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@Bluemels
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Was soll ich sagen, ich habe den Grow abgebrochen, es schien mir nicht sinnvoll weiter auf Besserung zu warten. Ich starte mit neuen Samen.
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@Wenz004
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Reifung schreitet voran. Trichome schau ich mir erst Ende der nächsten Woche an.
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Lol the plant exploded and I didnt know what to do 😅
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02/03/2022 Bottom deposit has dropped 3 to 4 liters, again. pH was up to 6.2 and EC has dropped to 1.5 (I guess they consume well the nutrients, if it was only evaporation EC should rise). I decide to wait tomorrow to refill and adjust, pH will rise probably to 6.4. I have now some doubts on the remaining space to rise up the light and defoliation of the bottom of the plant. 28/02/2022 Back from WE, everything fine, good smell already. Bottom deposit dropped 4L, pH up to 6.3 Ec dropped to 1.35. I just lowered the pH to 5.8 and tomorrow I fill again the bottom tank and adjust nutrients to 1.7 again. 26/02/22 Tank filled. Adapt nutrients solution to 1.7 EC then wait 24h, bottom solution dropped to 1.5 EC, set pH to 5.8. Will leave for 2 days and not attended... so that would be surprise to see Monday night how pH and EC have evolved!
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@Borberad
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Die Ernte ist trotz der an den Schimmel verlorenen Buds mehr als ausreichend gewesen. Der Geruch in der letzten Woche war sehr intensiv gasig.
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Bubble OG Gum auto is doing good. She had a solution change yesterday. The colas have a nice frost on them already. Things are looking really good. Thank you Spider Farmer, Athena, and Ganja Farmer. 🤜🏻🤛🏻🌱🌱🌱 Thank you grow diaries community for the 👇likes👇, follows, comments, and subscriptions on my YouTube channel👇. ❄️🌱🍻 Happy Growing 🌱🌱🌱 https://youtube.com/channel/UCAhN7yRzWLpcaRHhMIQ7X4g
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Big Jack widow grew great, and finish fast. She has some great frosty purple hues in her dense colas. The Viparspectra P4000 light worked great. I am Cutting her down, and will try to post a video here, but if it does not take it. The video can be found on my YouTube channel, link below. I learned a lot about the quality of water, and treating it properly this grow. So far roots on other grows has been great. This grow was saved by it just in time. Thank you Viparspectra, and Weed Seed Express. 🤜🤛💪❄️ Thank you grow diaries community for the 👇likes👇, follows, comments, and subscriptions on my YouTube channel👇. ❄️🌱🍻 Happy Growing 🌱🌱🌱 https://youtube.com/channel/UCAhN7yRzWLpcaRHhMIQ7X4g
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8/26 she started showing flower. She has been looking very happy. Her leaves pointing high. Since I have been feeding her more her color has been looking much better. Her green is darker then it has ever been. 9/9 Fed 8 tablespoons Foxfarm Big Bloom 28 MLs Foxfarm Tiger Bloom. 9/11 Gave her a little rice water and regular water. Cloudy and some rain today. Also she is starting to smell from a distance. 9/12 4 tablespoons Foxfarm Big Bloom 12 MLs Foxfarm Tiger Bloom. Couple of cloudy days, so only 1 gallon. 9/15 Fed 1.25 teaspoons of Foxfarm Beasti Bloom. She is not growing anymore and working on her bud. So this is her first week of Beasti Bloom. She seems to be budding ok, don't have anything to compare her to. The way I trained her, she is almost all tops. She is greener than she has ever been before. Also a couple of the lower leaves that where fading a bit. The tips look are browning. The leaves where already fading, so I'm not sure if it's a little nuit burn. None of the top and newer growth leaves have any issues. Still I am going to cut back on the nuits a little. This strain is supposed to be a heavy feeder. So I'm going to cut back, but just a little. Probably drop it down to 2 feedings a week. Very nervous about this part of the grow. My autoflower grows were poor genetics. So I am counting on this plant to hold me over for the winter and even spring. Her leaves are a solid green. So I think she is good on N, so I'm thinking maybe this week I should switch over to the Foxfarm Beasti Bloom. Make sure she is solid with P and K.
