automate my unit. I had no issue doing all this manually before, but I'm getting quite busy these days, have a lot going on and I really needed for them to take care of themselves. The days spent adjusting and calibrating devices were completely worth it... Best buy I have gone for in a long time and I caught them on their 10th anniversary sale. Couldn't say no to 40-50% off! -With the new automation I have already cut my exhaust, intake, humidifier and supplementary heater power usage by 66%... Hot damn. Before it was an odd system, running 24/7 without the best balance between heat and humidity. Now, nothing is on in tandem with one another anymore and everything cycles only 5 minutes for 4 times an hour (20 min of 60 min). I'd say this power savings alone is worth the cost of the set-up, but it's so much better then that. I'm loving these things! -All girls are healthy and happy. They may have had a slower start due to my tom-foolery, but we're on cruise control now w/ each blowing up and showing me who they're going to be. Preliminary training has started on all four as I try to expose some laterals for training. Coming into the 4th week, I appear to have all my main laterals I need for training and to create my bubbles👍. -I'm doing okay with Future Harvest nutes and I haven't made a mistake yet, but I do feel I'm pushing my limits with Phosphorous again... The feed after the listed one above was her last for a tiny while and they're on water feeds with either a micro dose of M-G-B or Miicrobial mass to assist in unplugging any issues at the root zone (P/Cal). For now though, I'm not in a rush and they're moving fine. Don't feel like pushing my luck this round so going to back off my P as well until I feel it's necessary to apply such high doses. -At the time of writing this entry (a week old) two girls have been topped and the other ladies will be fluxed tomorrow, September 27th. Training is going into high gear and it's time to fill a tent😀 *Moving Forward*: Where do I even start... Ah, these girls right here are being moved. I will still be growing them to end game but they will not be on my premises for legal reasons. I have had my interviews with Fotonica and have a pretty good idea on when EVA 3 will be arriving and when I will need to commission this unit for a comparison grow vs SF-2000's. So here's the deal. These four girls are going to a friends house, the same fella I had mentioned I was walking through the growing process, built up his tent unit and gave him some babies to grow. Those babies are being taken back now and will either be scrapped or kept, pending on where I can find them a home. They're admittedly effed up and stunted, so I'm considering a fresh run (I effed them up, not my friend...oops!😬). I spread myself and my equipment thin and they did not get the attention they needed or deserved. THIS fresh run will be operating under one diary and will be a multi strain grow (4 plants). I will be propagating these for about 4-5 weeks before they TOO will move to a different friends house to grow to end game....😅😅. At this time, I should have EVA 3 and will start MY grow, lol!! Kind of a crap show, but trust me when I say, I've been working on this for 1.5 weeks and it's gonna work damnit! Hahaha. That's as far as I'll go for now cause it's confusing and I'm confused. I have a bit to go here and have been working everyday, converting rooms, moving equipment, acclimating new environments, piecing and building new tent units, etc...etc... It is all worth it as I have achieved what I wanted... access to more plants, product and equipment. In two months I should hopefully have a total of 12-16 plants running in 3 locations. Alllll legit and legal so I don't get crapped on!😄 If you read all that...thank you and I'm sorry, lol. I'll catch you all with a late 4th week update which will consist of pictures from my unit up until the move and new home at my friends place. A new set and that new diary will be up in a couple weeks. Cheers all! Thanks for stopping by and I hope to catch you on the flip side. If you know of a good way of transferring files from android to PC, let me know. I gotta get this figured out or I have to do this all through my phone. Ouch. Peace!👋👊

Hello all and welcome to a late entry of Week 4 w/ Gorilla Zkits. Finally worked out my file transfer issues and will be catching up on everything over the next few days...Super😃! The Deets (Day 23-30): The Good: -GZ had a pretty good Week 4 and I was pleased with her progress. She is moving well, taking feeds well and training well. Besides some heavier leaves (water retention/pH issue) and droopiness, this girl did have a good week. -Was concerned about root travel, but after a slice to the bag and a sample, I see she actually did root pretty well and did take the area she was given. Pot-up to 5G will be coming very soon. The 'Meh': -Calm before the storm. Late in the week, just before the move to my buddies, I started to notice some symptomatic behavior and all girls w/ Glookies seemingly the least affected. I know this wasn't stress from the move because I saw it prior to this. I know somethings off, but I'm waiting to find out what, exactly. -Stopped taking feeds well and stayed wet/damp for longer then before and her leaves seemed to get "heavier" and darker with each day. Running through the gauntlet of parameters to find the main cause. It's not serious yet, but I know something's coming down.