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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/317W
Custom
Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/400W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
HST
weeks Technique
Defoliation
weeks Technique
19 L
Pot Size
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Week 1. Vegetation
7 years ago
5.08 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
5.8
No Smell
55 %
19 °C
1 L
0 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 2.5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.479 mll
Lithium OG Kush, by Nirvana. The best anti-depressant strain I've ever encountered, past SSH and blue dream. One puff off the vape turns a terrible day into a happy, productive one. Not going to top these, just going to 90* them. Will plant off-center. Already doing LST to prepare, will try to be on top of HST timing as the plants grow. 7/8 germed, I blame myself for not noticing the 2L bottle planter didn't have holes drilled into it, kept the puck super wet. Shame. Here's to hoping I can get them good and huge before I need to finish them to keep the perpetual harvest rolling! If there's extra space because I couldn't ridic veg these, I will fill it with other plants -- and not add them to the grow.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7 years ago
10.16 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
5.8
No Smell
60 %
19 °C
1 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 2.5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.479 mll
So I hurt one during transplant, forgot to plant it offset, had the root ball in my hands and panicked. Went from first place "probably going to be the one I keep as a mother" to dead last to get potentially culled. Reduced Rhizo to 4ml due to shortage. Trying to let the bags dry out, I had to prep them shortly before I planted so I didn't have a dry pot to only wet the transplant bit in. Will begin watering in an arc outside the rootball. Will reduce light height to 24" and then likely to 20".
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Week 3. Vegetation
7 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
60 %
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
LST tiedowns. HST on main stem. Vegging, removing top/bottom nodes as they come. Getting ready for the flower tent. Lots of foliar with weak canna, rhizo, calmag, armorsi.
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Week 4. Vegetation
7 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
60 %
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
Pictures directly post trim/LST. Got some slasher victims today. The one in particular, but a few of them, I got a bit overzealous. I think they'll be fine; despite cutting them down to too-few leaves, the leaves that are gone were all shade/suckers. Assuming they recover fine, none of it should affect the crop negatively. The other couple that are asymmetrical, I accidentally cut them due to the pruning scheme... only to find out that they were actually going to be oriented a different way once the plant vegged out a bit. This actually is less than the last couple crops I 90-degree trained. It can be hard to predict. In order to avoid the thin colas I've experienced in the past, I'm going to be trying removing more of the bottom most nodes of *every* cola, not just the mains. Cutting the "sucker" nodes when they're still tiny should eliminate wasted growth, but it can be hard to tell precisely how things are going to turn out. They're transplanted off-center (though closer to center than I'd like in many cases), and I'm watering on the far side to encourage the root mass. When they fill the pot with roots, I'll just water.
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Week 5. Vegetation
7 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
60 %
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
Lot of real heavy IRL issues with family, if you didn't see my other diaries. Didn't turn out the lights, just snapped a few mid-trim. Last couple not trimmed yet. Forgot to move the lights down from 24" to 20" weeks ago, thought I had already done it. Did that immediately, doesn't impact this week's entry. Trimming them because I'm going to chuck 4-6 of them, minus whichever I select to be a mother, into 5 gallons. If the small ones don't fit, I'm culling them (or the unpictured medical clone taking up the corner). After a bit, I will tie them down, give them another week or two, then flip them. Still not sure on timeline, my perpetual harvest got a bit weird.
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Week 6. Vegetation
7 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
11 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
Pics right after LST. Transplanted, puck offset to center, to 5 gallon pots. Foliar. Recovered. LSTed the main stem to level repeatedly. Foliar. Recovered. Tied the main stems down. Tried to get them aligned. Foliar. Recovered. Tied the limbs down. Have attempted to mitigate any asymmetry. Foliar repeatedly. Recovering. Doubled down on rhizo, watered with a full seedling 15ml dose and have been using 8-12. Watering all on the far side of the pot from where the puck is. The mother looks better than any of them in her 3 gallon; having this strain available perpetually will serve me quite well. Have been mixing foliar with max silica instead of half. Haven't seemed to burn, have noticed a lot darker coloration. Lots of rhizo in the foliar also seems to pay off, despite the expense. They have until my CBD crops finish and I will move them to 400w COBs at 12/12.
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Week 7. Vegetation
7 years ago
7.62 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
19 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
Waiting on new equipment, etc for flip. Should be quite ready. Trying to fill the bags with feeder roots as much as possible before-hand. Still giving extra root stuff, as I haven't discovered any roots coming out of the far side of the bottom of the bag. Had my pH meter break so they only got like one feed in the last several days. Will rectify tomorrow.
