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4 years ago
Week 9 - Day 65 - Ladies look sick and I am trying my best to get rid of any dead leaves. Given I suspected possible nutrient deficiency the last couple weeks (feeding at 550PPM / 1EC to 650PPM 1.2EC), I decided to up their nutrients to around 75% strength at 790PPM/1.6EC. I am using Jacks 3 2 1 and have seen both strains handle 1.6EC+ in other grow diaries using Coco / Perlite, so I figured this is the optimal time in flower where I would want to be at that level. Not sure if I made it worse but I am still seeing leaves dying and easily pluckable. Although, I feel the bottom half of my Seedsman Amnesia Auto and Think Different 1 have turned more of a green color. The top area is still yellow and in my Think Different 1 (right side), I am seeing curling in almost every plant (all yellow leaves and no drooping). Ironically, my Think Different 2 (middle) looks the best at a nice green color (some mag deficiency). Again not sure if this is nute burn, deficiency, fungus but I am paying these ladies are able to fatten their buds in the final weeks of flowering (I have around 2/ 3 more weeks before harvest). They are drinking through the reservoir at around 3 gallons every couple days. Any suggestions are welcome on what is going on and how to fix it. I am running this on 50/50 Coco Perlite with 4 gallon Autopot system (bottom feeding) My temps are fluctuating from 76 (night) - 84 degrees RH% is 49% (night) - 57% Problem: Not sure if this is Nutrient Lockout or Nitrogen deficiency (i.e need more nutes) or Fungus (see stems) Medium/grow method: Cloud Coco 50/50 Perlite on AutoPot - 15L pots with reservoir attached Feed and supplements used: I have been using Jacks 3 2 1 at 60%, which is roughly 653PPM/1.3EC. I was doing 100% from late veg to week 1 flower (990PPM/1.9EC) and saw some nitrogen toxicity on one plant (dark green) so I dialed back to 60% and now slowly upping to around 80%. Also have 2ML/G of Hydro guard and no other nutrients. This is all being bottom fed through reservoir. -Water source: Tap Water - 42PPM plus Jacks 321 at 60% - currently at 653PPM -Strain and age - Seedsman Amnesia Auto (left) and Dutch Passion Think Different (middle and right). About 9 weeks in (65 days). -Climate: Day Temp (78-81, 50-60% RH), Night Temp (74-76, 45-55% RH). Res Temp (69-71) - Light used: HLG 100 (4000K) and 135v2 (80% power). All lights 24/7 around 10-15inches
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Grow Questions
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am noticing that all three plants have leaves that are curling down and specifically my Think Different 1 (right) is a dark green with some weird leaves. Not sure if this is pythium, nitrogen toxicity, or light heat? Anyone have any idea what this may be and what I can do?
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Leaves. Curl down
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FreshCoastOrganics
FreshCoastOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
This symptom is almost always caused by an excess of Nitrogen! Too much nitrogen causes dark green, clawing leaves and sometimes but not always burnt tips. I’d back off the nutrients and just use plain water until you see her recover a bit!
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
Seeing some leaves dying at the bottom. I have been lightly defoliating; however, being careful as I do not want stunt during flowering? Should I not defoliate at this point?
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Techniques. Defoliation
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Burmese
Burmeseanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there, You should only defoliate if there is a good reason.Like do some defoliation to lower down tent humidity,to make a good air flow if too bushy.Defoliate some leaves If they are damaged or shaded below the canopy.May be some lollipopping if there are too many pop corn buds underneath.Other than those, I wouldn’t do.Happy growing... ✌️
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am seeing a ton of mycelium on all of my autopots. Because I have a bottom feed system, it is hard to keep my top medium wet without getting mold. Is this going to effect my end result if I do not do anything about this? Should I leave it alone or put sand on it? Thanks all
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Other. Mold
Other. General questions
Setup. Ventilation
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FreshCoastOrganics
FreshCoastOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
I don't think I've ever seen that much Mycelium without mulch or purposely trying to do that! I would just leave it alone and maybe put some barley mulch on top of it. Damaging it could cause more of a problem than a solution!
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
My leaves are yellow but some are turning green. Do they need more nutrients or lockout? I have not gone above 1EC but have seen both strains handling 1.5EC+ in other diaries. All three plants are drinking the water in trays. Res/Tray@ 6.0PH/653PPM. Coco slurry @6PH/500PPM
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Leaves. Tips - Burnt
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Other. Mold
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! I think everyone missed the thing that you are growing in coco and perlite mix and not in soil. Coco is soilless media and it needs to be treated like hydro pH wise. So you need to follow the rules of hydro grow with the pH, but nothing else has to change. So the optimum pH is 5.5-6 for good nutrient uptake. You might have and pH lockout going on if you have followed soil guidelines and also I personally think that 1 Ec is actually quite low 'cos I've found that in my hydro the sweet spot seems to be ~2ec. OFC every grow setup is their own and mine does not necessarily work for you, but you could lower the pH and if that does not help, give slightly more nutes. Also coco "sucks" calcium and magnesium so you need to add those a bit more when growing in coco.