😬 Notes of the Week: -As I don't feel I will be able to keep up with super thorough diaries on all the girls, I've decided to make Glookies the Master Diary instead of copy/pasting between journals. From here on out Glookies will have the mass bulk of all information pertaining to all the girls procedures, new schedules, plans and misc. information. The other diaries will include the "Good" and the "Meh" w/ pictures, but entries will be far less in depth. -At the time of writing this I am estimating an additional 2.5-3 weeks of Veg time on all the girls. With some stunting, pH imbalance and mistakes made, we lost a bit of time, but time is all it is. With their new pot up, adjusted pH and feedings, I do trust these girls are going to be happy and blow the hell up in the coming weeks. They are already starting in poor conditions. If I give them what they want, I see nothing but good things in the future. -Proxy Project #2 will be started by the end of this week (Oct 4th) and I should hopefully be able to share a one week update on the new kids. These will be with me for about a month (or when EVA 3 comes in) and then will be transferred to my other friends home for the remainder of propagation under a HPS/MH system (First timer with MH/HPS). -Everything is kind of up in the air when it comes to my actual project start date. I haven't even picked the genetics I'm going to be using... but am slowly working things out. -Bedroom has been completely converted into the official grow room. She's tight, but it's more then adequate for a side by side comparison grow. Damn near every device and piece of equipment is the same, all the way down to the cords used. These units will be operating under the same environment w/ the only differing parameter being the lamp itself. We're gonna do this right👍. I would like the results to be as accurate and concise as possible. -Many, many updates to catch up on and many new entries to start. I really don't think I'll have it all down for a couple weeks here. Entries will continue to be one week behind as I try to catch up on things😃 Thanks for stopping by everyone! Going to finish up my "Week 4's" and catch up to the week 5's where I discovered the issues plaguing the girls, the process I have in play to rectify the issues and some notes/comments/questions about moving forward. May need all you lovely people's assistance soon if what I did isn't going to fly🙏. Cheers all! Have a gooder and I'll catch you on the flip side. Peace👋✊ **Really am not keeping up with pictures of giving all the girls "photo shoots"😂. Distracted when there's a plant issue and that comes first. So, ya. Not pretty pictures, but accurate progression of GZ. Thanks!**

Hello all! Just getting around to wrapping up these current updates before moving to Week 6 and the girls recovery. Photo's aren't pretty bud they're relatively back on track and filling the tent up. This Update will cover both weeks 5 and 6 (Days 31 to 41). The Deets: The Good and the "Meh": -Bad couple of weeks, but still alive and in recovery. Tough go, but thankfully we have some strong genetics and the bounce back is under way. Problem(s) in Short Form: -Wild pH imbalance and very low. Soil turned or was hot for awhile clocking in at 4.5-5.0pH. This caused a nutrient take up issue, starving the plants while simultaneously stunting them. -Leaves became dark, droopy and shiny with P/Cal/Mag defs. starting to occur top and bottom. -Weak root system and poor uptake left plants water logged, further starving and now asphyxiating them. -Handcuffed for feeding with no way to adjust soil pH or nutrient levels until water dissipates. Quick Run-Down Plan: -Expedite dry time and flush when ready. Give adequate feeding at 6.7 to raise pH and stop starvation, carrying them to next feed/flush. Do this at least once and observe. If symptoms do not regress or plants do not rebound, repeat and/or adjust process for second procedure and plant run-down. -Take dead plant life, gently train out and aerate center/lower canopy. Increase extraction to 24/7 operation with higher fan circulation within tent, on pots and top soil. Gently punch aeration holes and till top 1 inch of top soil to help aeration and quicken dry time. Current Status (End Week 6): She is coming back very well in color, vigor and strength. There is a touch of deficiencies present, but these will hopefully be contained and/or knocked out after the second and third procedure in Week 7. This little one went from the worst off to one of the healthiest girls in the tent, while the former most vigorous girl (Glookies) is having issues...crazy how things work out like that but will deal with it and take er' slow. I have faith all will be alright, just need to keep up due diligence. Thanks for stopping by for this short update. Week 7 will be more involved and have far better pictures attached (have a hobbyist photographer on board taking pictures now with actual equipment, not a phone😂). I look forward to sharing the transition and new vigor of the girls. Still not out of the woods, but certainly on our way. End of week 7 is today and we're projected another 1-1.5 weeks until flip (8.5-9 weeks). Excited....! Have a gooder folks and I'll catch you on the flip side tomorrow of the day after (October 19th/20th) Peace!👊👋