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Week 8. Vegetation
7 years ago
12.7 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
19 °C
19 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 1.876 mll
New digital timers, stepping down to 20 hours then 2 hour increments down to 12. Continuing to top tertiary branches at the first node instead of removing them or leaving them. Hoping to end up with dense, spherical nugs near the bottom of the colas, instead of lanky sucker branches. Have neglected to lower lamp from 24" down to 20". Will rectify. Unless I forget =P
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Week 9. Vegetation
7 years ago
12.7 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
19 °C
19 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 2.272 mll
Tapered down to 12/12 two hours at a time. Been stretching a few days, no pistils. Will count as flowering once it shows pistils well. Increased feed to match stretch on the Canna light feed schedule. Have defoliated in waves in preparation.
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Week 10. Vegetation
7 years ago
12.7 cm
24 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
19 °C
19 L
0 L
60.96 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 2.272 mll
Still no pistils. Have tightened the LST ties repeatedly, and as aresult filled out the 5 gallons. Kinda wish I had time to re-veg them and do the stretch again. Next few weeks might produce a bit more vertical, even given the exposed node count. Crowded, but nowhere near as crowded as usual. Most of the crowding nodes seem like they will make good dense buds. Still waiting to see how topping branches to the first node works out. Have had to trim some of them for obcvious crowding reasons, but frankly seems like less wasted growth than inches of sucker branch.
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Week 11. Flowering
7 years ago
12.7 cm
24 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Weak
50 %
19 °C
19 °C
19 L
0 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 2.272 mll
Pistils! Still fed stretch level nutrients, waiting for full pom-poms to move up to post-stretch feed schedule. Pruned nodes, particularly those liekly useless... many of the vertical nodes id attempted to spare by only topping them had to go anyways. still not doing so bad on growth being wasted at all. 5 gallon bag had a good chance to fill out after all, lets see how this does. Hoping for nothing but colas, dense and well shaped. Some are sparse in the middle, but still hopefully yield will do well.
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Week 12. Flowering
7 years ago
17.78 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
50 %
19 °C
19 L
0 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 5
Armor Si - Terra Aquatica
Armor Si 5 mll
CALiMAGic  - Terra Aquatica
CALiMAGic 4 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 2.272 mll
Pistil development good. Starting to get an odor I can detect over the filters. Otherwise quiet on this grow, just giving it it last few foliars before I quit and making sure the ties are tight and everything is defoliated. Bonus shots are of a Medical Mass clone in a 2 gallon, and the mutant 00S Norhtern Lights in a 1 gallon. They share the tent but are not in the grow.
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Week 13. Flowering
7 years ago
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
50 %
19 °C
19 L
0 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 3
Molasses 3.963 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 3.434 mll
CANNA Coco B - Canna
CANNA Coco B 3.434 mll
Feeding at least a few feeds at full shedule "normal" feed instead of "light" schedule, during main flower. No PK or boost, so this seems safe for a few feeds. Seems to be working, they were a bit deficient on the light schedule from time to time. Discontinued Rhizo and silica, unless the heat gets out of control. Silica is a pain to balance, I really love it and all but... I've also had buds that were really hard to grind lol. Sometimes you need the stuff whn it's hot. Bonus pics of the tentmate clone RQS Medical Mass and oddjob mutant 00S NL.
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Week 14. Flowering
7 years ago
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Normal
50 %
19 °C
19 L
0 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 3
Molasses 3.963 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 3.434 mll
CANNA Coco B - Canna
CANNA Coco B 3.434 mll
Still eyeballing the molasses and nothing else not even ph up or down it comes to straight up 5.8-6.0 (too much will make it much lower but still). I cut them for shade a week ago a week late, which was dumb. Due to this, during my pruning I have cut away for airflow -- very different pruning. Together, this has left them low on leaves, trying to remember not to prune until its defoliation time. No burnt tips at full normal Canna schedule strength *yet*. On this, as well as my vegging plants, I had been having less vigor and more lime instead of lush green -- upped from light schedule to normal and seems to have fixed. I might be overfeeding now and mistaken, but until I get sign I will continue with the nutrient schedule every other day. M<aybe my cutting out the other additives means the PPM isnt too high? I have very clean water.
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Week 15. Flowering
7 years ago
12 hrs
25 °C
5.8
Strong
50 %
19 °C
19 L
0 L
50.8 cm
Nutrients 3
Molasses 1.981 mll
CANNA Coco A - Canna
CANNA Coco A 3.698 mll
CANNA Coco B - Canna
CANNA Coco B 3.698 mll
Close-ups this week. Best I can get with my tremors and crap phone. Increased feed from 13ml to 14ml, which is normal strenght peak. The other tents seem to be appreciating the full strength canna formula over the light schedule as well. Still feeding molasses early, it has vitamins and i want these babies sweet like candy. Not sure full reccomended time schedule for this but I've heard all flowering -- and noticed that only a few weeks before harvest gives less effect. This strain is delicious, not stinging on the molasses. Lemon diesel. Already stinking good in a room running two 6" canmax w/ 6" carbon filters. Continued fery light defoliation for airflow only. Holding off.
