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Messypies
Messypiesstarted grow question 5 years ago
Hi all. I'm struggling to shift a lockout in my plants. They are about 35-40 days till harvest showing signs of cal mag def. Added calmag, problem progressed so looking more at a lockout. Ph in is 6.5, run off was 5.6. Apparently soil run off is unreliable i have been told ?
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Leaves. Dropping off
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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Messypies
Messypiesanswered grow question 5 years ago
Completely agree @Nobody01 The plant itself other than that seems to be doing okay. The smell does seem to be increasing every day. They are getting more frosty also. I initially started the grow up to day 25 without any nutrients at all, just plain tap water. Ph'd to 6.5 they showed signs of decent growth until some orange rust spots started appearing. Reading online led me to the cal mag issue so have been using 1ml/l of cal mag. It was at this point I realised that I have quite soft water. Reading online again said I would need to include cal mag with every feed to compensate. I then also read that you shouldn't ph adust your nutes if using soil as the soil acts as a buffer. I think i have messed up the ph of the medium by using ph down, and using advanced nutrients. I think my next grow will be a coco/ perlite mix so I can control exactly what goes in
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 5 years ago
Looking rough.. ride it out because you are so close... if canopy completely dies off, pay attnetion to how the plant is drinking.. if it just stops or nearly stops, it'slikely dead, lol. I would keep going as long as you see development and you don't see it rot on the branch. smell will be a big key to use as an indicator too. The plant won't last long if there isn't enough green. As long as some exists, it's got energy to develop still. how many days beyond ? no idea, lol. check smell, chekc for rot... check for development, and take it day by day... looks like you have some time left. If runoff is 5.6, it could be even more acidic than that. Ease off on nutes.. east off on cal-mag, if you've been giving it, it clearly isnt the solution. ca and mg deficiencies can be caused by P/K toxicities too.. as well as pH issues... adding a bunch of cal-mag could have potentially made it worse. always be certain before you add things.. always better wait and see. ensure to eliminate other possibilities before doing anything that involves putting stuff into your susbstrate or reservoir.
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Messypies
Messypiesanswered grow question 5 years ago
Many thanks @Williamrainx37 After looking this up, dampening appears to be an infection which starts from a young seedling. I didnt have any problems with these until the introduction of the Advanced nutrient range, plus this is affecting all 3 of my plants in the same way. This would point me more towards a lockout rather than dampening. Bud production is still happening and I believe the plants are currently using the nutrients built up in their leaves as they seem to try and negate the lockout. I maybe wrong however. In that case , bugger!
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Messypies
Messypiesanswered grow question 5 years ago
Just to add These are grown in plant magic soil (uk) using advanced nutrients @1ml/l every other watering. I believe the problem has started from me manually adjusting the ph of the nuterient solution at the beginning of the grow with ph up/down. I believe AN's PH perfect tech is interfering with the buffering agent in the soil and causing a lockout. After reading online, I attempted to flush using tap water (which has a ph of 7) to try to balance the medium again. Im not sure if testing run off in soil is even accurate however. This was my first grow and ill be starting a new batch with a coco and perlite mix with suitable nutes for my next one but I'm just wondering if these will even survive ? There still seems to be bud production and tricomes but not sure if this is just going to stop dead at some point Many thanks x
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williamrainx37
williamrainx37answered grow question 5 years ago
Its called dampening when the stem closes not alowing any more water and nutrients to continue to flow up to the leaves. Remove infected plants immedialty as there is almost no saving them after the collapse has taken place. Hope this helps.
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