**Full Disclosure, this entry is more for me and is meant to be cathartic. I have no where else to express this or tell this story, so I'd like to do it here. In no way, shape or form do you have to upvote or read this entry. I thank you for your time if you do read through this slog and if you have similar stories, I would really like to hear them... Really would. I feel like I'm crazy pills and need to know I'm not the only one dealing with/seeing these people....right? Anywho...** This will be the final entry for all four girls (Glookies, VK, GZ and Aya P) on their 49th day, w/ one or two final photos I managed to take. There has been a falling out and I have been ostensibly used and abused (hustled as @Med_in_tropic would say). This entry will be copy/pasted between journals as I'd only like to do this once...I don't want to think about it anymore😓. This will be less about the plants and more of a warning for other growers attempting to do what I have been doing. I'd like to go over some pieces of the story that lead me here and share "Red Flags" with the community that we should all be looking out for, before jumping into a project with someone else... We will be calling this person "Person 1" throughout this entry, along with "Person 2" the spouse of Person 1. The Deets: Initial Project Plan, Agreements and Task Delegation (Spoken word contract with other individual): -The unit and equipment used were discussed and Takeoff's were done my by myself to build his unit with all devices, cords, equipment and misc. good's he would need to start a proper grow. No research on the part of "Person 1" was performed. Down to the nutrients and mediums chosen, "person 1" did not participate other then making the payment for the goods. -I agreed to start all four specimens at my location as he "did not have the time for early propagation". This is a common theme... I provided top tier Barney's genetics, 2 gallon fabrics and soil mediums, propagating these until 'Week 4' at which time I planned to transfer these kids to their new home. "Person 1" was not involved in any way shape or form. When asked to come observe his new kids, he refused as "he was busy..." All correspondence was done via text message even though he literally lives 2.5 minutes from me. (Red Flag #1) -"Person #1" Had agreed to take my reading material and project notes for review so he would have a basic understanding of the process. He received grow bibles by both Jorge Cervantis and Greg Green (120 dollars in text). He put it on his cupboard. Four weeks later, it was still on his cupboard, un-cracked. The post it notes I have in those books alone are gold...and direct myself and anyone reading to pertinent information, definitions and proper propagation procedures. (Red Flag #2). -"Person #1" became upset at me when questioned as to why he had not read anything I had given him. I expressed concern that without a base knowledge coming into his first grow, things would not go well. I explained that we have individual responsibilities to self learn and refine our own methods. His response "I do not like to read. I would prefer if you sent short article's, charts, pictures etc... This is how I learn". Okay, revamp. Started to link articles and charts pertaining to basic propagation, deficiencies to look for, lighting levels, VPD charts etc... Several days later I quizzed him on the information shared. "I didn't read it, I was busy" and "I think I prefer being shown and told what to do". Okay, another revamp with one on one instruction. Person #1 took very few opportunities to learn with me, one on one. Multiple opportunities for feeding lessons, pH balancing, training lessons, testing lessons etc... were mostly ignored. There was an excuse for everything. -This led me to a very frustrating break down (mentally). We were having major plant issues but person #1 was of no help and was compounding the problems by over/under watering at every interval, even with direct instructions not to do so (feeding gallon of water, not properly balanced at two hours before lights out when asked for at least 8 hours of transpiration before lights off). -Plants were in a bad way, I was being ignored and I had to walk away to assess where I stand. After one week I decided I couldn't' abandon the girls. They were mine, not his, and every last procedure and action was taken by me....in his tent...in his house...where he lives. I came back with new boundaries and was very civil in expressing my concerns about the project, his accountability, lack of ambition and continuous plant damage. I pleaded with him that I NEED him and can't do this alone, that I can't spend 2-3 hours every second day fixing his mistakes and/or propagating the plants. I needed him to take the reigns on key responsibilities that were must's, not "if you have the time". -Agreement came and I went back to work. Person 1 showed a change in attitude for a whole 4 days, before reverting back to all the above** I was left alone to bring them back...and I did. 2 weeks, three procedures and 16 hours later, the girls picked up, deficiencies were tackled, pH was swung back into place and plant growth became exponential. -Person 1 fought me daily on