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toaster37
toaster37commentedweek 97 years ago
Do you have a tutorial on you training technique anywhere?
Black_Magic
Black_Magiccommented7 years ago
@Jaindoh,I wanted to ask you about it , but like I see some one already did
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@toaster37, yeah but usually i just pinch it until i feel it gives way, if it needs to be tied it gets tied... i don't usually try to get it to break all the way. i have been going with "heavy LST, light HST" as the mantra. if you find the pics of that big CBD Crew plant, you might be able to tell -- you could actually see my fingerprints on the manifold in white against the black/purple.
toaster37
toaster37commented7 years ago
@Jaindoh, Thank you! When you say HST, do you mean supercropping, i.e. pinching the stem until it cracks, then bending over?
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toaster37
toaster37commentedweek 67 years ago
Have you grown any auto strains with good anti depressant effects?
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@toaster37, i am just about to take pictures for the week 1 update for my 00 NL, ironically enough. my next purchase will definitely include blue dream cbd, most likely humboldt seed org despite their expense.
toaster37
toaster37commented7 years ago
@Jaindoh, Thanks for the tips! I deal with anxiety and depression, too. The PB&J of mental health issues :/. I have a NL by 00 seeds drying right now, I have also heard that it is good for anxiety. I am planning some blue dream for my next grow, and I will look into your recommendations for the future.
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@toaster37, not as of yet though i did have very good anti-anxiety effects off WorldofSeeds Northern Lights x Big Bud Ryder, which I'd reccomend highly overall. I've seen good things with blue dream and silver haze, other people swear by sour diesel or og kush, all available in autos. Best I can do, I swore off autos after the third crop that took just as long if not longer than a photo grow.
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969commentedweek 117 years ago
Dude this looks friggen crazy! You're mainlining right?
PussyWagon6969
PussyWagon6969commented7 years ago
@Jaindoh, damn that’s amazing how symmetrical you got it with LST and pruning!
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@PussyWagon6969, na 90 degree LST and selective node pruning those are the mains flush with the coir
bobo420
bobo420commentedweek 47 years ago
Coming along nicely ;)
bobo420
bobo420commented7 years ago
@Jaindoh, nice plan ;)
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@bobo420, Good to hear from you! Yeah I wasn't happy that I rushed too much during the pruning. Goofed up, lost some colas, probably stunted some veg growth. Philosophy so far is that I have too many plants. To try to slow down any more than I do, I can't really do. I need to kind of just go prune on autopilot and then make THAT perfect... That being said, I am still happy. My plan now is to transplant them into 5 gallons. If they get big enough in the 5 gallons, I may be able to both keep a mother and cull a runt or even two.
Black_Magic
Black_Magiccommentedweek 147 years ago
Jon you didn’t top or fim them ? Only hst and lst ?
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@TomatoloverBoy, yup the main stem is laying flat
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 127 years ago
Looks good 👍🏼
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@ChefDan420, Thanks! they filled out their colas in a way im happy with just now to see how they mature into this shape. The most mature one has some really killer pistils, if I feel up to it I will go in for some closeups on the next update =)
TheOutlawBubbaKush
TheOutlawBubbaKushcommentedweek 107 years ago
Amazing training! loving those bonsai trunks. Thicc. Have you looked into the training technique called "Mainlining". It's similar but splits the plant into 2 halfs (topping), then each half can be grown at 90* like yours.
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@TheOutlawBubbaKush, yeah this is the technique i use on short to medium plants that aren't really tall enough to want to mainline. it's a hassle but it's either that or something a lot more sloppy. I utilize a lot of the same rules about which nodes to keep. It's a lot more iffy, though, as you end up with branches twisting due to training. This one's very experimental with the "top all the tertiary branches you find, instead of leaving or removing them", but seems to have filled out well. All of the smaller crowded nodes are much less crowding than branches would be.
JemGreen
JemGreencommentedweek 17 years ago
What makes you say OG Kush is such a good antidepressant? We’ve got some growing and using it for depression and anxiety is exactly what I’m interested in.
Jaindoh
Jaindohcommented7 years ago
@JemGreen, Lithium OG Kush is actually Nirvana's OG Kush crossed with their Master Kush. I believe there's a particular pheno or two involved in the cross. I grew these twice before and loved the uplifting effects. From the old Nirvana ad copy and current Seedsman ad copy for this strain: "The effect is at once uplifting and euphoric in nature explaining its therapeutic use as a natural anti-depressant with anti-anxiolytic qualities to banish anxiety."
Joni2017
Joni2017commentedweek 137 years ago
Nice flowers👏🏻👏🏻 great work 😉👍
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 127 years ago
Noticed thick structure, looks very strong 💪
iHateSativa
iHateSativacommentedweek 107 years ago
looks good
bobo420
bobo420commentedweek 27 years ago
Good luck with the grow ;)
Dahoola
Dahoolacommentedweek 17 years ago
good luck with your grow!
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