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Nirvana - Unknown
Nirvana - Unknown
Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 3-4
Main-Lining
weeks 3-4
LST
weeks 3-7
Defoliation
weeks 3-7, 9
Roots Organics Lush Soil
Grow medium
Fox Farms Happy Frog Soil
Grow medium
Vermiculite
Grow medium
18.927 l
Pot Size
Grow Conditions
Week 5
Vegetation
24.13
cm
inch
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
14+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
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tsp/gal
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LST
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Defoliation
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GardenSchool GardenSchool
4 years ago
February 9, 2021 (Week 5, Day 36): Start of week 5 of veg begins with more adjustments to the LST. Tons of stem growth, had to tie down Unknown 1 and Unknown 2's growth. The plants are almost to the outside of their pots, then I'll begin upward growth. Probably in the next few days. Gelato 1 is bushy as hell and just won't stop growing. The stems are massive. The minor nitrogen toxicity in the plants has completely subsided - no more drooping tips. Medium is still wet from yesterday. Lightly tilled the topsoil. Adjusted tent's passive intake and blocked out a heat vent in my grow room to help lower temperatures a bit; last night temperatures dipped another 2℉ further than average during lights out to 68℉. I'm now getting the 10℉ (68℉-78℉) swing I was looking for. Averaging 60% rH and 75℉. No other news today. February 10, 2021 (Week 5, Day 37): Temperature dipped another 2℉ last night to 66℉. I think this new passive intake setup is working great so far. Plants are growing like mad and look perfectly healthy. Last night I went to change the humidifier water and noticed the pre-lights out droop, so they're definitely in the rhythm now. Adjusted LST and further lowered canopy to promote flat and lateral growth. Unknown 1 is already to the outside perimeter of its pot, so it will start growing vertically now. Gelato 1 isn't far behind Unknown 1, another day or so and it will be ready to stretch. Unknown 2 is a little shorter than the other two plants but I think that's just due to the difference in strain at this point. Since it's a little more squat I will let it grow vertically as soon as I let Gelato 1 go. I'll just have to make sure its bud sites are getting appropriate light and air through flower. Medium is still moist - lightly tilled topsoil. Averaging 60% rH and 74℉. Happy hump day, friends! 🐫 *PM Update: While changing the humidifier this evening I noticed a tragedy unfolding. Unknown 2's main stem has split in half. It has always been the runt out of the three plants, but this seems bad. I have added a grow question asking for advice and seeing if what I've done is adequate. I tied the stem back together in a cross-hatch with garden tie and then used a zip-tie to cinch the stem back together. I don't know what I've done wrong, but I am guessing this strain doesn't take well to high stress training like I've been doing. The other plants are much hardier. I will try to find a good veg stage vitamin-B supplement for my next grow to aid with stem growth. What a sad day. February 11, 2021 (Week 5, Day 38): 12-hours after Unknown 2's stem split in half and it appears my repair is working. The plant looks just as healthy as it was without any drooping or shock, so it still seems to be thriving. I'm glad the split happened on the runt and not on one of the other plants. The other plants look great and are plugging right along. Gelato 1 is so damn leafy it just doesn't quit. Starting to notice staggered node development on Unknown 1 and Gelato 1, so these plants are definitely at maturity now. I think another week in veg will do. Didn't adjust any LST this morning as I am going to start transitioning to vertical growth now (and I'm also now terrified of splitting another main stem). Medium is still slightly moist. Tilled half-inch of top soil. It's pretty cold here right now and the tent dipped to 64℉ last night. That's about as low as I want to go, so hopefully it will stay between 64℉ and 68℉ nightly. Averaging 60% rH and 73℉. Nothing else for today. February 12, 2021 (Week 5, Day 39): Watered with nutrients today; 4 liters per plant 5.7 pH + 2ml/l pH Perfect Grow + 2ml/l pH Perfect Bloom + 1ml/l Cal-Mag Plus. Plants are looking perfectly healthy. Time to juice and see what happens. Unknown 2 doesn't seem to be affected at all by the stem splitting. My repair seems to be holding for now. Starting to see the growth sites pop up vertical on all the plants. Hopefully we'll see plenty of vertical growth over the next several days. Averaging 60% rH and 74℉. February 13, 2021 (Week 5, Day 40): Plants are looking good this morning. Vertical growth looks good and the growth sites are becoming more obvious. Soil is still wet this morning. Haven't adjusted LST in two days