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4 years ago
-Problem: Not sure if this is Nutrient Lockout or Nitrogen deficiency (i.e need more nutes) or Fungus (see stems) -Medium/grow method: Cloud Coco 50/50 Perlite on AutoPot - 15L pots with reservoir attached -Feed and supplements used: I have been using Jacks 3 2 1 at 60%, which is roughly 653PPM/1.3EC. I was doing 100% from late veg to week 1 flower (990PPM/1.9EC) and saw some nitrogen toxicity on one plant (dark green) so I dialed back to 60%. Also have 2ML/G of Hydro guard and no other nutrients. This is all being bottom fed through reservoir. -Water source: Tap Water - 42PPM plus Jacks 321 at 60% - currently at 653PPM -Strain and age - Seedsman Amnesia Auto (left) and Dutch Passion Think Different (middle and right). About 8 weeks in (56 days). -Climate: Day Temp (78-81, 50-60% RH), Night Temp (74-76, 45-55% RH). Res Temp (69-71) -Light used: HLG 100 (4000K) and 135v2 (80% power). All lights 24/7 around 10-15inches -Additional info: Plants have had issues for 2-3weeks. Seeing a ton of mycelium on top of medium due to stagnant air issue and Great White overuse during seed/veg. My leaves are yellow but some are turning green, which I feel is telling me they need more nutrients. I know people advise against going above 1EC but I have seen both strains handling 1.5EC and up through other diaries. Given I am in week 8, wondering if the fact that both my outside plants have yellow leaves, leaves dying on bottom, and also on top means that they need more nutrients (I know it is normal to see fan leaves turning yellow). I do see other areas that were previously yellow, turning green. This is more of the sugar leaves. However, I also think this could be nutrient lockout, as I am not seeing much more growth and I am seeing more leaves on top start to die out. All three plants are drinking the water as my tray needs to be refilled quite frequently. I am at 6.0PH and 653PPM in my reservoir and tray. My coco slurry test is showing my medium at 6.0PH and 500PPM (1.0EC) so it is close to my tray and res input. Any help identifying this is greatly appreciated.
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Grow Questions
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am noticing that all three plants have leaves that are curling down and specifically my Think Different 1 (right) is a dark green with some weird leaves. Not sure if this is pythium, nitrogen toxicity, or light heat? Anyone have any idea what this may be and what I can do?
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Leaves. Curl down
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FreshCoastOrganics
FreshCoastOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
This symptom is almost always caused by an excess of Nitrogen! Too much nitrogen causes dark green, clawing leaves and sometimes but not always burnt tips. I’d back off the nutrients and just use plain water until you see her recover a bit!
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
Seeing some leaves dying at the bottom. I have been lightly defoliating; however, being careful as I do not want stunt during flowering? Should I not defoliate at this point?
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Techniques. Defoliation
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there, You should only defoliate if there is a good reason.Like do some defoliation to lower down tent humidity,to make a good air flow if too bushy.Defoliate some leaves If they are damaged or shaded below the canopy.May be some lollipopping if there are too many pop corn buds underneath.Other than those, I wouldn’t do.Happy growing... ✌️
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am seeing a ton of mycelium on all of my autopots. Because I have a bottom feed system, it is hard to keep my top medium wet without getting mold. Is this going to effect my end result if I do not do anything about this? Should I leave it alone or put sand on it? Thanks all
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Other. Mold
Other. General questions
Setup. Ventilation
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FreshCoastOrganics
FreshCoastOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
I don't think I've ever seen that much Mycelium without mulch or purposely trying to do that! I would just leave it alone and maybe put some barley mulch on top of it. Damaging it could cause more of a problem than a solution!
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
My leaves are yellow but some are turning green. Do they need more nutrients or lockout? I have not gone above 1EC but have seen both strains handling 1.5EC+ in other diaries. All three plants are drinking the water in trays. Res/Tray@ 6.0PH/653PPM. Coco slurry @6PH/500PPM
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Leaves. Tips - Burnt
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Other. Mold
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! I think everyone missed the thing that you are growing in coco and perlite mix and not in soil. Coco is soilless media and it needs to be treated like hydro pH wise. So you need to follow the rules of hydro grow with the pH, but nothing else has to change. So the optimum pH is 5.5-6 for good nutrient uptake. You might have and pH lockout going on if you have followed soil guidelines and also I personally think that 1 Ec is actually quite low 'cos I've found that in my hydro the sweet spot seems to be ~2ec. OFC every grow setup is their own and mine does not necessarily work for you, but you could lower the pH and if that does not help, give slightly more nutes. Also coco "sucks" calcium and magnesium so you need to add those a bit more when growing in coco.
