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AuntMeanie AuntMeanie
4 years ago
Week 6 starts 12/31/21 but I happened to notice a weird leaf the night before. The Northern Light X Blueberry auto is very dark green and has sharp downturned tips. Which starts down the rabbit hole of google search to see the cause. I decide that is is Nitrogen toxicity caused by underwatering. At this time I was not really paying attention to when I feed them just whenever the pots were light. I watered them I later realize that while it may have started with underwatering it was so many other problems at once. I forgot to check the ppm or ph going in one day last week so I checked them going out. The run off was 2700ppm and I forgot to look up what that meant. I also doubled the strength of the nutes. 1/2 Saturday I flushed all the plants with 5 gallons of fresh water each that read 6.43 ph & 51ppm. I have Fox farm sledge hammer but for some reason I decided to use just water. The run off was consistently 6.2ph and I rinsed until the ppm was about 450 on NB. 250 ppm on Gorilla Glue and Pineapple express. I then decided that since it was nitrogen toxicity from underwatering that I should not starve the plant so I gave her week 1 of flower nutrients from the Foxfarm feeding schedule at 1/2 strength. I did not use Calmag since it's nitrogen was 2 and I didn't add the boomerang because that has nitrogen as a 1 and I thought since this plant has nitrogen toxicity I should skip the extra 3 nitrogen for now. I set each plant up on blocks so air could totally circulate to dry out the pots. Turned the fans on and waited. 1/6 There has been almost no growth since the flush. NB started off at a little over 9 inches and if I stretch her she is 10 at most.
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Grow Questions
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
I had nutrient lockout due to using full strength nutes instead of 50%, after thoroughly drying pots for a week. I Flushed each plant with 5 gallons of water then I added back nutes at 50% minus calmag & boomerang Still no growth in a week and stems are wreaking, new growth twist
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Leaves. Curl down
Plant. Stem - Weak
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
Firstly, nutrient "lock out" is caused by either extreme acidity or extreme alkalinity and is a soil condition, not a nutrient problem. To many growers surprise, no doubt, nutrients only become "locked up" with acid conditions of about 4.0 and lower, or alkaline conditions of about 10.0 and up! The often quoted figure of 6.5 is about just right, but nutrient availability is almost 100% anywhere between 5.5 and 7.5 so being anal about pH is not really as critical as some people would make you believe; just google "nutrient availability and pH". Your plants to me look like they are suffering more from nutrient over load rather than anything else. I would suggest giving them just plain water until (new) growth resumes normally, then progress to feeding the quarter strength nutrients every second or third watering. The substrate needs to be moist all the way through after watering, not soggy wet or with dry patches either. This is a careful balance to maintain, but will get easier with experience. Then let the substrate dry out a while, until the top inch and a half or so is dry, before watering again. This could be anywhere between 1 and 7 days depending on temps, water requirements of your individual plants, container size, plant size, air circulation, substrate porosity, relative humidity, day length etc. You should try to make sure each time you water that there is water coming out of the bottom of the pots, otherwise there is no way of telling if water has penetrated the entire depth of the pot, this also helps prevent nutrient "salts" building up in your substrate. If your substrate is particularly dry, either from under watering or long gaps between watering, your substrate may have become "hydro phobic", meaning rather than wetting the substrate, water will just run straight through the pot with very little being absorbed. In this situation, it can help to give (for example) 2-3 litres per pot, but spread out over a couple of hours, giving 500ml every half hour x four/six times. This way some water will be absorbed before the next dose of water is given. This also allows the substrate to "swell" a little each time, therefore (eventually) preventing the water from just running straight through the pot without being absorbed. Deep watering to run off is what you should aim for rather than giving small amounts of water often. The roots on your plant will be all the way to the bottom of the pots, so unless there is run off, the roots at the bottom of the pot will remain dry, preventing root growth and hindering nutrient availability. Remember too, nutrients are water soluble, so unless the substrate is evenly moist, nutrients will be unavailable for your plants. Have a look at my diary "Holy Mackerel" / Cannabis Conundrums to see the exposed root system of a 3 week old seedling and this may give you an idea as to why deep watering is essential. So, after all this waffle - give your plants plain water until they pick up growing again, then start with quarter strength nutrients every second or third watering, until they have been happily growing for 2-3 weeks, before upgrading to half strength nutrients every second or third watering. Giving a dose of plain water between feedings will allow the plant to "scavenge" any remaining nutrients in the substrate, as well as helping to prevent nutrient salt build up in the substrate too. Hope this helps and happy growing!! ,.... Organoman. P.S. - I also would recommend giving your plants a light watering with plain water half an hour or so before feeding them with nutrients. This way your plant is fully hydrated before having to "deal with" the nutrients. This also helps with nutrient assimilation, as moist roots are better able to deal with any human made nutrients without the roots burning or suffering any other problems, if they are already pre-moistened.