now. Hopefully this growth keeps up and we can switch to flower in the next week or so. Averaging 60% rH and 72℉. Nothing else to report today. February 14, 2021 (Week 5, Day 41): Medium is still wet this morning. Tilled half inch of top soil. Saw about another half inch of vertical growth overnight. Unknown 1 is leaving the other plants in the dust now. It's lanky and wants to stretch. It's also starting to get interesting coloration on its main stem near the base; like purple-red veins. Gelato 1 is just a mess of leaves. The base has the diameter of a quarter, it's huge. Interestingly, it is also starting to smell very sweet and creamy already. I have a feeling it's going to reek. I'm trying not to defoliate until I get more vertical growth. All these leaves seem to have air and light so I don't see any reason to get rid of them yet. Averaging 60% rH and 74℉. Happy Valentine's day, everyone! 😍 February 15, 2021 (Week 5, Day 42): Plants were starting to stack leaves so I defoliated each plant today by taking the second nodes on the top and bottom sets of growth stems, leaving the left and right growth stems with all their nodes. After the haircut the plants look great. Medium is partly-dry. I'll let it go for another day and water tomorrow. I readjusted the LST by removing the first set of braces and adjusted each branch so it produces a completely flat canopy. So far Unknown 1 is the lankiest plant and is about half an inch ahead of the others. The growth I am seeing is amazing. The stems are very healthy as are the leaves. Seems to be growing about half and inch or so of stem per 24 hour period. This should mean one more week of veg and then I will switch to a 12/12 lighting cycle. Next week I'll let these plants grow vertically and Monday night (February 22) will be its first night of 12/12. I'll only change this plan if I don't see enough vertical growth. I am dealing with relatively limited space, so I have to make sure I keep these plants under control in anticipation for the flowering stretch. Gelato 1 is seriously starting to smell amazing - it is throwing 4-5 pre-flowers at every single node and it is filling my grow room with a sweet creamy scent. The other plants have pre-flowers as well but nothing to the extent of Gelato 1. Averaging 60% rH and 72℉. Because I am seeing drastically lower temperatures, I'll lower the humidity to 55% next week and keep it there until mid to late flower. One more week of veg and onto the next adventure: flowering! So excited! See you next week! πŸ‘½
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Grow Questions
GardenSchool
GardenSchoolstarted grow question 4 years ago
In the last 24-hours all three of my plants have started to show signs of blotchy/irregular colored leaves. When I touch the blotches they are crisp to the touch. I have a really cheap pH meter, and I've been feeding at 6.5 pH. Is this a pH issue?
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Weezy90
Weezy90answered grow question 4 years ago
Hoi! Dit soort vlek heeft inderdaad te maken met ph-problemen. Ik zou voeden met een iets lagere ph. Controleer uw waarde in de grond. Hoe is de afvoer na uw watergift? Je lichtcyclus staat ook op 24/0, het zijn fotoperiode planten en dus moeten ze nog een lange tijd doorgaan. Verminder dit naar 20/4 of 18/6. Elke plant heeft nood aan duisternis om zich goed te kunnen ontwikkelen. 🌱
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Ferenc
Ferencweek 7
Happy Flowering @GardenSchool
Ferenc
Ferenc
@GardenSchool,πŸ˜‡
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Ferenc - Thanks - really excited to see what these things produce! Take it easy! 😸
homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 3
Good luck with your grow mate!πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Thanks! I think I'm gonna need it! πŸ‘»
Levi_Grows
Levi_Growsweek 1
Hey man! Looking good so far mate. I have just finished up my gelatos and they're currently hanging out to dry, they look and smell beautiful 😍 sure you will have fun with her! Good luck with her and the rest in your mix! Happy Growing dude! πŸ™ƒπŸ™‚πŸ™ƒπŸ™‚
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Very nice! I was just looking over your grow yesterday trying to get an idea of what to expect. Super excited to see how she develops! Best of luck with the rest of drying and curing - hopefully she smokes as good as she looks! πŸ’ͺ
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 11
Looking fantastic πŸ‘Œ spread them girls open and get a bowl frosted cereal in the middle! Good luck and happy growing πŸ€™in a week or two I'll be chopping down my sour jack and moving the gelato in, I can't wait! How are they smelling?
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83
@GardenSchool, that's awesome I love strong terps!
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Good luck with the harvest! The smell is overwhelming. It's cutting through the carbon filter. They're pretty unique!