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she grows very nicely takes water and nutrition well. I have started to train it and it responds well to that.excuse the lighting a get home the lamp for the photo and dry cabinet so there will be good pictures outside the tent too
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Hello everyone week 6 has passed 😎 I’ve spotted a « true » hermie for the Biscotti Mintz from Barneys Farm,pollen sac & female flower😌i ve posted a photo if it can help🤓 For the others girls they are very well growing at fast pace and with a beautiful green colour on the leaves🤩 For the nutrient my homemade fertiliser 100% bio,now for the flowering stage its Symphytum officinal & banana peel super rich in potassium,phosphorus,boron & macro nutrients ⚡️ For the light schedule they spend 12 hours outside full of sunlight☀️ Some LST🔗 I will force the plants to flower in my garage 100% lightproof😎 So every morning and every night i remove all the plants from my garage at the same hours 💪
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con 22 dias hice una última poda, a partir de esta última poda solo iran cayendo algunas hojas por viejas. empieza el buen tiempo y toca retirar el ventilador que tenia por encima del lumatek por dos de más pequeños enfocando directamente a las copas.
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Alles gut. Die beiden Orions verbrauchen 250 ml am Tag und die beiden Amnesien brauchen 500 ml. Ich bewässere jeden 2. Tag. Das Wachstum scheint vorerst beendet zu sein, aber die Knospen werden immer dicker. Nächste Woche werde ich die CO2 Zufuhr beenden.
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Dernière semaine de croissance. Changement de solution fait le dimanche 22/11 car le ph commençait à descendre en dessous de 6.2 et cela faisait 1 semaine que j'avais fais le précèdent changement. Le PH lors du changement était de 6,8. Il est monté jusqu'à 7.5 mais je laisse le filtre faire son oeuvre. Il est actuellement à 7.1 et continue de descendre naturellement. carence en fer. Ajout d'une dose supplémentaire de Sensi CalMg Edit au 25 : Malheureusement ce que je sentais venir est arrivé, saturation en N. Le Ph et l'EC continuaient de baisser tous les deux. Les parties basses des plantes étant sombre et ayant une carence en fer sur la partie haute (puisque élément mobile), j'en ai déduit que c'était une carence en fer induite par une surfertilisation en N. J'étais à un EC de 1, je suis revenu à 0,8 le mardi 25 au soir. La bioponie est très capricieuse au niveau de l'azote. Le mercredi 26 le ph remonte ce qui signifie qu'on a stopé le processus de dégradation du N. Je devrais changer la solution mais je dois passer bientôt en flo donc j'ai enlevé de l'eau et rajouter, histoire de tenir jusqu'au prochain changement de solution qui est prévu samedi sauf si la situation dégénere de nouveau avec le PH. Last week of growth. Change of solution made on sunday 22/11 because the ph was starting to drop below 6.2 and it's been 1 week since I made the previous change. The PH at the time of the change was 6.8. It went up to 7.5 but I let the filter do its job. It is currently at 7.1 and continues to drop naturally. iron deficiency. Addition of an extra dose of Sensi CalMg Last update : Unfortunately what I felt was coming has happened, N saturation. Ph and EC both continued to drop. As the lower parts of the plants were dark and iron deficient (on top because is mobil nutrient), I deduced that it was an iron deficiency induced by N overfertilization. I was at an EC of 1, I came back to 0.8 on Tuesday evening the 25th. Biopony is very capricious in terms of nitrogen. On Wednesday the 26th the ph goes up which means that we stopped the N degradation process. I should change the solution but I have to float soon so I removed some water and added more, to hold until the next change of solution which is planned for Saturday unless the situation degenerates again with the PH. Ultima semana de crecimiento. Cambio de solución hecho el domingo 22/11 porque el ph empezaba a bajar de 6.2 y ha pasado 1 semana desde que hice el cambio anterior. El PH en el momento del cambio era de 6,8. Subió a 7.5 pero dejé que el filtro hiciera su trabajo. Actualmente está en 7.1 y sigue bajando naturalmente. deficiencia de hierro. Adición de una dosis extra de Sensi CalMg Ultima hora : Desafortunadamente lo que sentí que venía, la saturación de N. El pH y la EC continuaron bajando. Como las partes inferiores de las plantas eran oscuras y con deficiencia de hierro, deduje que se trataba de una deficiencia de hierro inducida por la sobrefertilización de N. Estaba en un EC de 1, volví a 0.8 el martes 25 por la noche. La bioponía es muy caprichosa en términos de nitrógeno. El miércoles 26 el PH sube, lo que significa que detuvimos el proceso de degradación del N. Debería cambiar la solución pero tengo que flotar pronto así que saqué un poco de agua y añadí más, para mantenerlo hasta el próximo cambio de solución que está previsto para el sábado a menos que la situación degenere de nuevo con el PH.