his agreed upon tasks and continually/seemingly tried to twist my arm into doing everything he needed to be doing. Invited me over for a "smoke session" just to redirect me to the plants, asking me to feed/train/etc... for him. Made "jokes" about just giving me a sleeping bag so I could take care of them myself... This is where things degraded quickly. His comments woke me up. -I came to the very late revelation that Person 1 had no intention of growing Cannabis, he was interested in free weed without the work. Person 1 decided that buying the equipment needed was as far as he would go and was responsible for. Anything after the fact was on me, but this wasn't the agreement... I was completely on my own, in their chaotic/mentally unwell home/family, stuck in the basement trying my best to focus on the plants and not what was happening around me. **Straw That Broke the Camel's Back** October 20th was the end and I had lost all faith/hope for a positive outcome to this project and this friendship. I had estimated the dry time of two girls for Monday and instructed him multiple times via text, phone and in person, that the soil retention needed to be checked and if the moisture probe came back 1-2, we needed to feed right away (This was over 4 days and I drilled it into his head that there was no "if" but when they're dry, we need to move. I explained that we just went through hell and back, explained the aforementioned effort and time I put into these plants to get them back to where they are now and finally, that we could not afford more mistakes as the stress these girls had been put under was getting to a dangerous level. They needed care and attention from him, for once. HE AGREED! Monday morning I ask if he checked, "No, busy, will do later". Asked in afternoon, "Nope, busy will definitely do later👍. Will send pictures and updates". Nothing came in that night. A final text was sent at 7 PM when I know he's in his garage toking up, but he ghosted me. -Tuesday he contacts me and asks if I wanna hang out (He previously said he was unavailable Tuesday and he would talk to me Wednesday with an update on the girls). I go over to his house and within 3 minutes he starts directing me to the basement... ya, I saw where this was going and my anxiety spiked. Long story short, he did not check those plants over a span of the agreed upon 40hrs he had to do so. Nor had he even looked at them or been in the grow room for 48 hours (he was off work too btw...). He opens the tent and my heart sunk. Aya Purple and Gorilla were in complete shambles, wilting and actively suffering. All I could muster was "why man, just...why would you allow this?". Person 1 "I was busy/I didn't know/I don't know how"... I snapped inside but tried very hard not to show it. He wanted me to stay and feed the plants the nutrient schedule he had promised to apply 24-36 hours prior. I said no, it's too late in the day now and dropping 3 gallons of water on them, especially in this state was not a good idea. Asked him to prime the plants with 500-750ml of balanced tap to carry them into the next day where I!!!! would have to apply the new schedule (he conveniently worked the next day and couldn't do it... was busy...😭) -I let myself out very quickly and explained I was tired and had my own crap too do. I let myself calm down and then wrote a extremely civil email sharing my feelings about how things were going. I explained my mental health was not good, that our relationship was being strained, promises were not being kept and that I felt like I was being used. I pleaded once again for his help and that I couldn't do this on my own, especially with all the new projects I'm trying to get on the go for myself (which he knows is very, very important too me). I asked for accountability and for a more active roll in the process. If you think I was asking a lot, I wasn't. I asked for him to look at the plants every day, test how dry they were and report any issues. Would take all but 3-5 minutes of his time. He did not reply. -We spoke later on in the evening, but not in regards to the plants or my message, but rather, he wanted something. My dumbass decided to help them with a product return and I!!!! did an email correspondence to rectify the product issue😂😂 (Wtf is wrong with me man. That's not sarcasm. I'm a friggin push over). Anywho, I let him know I had resolved HIS issue and he was getting a new 80 dollar unit sent to his home, through me and my efforts over 4 days, hahaha. No nothing, just said "well, who's paying the shipping (5 dollars)". Do you want the free replacement I worked to get, worth 80 bucks? This actually hurt man. All that work for him to disregard the effort and bitch about 5 dollars (which he didn't have to pay for, btw...). -Next day I was tasked with feeding the girls now, as the previous day was a wash and where I asked him to Prime the soil. His spouse (Person #2) has not been mentioned throughout this yet, but trust me when I say, she is an equal road block to this project and was key in exacerbating my poor mental health and negative self esteem. Her life is chaos, simple as that. Constant case of the "Poor me's" and the world done me wrong. All negative and I would be cornered by her with relentless anger about whatever the hell she was on about that day. She was on