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Can males revert back into veg?

cheetah844
cheetah844started grow question 2 years ago
Can males revert back to veg if they are already in the flowering stage?
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 2 years ago
Once males fully flower they will not revert back into vegetive growth, no matter how much light you give them, they seem more delicate than females and more final with their flowering, that is, once they flower, that is it. You don't need to keep a male going for breeding experiments, just collect the pollen from harvested flowers - let the flowers dry, remove any green matter from the dropped pollen, leaving behind only yellow pollen/powder, then let dry again, just the pollen for about a week in the dark, place it in an airtight container in a dark and cool spot like a cupboard and it will last at least 6 months or more for any future breeding projects. I find using ceramic bowls the best for collecting pollen, it sticks to plastic too much. Chop the male flowers into short pieces and just leave them laying in the bowls in a dark cupboard and after 5 days or so they will have opened and released any pollen. I grow all my males outdoors during winter and then use the pollen for summer breeding projects 4-5 months later with 100% fertilization rates and have been doing this for years already. Just do not put the pollen in the fridge or freezer, this will destroy it. Since it takes only one pollen grain to fertilize a female flower, you can mix the pollen with (corn) flour to exrend it, this is handy if you only have a small amount of pollen, in ratios up to 50:1, but I prefer one third pollen and two thirds flour and this works just fine. Pick a still evening and apply the pollen mixture with a small paint brush and don't use Q-tips, the pollen sticks to it and not the pistils! Best time to fertilize is quite early in the flowering cycle, as soon as the female flowers have formed small tufts/budlets with 100% white pistils. The seeds take 4-5 weeks to mature and when they are ready, the calyxes will split open to reveal the shiny brown seed inside. One branch of moderate length pollinated this way will produce 100-300 seeds easily. The beauty of this method is that the base of the flowers will be seeded, while the top four fifths of the flower will be seedless, making them much more smokeable, rather than pollinating later on and ending up with fully seeded buds and more seeds than you can poke a stick at! (Ask me how I know!) Believe it or not, seeding buds early like this can help prevent hermaphroditism in cannabis, as the hormones associated with seed production "trick" the plant into "thinking" there is no need to ever grow male flowers. Be warned though, creating your own strains is addictive! However, you then have to make the effort to grow your own strains and not just rely on the feminized seeds you bought! Hope this helps, Organoman.
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 2 years ago
Yes they are dependent on light hours so you can reveg a male.
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gREEn7o0
gREEn7o0answered grow question 2 years ago
Outdoor photo period life cycles are usually strain and phenotype dependent in my experience. The earlier in the season a strain flowers the less likely it is the strain will revert to veg with 14 hr light. I've only grown outdoors a few times and have seen strains act differently. While one may flower with only 10 hour dark period, others can get away with less while some needed more. I think with outdoor it has more to do with the plant realizing days are getting shorter. But if it was flowering on 12/12 before you took it outdoor I'm not sure how it will react. I'm not sure how long the male plant will continue to flower for, I'm sure it has a finite life cycle. Probably strain dependent as well. Once he has completed his mission to spread pollen for as long as he was meant to he'll probably change to fall/autumn colours and die off.
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cheetah844
cheetah844answered grow question 2 years ago
I'm not looking to re-veg, I'm wanting to make sure he'll continue to release his full potential of pollen outdoors with about 13hrs of daylight. How many hours of daylight can he receive before he reverts back to veg? For females over 14hrs will keep her in veg, but she grows flowers - males grow faster & have 'sacs' a little different than the process of a female. I was wondering what to expect with males getting close to 14hrs of daylight after he's already been flowering for weeks...
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
yes
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gREEn7o0
gREEn7o0answered grow question 2 years ago
I did some more reading.. it seems sone strains have issues revegging males. I have only tried it once, and had success so I assumed it was just like females. But wanted to correct my earlier post changing my yes, to a sometimes.
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cheetah844
cheetah844answered grow question 2 years ago
Okay - thank you. So he'll just release less pollen as daylight increases. I should be fine pollinating outdoors early spring when daylight will be at around 13hrs then. (I start males indoors during the winter & put outside to flower & collect pollen very early spring after frost)
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gREEn7o0
gREEn7o0answered grow question 2 years ago
Yes, they can re veg, but they will still have flowers with pollen being produced as they veg, like the female plants have calyxes that form as they veg. It won't have full blown flower clusters, but he will still drop some pollen in veg.
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