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
Does it go against community standards to inbox someone who replied to a grow question? 280 characters isn't enough to describe all problems. There are so many experienced growers here that if we could actually talk back and forth it would be so helpful but I can't figure out how
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Other. General questions
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi, I have thought the same thing many times. There is the option of contacting a member via the "chat" function on each users page. It is in the top right hand corner and once you click on that, a little, itty bitty box will pop up at the lower right side of the page. After typing in your "chat", click on the paper plane to send. Hope this helps,.. Organoman.
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
Will plants that have turned dark green with clawed leaves from nitrogen toxicity turn back to a normal green color and the leaves straighten out or will it stay like this? I flushed her Jan 2 and watered her again on 1/9. She hasn't started growing yet and still dark clawed
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Leaves. Other
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Damaged leaves won't recover. Go to half strength on nutrition and check run off ph. Deep green leaves should lighten up. The darkness of green in leaves tells what your nitrogen level in plant is. Good luck and happy growing
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DreamOn
DreamOnweek 0
Good luck with the grow mate! 🌱😎
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanie
@DreamOn, Thanks
plant
plantweek 4
Nice bro, I’m sure they’ll turn out fire πŸ”₯ hope you enjoy growing autos. They grow up so quick ! 🐞
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanie
@plant, Oh and no worries on calling me Bro. I have 2 teenage sons. I get called Bro as much as I do mom LOL I read a few Gorilla Glue Auto dairies last night and several people had the same experience as you. One had pictures of the two plants next to each other and I would have never believed they were they same plant. I am starting to think my Gorilla Glue might be a boy 😭
plant
plant
@AuntMeanie,sorry for calling you bro aunty meanie πŸ™†β€β™‚οΈ Yeah they do say autos only have a certain life span but I believe that it can vary from Seed to seed. I’m growing some gorilla glue autos myself and Iv already harvested one.The other looks like it has about 3 weeks left still and there from the same seed pack. πŸ€™πŸžπŸ˜‚πŸŒ±
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanie
@plant, @plant, I hope you are right. I was looking at some other Gorilla Glue Auto dairies using the same seeds and my Gorilla glue seem like it is a week or 2 behind, which might suck since you can't make up time in auto's. Time will tell I guess πŸ˜€
DreamIT
DreamITweek 0
Enjoy Growth πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘½πŸ€ŸπŸ€
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanie
@DreamIT, Thanks
CachimboDaPaz
CachimboDaPazweek 4
they're looking pretty good....great job...keep going bro
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanieweek 0
Sorry for the late replies, it took me a bit to figure out how this website works.
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 5
Nice work mate, plant looks nice and healthy πŸ’€πŸ’ͺπŸ‘Œ keep an eye on those balls, keep cutting m away
Smokwiri
Smokwiri
@AuntMeanie, yeah AuntMeanie, the balls are male symptoms, which could lead to small flowers, which carry and spread male pollen acroos the plants. If it is a good strain that you are cultivating you could let it pollinate a couple of buds, which will produce seeds after throughout the buds on your plant, the taste will be different than normal (often a bit less potent/strong, but the taste is often developed better during seedproduction) you could end up with a bunch of seeds and some tasty weed that you never tasted before, if you don't want it, you can cut the balls of and continue towards your normal harvest. πŸ’ͺ
AuntMeanie
AuntMeanie
@Smokwiri, Are you saying I should I be cutting those off? I didn't know that. Do you think the little ball looking thing is a pollen sack? I I took a few more pictures of the area last night that I will upload but will try to get a better photo this afternoon. It's a feminized seed but I know some males or hermies can sneak in. This is probably wishful thinking but I read a few gorilla glue auto dairies last night and a few people mentioned having 2 different version of this, a faster growing and slower growing version. From comparing their pictures to my plant I feel like I have the slower growing version, so my wishful thinking is that maybe it is just a bit behind and because the plant is so incredibly dense that little ball think was just a female calyx searching for light.
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 7
nice progress, keep up the good work mate πŸ‘ŒπŸ’ͺ
MrHightimes
MrHightimesweek 5
grow grow grow your bud :P GL!!!!!
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 10
Slayin it, the best of the best.
HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 9
I hope for strong happy and healthy plants. Good luck stay safe happy growing cheers!!!
Smokwiri
Smokwiriweek 9
hey, plant is doing good, hope it continues without problems, good luck mate πŸ’ͺ