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Beautiful plant. I'm switching the light cycle now 12/12
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May 17, 2024 Day 92 We are at the end. Tropicana Cookies is in the dry tent having a nice 48 hours of dark. Tropicana C is now in the back of the tent with the 4 Sour Diesels up front. Yes I Tetrised the shit out of it to get them in. But everything is snug. Tropicana Cookies is officially done with the main tent and is now in the dry tent for dark. I defoliated her up yesterday and only left the sugar leaves on. No sense in keeping the fan leaves on the plant if it's going to be pitch black for 2 days. Plus it's much easier to manage. And will be much easier at trimming time. She is also nearly dried out. Just perfect timing for this part. I just hope I'm not too early. Trichomes are almost all cloudy and there's a good 10% amber. A couple more days and in the dark should help them mature right along. Tropicana C is still a hot floppy mess, but the tops have some potential. I think the majority of this plant will end up being pressed for concentrate. I wish I had a bubble washer. Oh well. Pressing flower is the option then. Anyway, she isn't quite fading still, so I'm hoping for that over the next couple of days. If not, then I'll defoliate and put her in the dark for a couple days as well. Her buds are all purple and that's what matters. She has about 5% amber trichomes and maybe 10% clear. Not enough cloudy for my taste. 4 more days? Maybe. 2 in the main tent and 2 more in the dark tent. I'm still trying to free up space for the Sour Diesels. The light doesn't matter really anymore. She isn't growing at all and her buds are probably as big as they are getting. It's just a matter of ripening now. Don't really need a lot of light for that part. But still, I'm leaving the light as it is. Especially now that the Sour Diesels are in there. The environment pisses me off. How the holy hell can I change the temp by 5 degrees and have no impact whatsoever on the humidity? Seriously. The temp is climbing a bit. I have to keep an eye on it as it's going above 78° and I don't want to melt my trichomes. Back down to 74° with the stupid humidity stuck at 62%. Annoying. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.4° RH: 61.4% VPD: 1.17 kPa Quick update: I had to increase the light power to accommodate the Sour Diesels now in the tent. They needed 200 to 25 mol/m²/d, so the light power as increased to 80%. The DLI only increased a couple points. No at 38 mol/m²/d. Everything looks fine. May 18, 2024 Nothing going on today. Tropicana Cookies is finishing up day 1 of dark. The humidity is a nightmare in the tent. It keeps climbing over 66%. I've tried everything at my disposal. Leave the tent door open, dehumidifier in the bedroom, dehumidifier in the tent? I don't think I tried that yet. I have 2 dehumidifiers in the main tent trying to keep the humidity down in there to no avail. I'm not bothering with trichomes today. I'll check trichomes tomorrow afternoon when she finishes up day 2 of dark. I may have to keep her in for a 3rd day. We shall see. Tropicana C needs to get out of the tent ASAP. Her floppy tops are flopping right over the sour Diesels, which are growing vigorously. 2 of them grew 2" last night alone. They need the room now. Tropicana C just isn't ready for the dark tent yet. Maybe a few more days? She's just starting to show signs of fading now. I'll check trichomes tomorrow as well. The lighting is of no concern. It's making the tent too hot, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything to Tropicana C. Tropicana Cookies doesn't have light. Lol. The environment is a nightmare. Humidity is WAY too high. And now the temp is too high. No matter what I do, I can't control it at all. The temp is 77° and the humidity is still ridiculous at 66%. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.4° RH: 64.2% 1.05 kPa Update: so I was researching other issues high humidity can cause. It slows down production and the plant won't drink because there is too much moisture in the air. It makes total sense. All of the flowering plants are taking forever to finish up. Now I think I know why. Also, I added 1/2 gallon of plain water to Tropicana C reservoir. As she isn't quite done yet, I would rather her have a source of water if she needs or wants it. I added one of the dehumidifiers to the dark tent with Tropicana Cookies. Now the humidity is around 51% with the temp hanging out around 76° to 77°. It spiked into 79° earlier, but I was messing with the heat in my room. May 19, 2024 Busy day today. No watering or anything, but a very busy day. Tropicana Cookies was wet trimmed and chopped down today. It took 94 days total from seed to harvest. After wet trimming, her total wet weight was 14 oz. A bit surprising to me. I was honestly thinking closer to like 9 oz, but I'll take it. Trimming took roughly 4 hours. I'm not sure why, but it did. I'm slow I guess. There was no sense in trying to keep the trimmings for this round. There really wasn't much and I need a bigger table to catch it all. Messy. I've also discovered that the majority of the buds are a bit loose. Mostly the lowers and some of the middles, but the tops are mostly good. I think based on my own mistakes, I'll be using the majority of this plant for concentrate. Maybe the whole plant. We will see. It all depends on how it dries and what the end result is. Both plants were not very happy with my nutrient regimen. Oh well. A lesson well learned. Tropicana C is still floppy as ever, but now instead of a near black purple, she's almost like magenta or something. Dark pink? Lol. Something like that. She's starting to fade now and most of her tops are all colored. I'm just waiting for the fan leaves to catch up. I'll keep her in the tent for as long as I can. Maybe 3 more days? Maybe. Her buds are definitely loose in the bottoms. The mids and tops are pretty nice. We'll see how they look after wet trimming. The dry tent is hanging out at 70° and 61% humidity. I'd love it to go down to 65°, but for some reason it won't. I'll get it right in no time. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.5° RH: 68.3% VPD: 0.84 kPa May 20, 2024 We have fade! Tropicana C is finally starting to fade. Light green leaves coming in with purple hues. The buds are basically pink, it I expect them to get darker as she moves along. Tropicana Cookies Day 1 Drying. She looks good. Not much to report. She's drying. It could take between 5 and 7 days. Due to her smaller buds and the wet trim I did, I don't expect her to take very long to dry. And it seems that the environment is pretty nice. 61% humidity and 68°. The temperature could be lower though. Tropicana C looks good. Still super floppy, but she has pretty buds. Not very tight buds. I'll do the same wet trim as well. She should end up drying after about 5 days. For now, she's drying her soil out and fading at the same time. I might give her another half gallon just to tie her over until harvest. I also plan on defoliation in the next few days after the fade is well underway. The light is the same. No changes there. The environment is still wonky. The temp is at 74° which I finally got control of again. The humidity on the other hand is still super high at 65%. I really don't understand. It was 40% humidity out yesterday and even with the outside door wide open, the humidity did nothing to drop. Nothing at all. It's weird. It's back to being humid today, so no opening the door. Hopefully I can get it to clear up ASAP. Oh, I did just learn that the central air isn't working either. And that is the main source of cool dry air. With none, I'm stuck using a portable AC that just blows wet air back into the room when the condenser is off. Stupid design. Very stupid. Even the dehumidifier function doesn't work right. It does the same thing except with heat. So my room gets too warm but the humidity stays the same. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.6° RH: 67.7% VPD: 0.86 kPa May 21, 2024 Day 2 of drying for Tropicana Cookies. The whole plant shrunk to half its size. Small tight buds. As I said before, the majority of this plant will most likely be pressed. We shall see. Tropicana C is showing way more fade now. Like twice as much as yesterday. It's coming on fast and hopefully that means she's finishing up fast. I checked her trichomes today. Looking good. She definitely needs way more amber though. But has much less clear. So it's mostly cloudy, but definitely nowhere near enough amber. What's funny is how floppy she is. One would think those buds wouldn't develop properly, but they are swelling and getting more purple just like the rest of the plant. Interesting. I still don't know what happened here, but I'm guessing it has all to do with the nutrients this run. Bad timing. This plant may also be mostly pressed. Her buds aren't as dense as Tropicana Cookies and they are definitely not tight. Unless by some miracle, they blow up and fill in over the next few days. We shall see. The environment is finally leveling out now that the central air is on. Finally. It won't drop the humidity all the way to the low 40s%, but it will drop it below 55%. And that's keeps the tent below 60% and put of the danger zone for mold. However, I know it's still too high for the plant to perform at max potential, but it's the best I can do for now. Once it kicks on again, the humidity will hopefully drop to 50%, then maybe my dehumidifiers will start working as they are meant to. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.7° RH: 62.9% VPD: 1.00 kPa May 22, 2024 Tropicana Cookies day 3 of drying. I haven't weighed her up yet to see how far along she is. I'm really not expecting her to take very long at all. Her buds are small so she should be done in a couple more days. Tropicana C is fading quite quickly. Looking really close to finishing up. However, the Sour Diesels in the tent are already in pre-flower and are starting to stretch. The need space ASAP. So I think I'll harvest her whole tomorrow she's not very leafy and I don't think she will get mold at all. She still has super loose buds so she will dry up within 5 to 7 days I think. Even at 60% RH, I think. On the other hand, she was way too dry, so I added a half gallon to the reservoir. I was planning on harvesting in a couple days, but I don't think I have that much time anymore. Originally I was going to wet trim Tropicana C just like Tropicana Cookies, but her branches are way too weak and floppy to trim without snapping branch after branch. So as I said earlier, I'll be dry trimming her instead. The environment is back to being wonky. The central air hasn't turned on yet today and it's 85° out. So my room is suffering a bit with my crappy portable AC. It blows wet air when the compressor turns off. So the humidity is back up above 60%. The temp is fine at 75°, so I'm opening the tent periodically until the AC turns on. I also added a new trichome video for Tropicana C. Getting really close. Let me know how close I am? Or does it not really matter at this point? Update: I decided to completely defoliate Tropicana C. I don't know I will do. Full wet trim. The buds are small and so are the branches. So there shouldn't be any issues with the higher humidity. I'll be doing it in sessions as not to stink up the whole house. But basically anything with a stem I can access is getting cut off. Who knows, maybe I'll finish defoliating fst than I think and will wet trim anyway. She is definitely getting harvested tomorrow. I'm completely out of space for the Sour Diesels. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.7° RH: 59.4% VPD: 1.20 kPa May 23, 2024 Tropicana Cookies Day 4 Drying. I have a moisture meter for the stems and will be using that tomorrow to see how far along she is. Still a couple more days I think. It might be Harvest Day for Tropicana C! Honestly, I would have liked a little more time, but I have other plants that need the space. So I'm wet trimming her today and will harvest later tonight or maybe tomorrow. We shall see. Either way, she is done even if she's not. I'll take one last Trichome Video after I'm done trimming. Then I can see if she's actually ready or not. Maybe she is. I don't think so though. Not much else for today. Unless I harvest, then I'll update. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.2° RH: 60.6% VPD: 1.18 kPa
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Still going in with mild nutes and seeing slight burns here and there....both growing great...tons of frost...slow growth but seems to be worth it. I did lots of heavy LST so that’s what slowed down the growth...I see most harvest at around 10-11 weeks but we are not nearly there!