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am seeing so many of my leaves curling / dying.... I know these leaves will all get yellow towards the end of flowering but should my plants look like this at Week 9?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Dropping off
Leaves. Color - Yellow
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HighAltitudeOrganics
HighAltitudeOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
No, they should not look like that. You are either under feeding, have a nutrient lockout, or other pH related issue. You’re plants are showing some deficiencies for sure. What are your environmental conditions? If VPD is way out of line it can explain this too. So there are a number of possible causes and I don’t have nearly enough info from you to provide anything further. Good luck
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
I am running 4 gal autopots on 50 Coco/Perlite with Jacks 321@80% strength (800PPM), up from 650PPM previous week. Have been seeing curling and leaves dying although the bottom area is green. Res/Tray@ 6PH/800PPM. Coco slurry @6PH/800PPM. Temp 81, RH 55% Should I flush?
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Leaves. Curl up
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Mottling
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HighAltitudeOrganics
HighAltitudeOrganicsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Try dropping you pH to the low end of the recommended range (5.7) Looks like you’ve got an N lockout or some type of salt build up even though you said it’s not a bottom up yellowing issue. I would flush. Good luck
jokgga
jokggastarted grow question 4 years ago
Should I harvest now or wait a week? Think Different Sativa is 11 wks to harvest and I am at wk 13. Still seeing new buds/pistils and straight white pistils. Around 40-50% brown hairs and cloudy trichomes but no amber. Using Coco/Perlite in 4 gallon autopot. 76F/47%RH. No flush.
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Other. Harvest - Drying
Other. Harvest - Curing
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Troy_Farms
Troy_Farmsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Flowering times and harvest time depends when the plant starts to flower. You want to give each plant a good 8 weeks flowering typically. She looks close, Will get a little more chunky but overall just gonna ripen up for a great harvest in a week or so. You should be flushing already and getting ready to harvest, but depending how heavy of a high you want you can let it go more or less. Right now Looks mostly cloudy, so you can harvest in like a week for slightly more uplifting high, or let it ripen up more and let her go for like 2 more weeks for a stronger heavier high. Analogy; Like Bananas will go from green to all yellow, (Yellow representing cloudy trichomes), then they will start to get black spots and eventually turn solid black. So people like more black dots then others. (like Amber trichomes) Ideal banana would be one with some spots but mostly yellow, right now your 'bananas' are nice pretty yellow, but would be best to let them ripen up a touch more. If that makes sense at all.
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Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 74 years ago
Happy Flowering:) @jokgga
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@Ferenc, Thank you friend!
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 84 years ago
Happy Growing @jokgga
amon_grows
amon_growscommentedweek 14 years ago
I would let it dry out a bit so that although the rockwool cube is moist, it shouldn't be heavy with water and dripping wet. Keep a humidity dome on it to maintain 80-100% humidity the first week or two. I keep a heating mat under my seedlings to make sure the base of the rockwool cubes are sleightly warm but not cooked. If your temp is 80 degrees I would try to keep it a bit lower and probably not use a heat mat if you are struggling to keep the temp below 80.
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@@amon_grows, thanks for the advice!
DreamOn
DreamOncommentedweek 94 years ago
Nice job, looks great! Good luck with the rest of the flowering and have fun! 🌱😎
Blacksheep
Blacksheepcommentedweek 94 years ago
I’ve grown Think Different 6 times. I’m currently growing 4 of them. I believe it is nut burn for sure
jokgga
jokggacommented4 years ago
@Blacksheep, Do they handle EC over 1.0 very well? Any suggestions on how to fix this? I am bottom feeding through an autopot with coco/perlite. Flushing at this point seems to be a bad idea. thanks
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 134 years ago
Enjoy ;) @jokgga
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 114 years ago
Good looking grow best of luck with the finish 🌱✌️
MasterKushOG
MasterKushOGcommentedweek 94 years ago
Looks amazing 😍 Keep going in same way 💪🏽🔥💣
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 94 years ago
Enjoy growth 🤟😎🍀
Stoner_INDICA
Stoner_INDICAcommentedweek 94 years ago
It looks beautiful👌😍
SuggaShane
SuggaShanecommentedweek 84 years ago
I wouldn’t say nute burn. I would say up your nutes back to at least 80%. I feel like it’s a deficiency.
SwedenX
SwedenXcommentedweek 74 years ago
Looking great! Nice work! Keep it up
iHateSativa
iHateSativacommentedweek 134 years ago
Happy Smoking Friend
Blacksheep
Blacksheepcommentedweek 134 years ago
Wow. What a great 1st grow. I love Dutch Passion for sure. I am currently growing several of them. I have grown think different 6 or 7 times now. Love growing it! Dutch passion has solid genetics. I’ve used them for years. Continued success!
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustcommentedweek 124 years ago
It's going to be a nice harvest 👍 that new growth and white hairs looks to me to just be some foxtailing and of no concern. Happy Holidays Peace ✌️
heizen
heizencommentedweek 114 years ago
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.