work leave and was home alllllllllll the tiiiiiiiiiiiiime. There was no escape from her and holy shit was it anxiety inducing just walking into that house. -Whenever Person #1 deemed his feelings hurt, he wouldn't talk to me, he talked to "Person #2" who validated him and convinced him he had done no wrong and I was a super meanie. Any and all issues I brought of with Person #1 were fielded by Person #2 because he could not justify his actions and needed his SO to fight these battles (this and every other battle he faces). -Anywho, walk into the home and it was instant confrontation. Her back against the wall, tone and attitude geared up and looking for a fight. I didn't even make it to the stairs before she was yelling at me about how selfish I was, how pathetic I was, how I was the fucked up one, and on and on. You can take a wild guess about the very nice things she said to me. I tried to counter, but she likes the "whoever speaks louder is correct" tactic, so I picked up my gear and started walking out. She then screamed at me and asked where I was going, lol! She fully expected me to go to work on the plants after being verbally abused for 5 minutes😅😅. WTF! LOL! On leaving she said a few funny things to which I quipped back before shutting that door for good. "We don't know what we're doing!", "This was supposed to be FUN!" and "But we bought the equipment!". I said you're right, you don't know anything. I have spoon fed you everything you need to be successful but you rejected it. 8 weeks of extensive talks, practicum and teaching and you still don't know what you're doing? That's not on me. And is this fun for you? It must be fun watching plants grow without putting in any of the effort. How is this fun for me, going out of my way to grow your plants, in your home where I would get a 1/4 of harvest. Wooooooow, what a sweet frigging deal. You guys are so generous. Finally, yes, you bought the equipment and it's clear that's as far as you were willing to go. Anything after the fact, like the actual propagation of these plants was uninteresting to you and I see now you had expected me to do this in full, even with our prior agreements. Getting far too long and I'm gonna wrap er' up. I'm out, I have not been back and I gave up some material and equipment cause I just don't even want to see their greedy, selfish and condescending faces anymore. The plants are gone. They ostensibly stole 4 stellar plants at 7.5 weeks into Veg and ready to flip and my tents are empty... Before blocking both their numbers and email addresses, he sent one last comment that I feel bothered me the most. "We don't need you, we can figure this out ourselves". This means he was always capable, but chose to be lazy, unaccountable and useless. My final response via text was "I should hope so. I've brought them back to heath and they're on cruise control. You fuck it up, you'd have to be an idiot. And make no mistake, if you bring these to end game, they are and were never your plants. Enjoy the fruits of my labor". Done deal, blocked and no further correspondence. Conclusion: I'm very upset with myself but I'm coming to accept what has transpired and am getting back to where I! need to be. Proxy project #2 has been cancelled as well. My second friend will be receiving the specimens, but I will be freeing myself of any involvement after that. He's now on his own, just like most of us are. He will have to learn to swim or drown again. I'm saddened that I genuinely tried to pay it forward here. I wanted to spread the word locally and bring people into the fold. I had no one at the beginning and people like ROM, Larimar, Grey Wolf, Med and many others stepped up and helped me out. I wanted to take what you gave me and spread the love. My intentions were good, but the way this has played out has left me quite jaded. I will need time to trust other people looking to start growing now. I must be clear here, this is on me. I let myself be a push over, I set boundaries but did not enforce them, I did not protect my peace and mental health, leading to a dark place. I have done this before and I see myself as my own worst enemy atm. Red Flags matter. If you see them, be prepared to walk away immediately. Please don't hang on and continuously make concessions like I did. Your knowledge is valuable, and they need you, not the other way around. I'm still sitting here trying to figure out why I didn't walk away soon and permanently... Written and/or voiced contracts mean nothing. Test their willingness to grow with books and information. If they show an interest and start to catch on to the process, you may have a good growing partner. If you have what I had, with books sitting on the counter for weeks and information in texts ignored w/ no attempt to do any proactive learning, WALK AWAY! Thanks for listening to this... Ummm, I'm not going to talk about this again after these entries. I just lost 4 plants that I had a personal connection with and I need time to accept this loss. IF you want to talk in PM or the thread below however, and share your stories and or tactics to combat these peoples, please don't hesitate to do so🙏 . I feel we need to share with one another and protect each other from being hurt like this. We can pay it forward, but please beware... Turns out people are dicks(?)😂