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 8
They are really coming along nicely man πŸŒ±πŸ‘Š
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrust
@GardenSchool, Yeah man that's when the magic starts 😁 Peace
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Inganjawetrust - Thanks! Hoping to see some flowers emerging soon! 😸
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 6
Plants are looking great 🌱🌱🌱 awesome job for your first attempt πŸ‘ ✌️
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrust
@GardenSchool, Yeah my only regret is not starting years ago. Peace
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Inganjawetrust - Thanks! Loving this hobby so far - super rewarding!
Plexi1000
Plexi1000week 15
You made it to the end! They look delicious!! Nice work!
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Thank you! Can't wait to try the end product!
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 10
The girls are looking good πŸŒ±πŸ‘
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Inganjawetrust - Thanks! They're definitely coming along! 😁
hazyvonne
hazyvonneweek 6
Your girls are looking great! Love all the detail you're putting in here. Great job, so far!
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@hazyvonne - Thanks! Having a lot of fun especially with the training! Best of luck to you in flower! 🌱🐸
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 5
Binder clip brilliance
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Thumbnail83 - Haha it's such a cheap and easy training method! Highly recommended! πŸ˜…
Plexi1000
Plexi1000week 3
Looks good to me.😺 I had the same pH experience w/ happyfrog on my GG4 grow - and did same as you are doing to react. I orig watering ~6.6ph in veg and ended up having to bring it down to 6.0-6.3pH through most of flower to keep the pH down. (Runoff was typically 0.4 higher than what went in). Got a little dicey right at the end (was just flushing then so maybe ran out of nutrients in the soil or whatever that last week) and had to increase ph last week. Love the detailed notes you share.πŸ˜ƒ Hey. You think you got enough light for flower? The 600W LED is like 130W actual power draw I think. I grew 2 years ago and plants stretched like crazy (2 plants) when I only had a similar setup.. I've been using the 35-40w(actual) LED watts/sqft formula for flower since then; You think you can keep them packed close enough together or you think a different formula?
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
@Plexi1000 - Yeah I am trying my best to keep an eye on the pH now - it definitely took me by surprise. pH is still reading a little high so I might lower even more to a ~5.8 pH solution. Thanks πŸ‘» - I am trying to keep sufficient notes on here so I can refer back to it in future grows if I need to. There's a lot of knowledge and it's fun to experiment with different setups. Thinking about doing some auto flowers next go. As for my light, I actually don't have the right light indicated on this diary - which I didn't know until you pointed this out, I'll change it now. I am using a Bloom Plus LED with ~320W of actual power draw which puts me at ~40W/ftΒ². I haven't had a harvest yet with this light, but I am hoping it does the trick this first run. So far though this light seems really strong and I haven't been getting much stretch out of the plants at all luckily. Not to mention the plants have seemed to grow very fast. Happy growing, man! πŸ‘½
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 3
Check out a guy by the name Harley Smith with npk University I learned alot watching all his classes. Watchin you close! 😁 my gelato are doing nice day 9 or something close.
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Nice thanks for the suggestion I'll check him out. The learning process with these plants is never-ending! Just when you think you know what you're doing your plants start throwing a tantrum. Makes it a lot of fun to chase down problems, solve them, and then learn from them. Excited to compare our grow experiences. Take it easy. πŸ‘½
GuerrillaNo_4
GuerrillaNo_4week 2
How do you have unknown strains? Freebies?
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Yeah they were freebies! I ordered my seeds right around Christmas and Nirvana sent me a free holiday pack of five unknown feminized seeds. Was quite generous of them. Super stoked to see how they turn out! 😸
hazyvonne
hazyvonneweek 2
They are looking good and healthy. Looking forward to seeing them grow up :)
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Indeed! Happy growing! 😸
Thumbnail83
Thumbnail83week 2
Looking good, so glad I found this site, I look forward to cross examination to see potential improvements and things to avoid. Happy growing 😁 I'm 60 hrs in and three are emerging!
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Likewise! I've been stalking as many Nirvana grows as I can and they all seem to have super strong genetics from what I can tell. I'll be curious to see how our grows compare! Best of luck to you, man!πŸ‘½
DreamIT
DreamITweek 2
Enjoy growth mate πŸ€ πŸ‘ŠπŸ€
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Thanks! Really enjoying the process so far!
Inganjawetrust
Inganjawetrustweek 1
Good luck with your grow 🌱
GardenSchool
GardenSchool
Thanks, man!