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am seeing so many of my leaves curling / dying.... I know these leaves will all get yellow towards the end of flowering but should my plants look like this at Week 9?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Dropping off
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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HighAltitudeOrganics
HighAltitudeOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
No, they should not look like that. You are either under feeding, have a nutrient lockout, or other pH related issue. You’re plants are showing some deficiencies for sure. What are your environmental conditions? If VPD is way out of line it can explain this too. So there are a number of possible causes and I don’t have nearly enough info from you to provide anything further. Good luck
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am running 4 gal autopots on 50 Coco/Perlite with Jacks 321@80% strength (800PPM), up from 650PPM previous week. Have been seeing curling and leaves dying although the bottom area is green. Res/Tray@ 6PH/800PPM. Coco slurry @6PH/800PPM. Temp 81, RH 55% Should I flush?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Mottling
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HighAltitudeOrganics
HighAltitudeOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Try dropping you pH to the low end of the recommended range (5.7) Looks like you’ve got an N lockout or some type of salt build up even though you said it’s not a bottom up yellowing issue. I would flush. Good luck
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
Should I harvest now or wait a week? Think Different Sativa is 11 wks to harvest and I am at wk 13. Still seeing new buds/pistils and straight white pistils. Around 40-50% brown hairs and cloudy trichomes but no amber. Using Coco/Perlite in 4 gallon autopot. 76F/47%RH. No flush.
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Other. Harvest - Drying
Other. Harvest - Curing
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Troy_Farms
Troy_Farmsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Flowering times and harvest time depends when the plant starts to flower. You want to give each plant a good 8 weeks flowering typically. She looks close, Will get a little more chunky but overall just gonna ripen up for a great harvest in a week or so. You should be flushing already and getting ready to harvest, but depending how heavy of a high you want you can let it go more or less. Right now Looks mostly cloudy, so you can harvest in like a week for slightly more uplifting high, or let it ripen up more and let her go for like 2 more weeks for a stronger heavier high. Analogy; Like Bananas will go from green to all yellow, (Yellow representing cloudy trichomes), then they will start to get black spots and eventually turn solid black. So people like more black dots then others. (like Amber trichomes) Ideal banana would be one with some spots but mostly yellow, right now your 'bananas' are nice pretty yellow, but would be best to let them ripen up a touch more. If that makes sense at all.
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Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 74 years ago
Happy Flowering:) @jokgga
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@Ferenc, Thank you friend!
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 84 years ago
Happy Growing @jokgga
amon_grows
amon_growscommentedweek 14 years ago
I would let it dry out a bit so that although the rockwool cube is moist, it shouldn't be heavy with water and dripping wet. Keep a humidity dome on it to maintain 80-100% humidity the first week or two. I keep a heating mat under my seedlings to make sure the base of the rockwool cubes are sleightly warm but not cooked. If your temp is 80 degrees I would try to keep it a bit lower and probably not use a heat mat if you are struggling to keep the temp below 80.
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@@amon_grows, thanks for the advice!
DreamOn
DreamOncommentedweek 94 years ago
Nice job, looks great! Good luck with the rest of the flowering and have fun! 🌱😎
Blacksheep
Blacksheepcommentedweek 94 years ago
I’ve grown Think Different 6 times. I’m currently growing 4 of them. I believe it is nut burn for sure
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@Blacksheep, Do they handle EC over 1.0 very well? Any suggestions on how to fix this? I am bottom feeding through an autopot with coco/perlite. Flushing at this point seems to be a bad idea. thanks
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 134 years ago
Enjoy ;) @jokgga
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 114 years ago
Good looking grow best of luck with the finish 🌱✌️
MasterKushOG
MasterKushOGcommentedweek 94 years ago
Looks amazing 😍 Keep going in same way 💪🏽🔥💣
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 94 years ago
Enjoy growth 🤟😎🍀
Stoner_INDICA
Stoner_INDICAcommentedweek 94 years ago
It looks beautiful👌😍
SuggaShane
SuggaShanecommentedweek 84 years ago
I wouldn’t say nute burn. I would say up your nutes back to at least 80%. I feel like it’s a deficiency.
SwedenX
SwedenXcommentedweek 74 years ago
Looking great! Nice work! Keep it up
iHateSativa
iHateSativacommentedweek 134 years ago
Happy Smoking Friend
Blacksheep
Blacksheepcommentedweek 134 years ago
Wow. What a great 1st grow. I love Dutch Passion for sure. I am currently growing several of them. I have grown think different 6 or 7 times now. Love growing it! Dutch passion has solid genetics. I’ve used them for years. Continued success!
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 124 years ago
It's going to be a nice harvest 👍 that new growth and white hairs looks to me to just be some foxtailing and of no concern. Happy Holidays Peace ✌️
heizen
heizencommentedweek 114 years ago
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.