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Dia 32: agregamos mas sustrato a cada planta y realizamos poda de hojas bajas y nudos mas desfavorable Dia 35: agregamos la primera dosis de blossom blaster pro. 6 ml en 6 litro de agua, aplicamos 500ml a cada planta. Dia 37: aplicamos 500ml de agua por planta. Dia 38: sesión de fotos a todos los ejemplares de este cultivo y rotación de las plantas dentro de la carpa, todos los dias hago estos movimientos para que todas capten la misma luminosidad y el sustrato se seque mas parejo. Dia 39: aplicaremos monster bloom en el cultivo, la solución será de 1.8g (ya que es en polvo) en 6 litros de agua
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👋Hello, my friend!👋 If You reading this, sign up to my profile, I will be pleased! I download new photos and comments updates every day! It will be nice to walk true this grow of my two Fast Buds 'Banana Purple Punch' auto flowers together! I asking a lot of grow questions and take part in a life of this grow community. New week starts! 🌞28.11.2022 Today I came home and saw my smaller one showing four stigmas in the upper knot. I was afraid of she already starts flowering, but mates from 'Grow questions' made me kalm, answering that she's just showing her gender. It's too early for flowering and thet's how all autos do. Thank You, my friends, You've saved my nerves (as usual). I have watered my girls with full pack of GHE nutrients, including 'GHE Diamond nectar' and 'GHE Mineral magic'. Solution ph: 6.0 Drenage ph: I forgot to drain vater from pot's bottom and after four hours it was gone. So I'll measure it next time. I've done some more LST and sprayed them with 'GHE SeaWeed'. 🌞29.11.2022 Today I asked one more grow question: 'Why all new brunches on my autu flowers has triple fingerd leaves?' Mates told me it's a fault of my substrate Ph and I can do some flushing to fix that. I took one on my girls (#1) and made this procedure deeping a whole pot in a bucket with 10 liters of ph5.9 water. Maybe it's some kind ob a black magic, but it did NOTHING. Inflow: ph5.9 Outflow: ph6.7 Substrate ph after 3 procedures: 6.9 I gave up. I'll not doing this to #2 and let them grow in that cursed substrate till the every end. I made small defoliation after all of this to bouth of my girls. Lowest leaves (first floor) was cut with a brunches growing from it. Also I cuted one fingered leaves of a first week. Results are on downloaded photos. 🌞30.11.2022 Photos downloaded. Mb its my mind tricks itself but I noticed #1 starts growing faster after flushing. It was smaller than #2 and now it's almost the same size and even looks thicker. Tomorrow we'll see it more closely and I'll flush #2 if it's true. I watered #2 with full pack of GHE and sprayed them bough with 'GHE SeeWeed'. Also my BPPa#2 showed her gender today (stigmas on a upper knot). Yep, we have a girl here! 🌞01.12.2022 It's a 'rest day' today. Nothing to wright. (Photos downloaded) 🌞02.12.2022 I made some LST and sprayed my flowers with 'GHE SeaWeed' solution. Substrate ph rised by ph0.1 and now it ph7. It's critical already, especially when my BPPa#1 starts to show stigmas everywhere - almost in every knot. I think pre-flowering starts soon. She looks soft and wobbly, I think there is a deficit of some elements. But my substrate still wet, and I can't do anything. Tomorrow I'll make them both to bath in ph5.5 nutrients solution - and it's only thing I can imagine to do now. Relying on the best, waiting for tomorrow. 🌞03.12.2022 Today I watered both of my plants with 'GHE' nutrients (TriPart + Fulvic acid + Roots stimulator + Selicates) and sprayed 'GHE SeaWeed' on the leaves. Also, I think I finally resolved my cuestion: 'Why ph of substrate don't want to go down?'. I take my water from kitchen crane, it has ~ppm110 and ~ph7.5. But clorine in this regular water slowly makes the reaction with asid I use to low it's ph. And slowly but surely ph of solution rises. I noticed this by making ph5.8 water and waighting 24hrs - ph of solution became 6.7 the next day. My previous grow I used distilled water only and thet's why I didn't know about this problem. It's a pity I made this guess so late. But it's better late then never. From now I will make ~ph5.2 water immediately after watering and it will react till next procedure (2 days). It's ph should rize above 0.9-1.0 by this time and become near ph6.0. I already prepared water for the next feeding - clear, without any nutrients (by now) and ph5.25 on it's start. Today my solution measurements looks like this: - Substrate ph before watering: ~7; - Solution ph: 5.8; - Solution ppm: 680; - Solution EC: 1.1; ... - Substrate ph after watering: ~6.9; - Drenage ph: 6.7; - Drenage ppm: 710; - Drenage EC: 1.03. 🌞04.12.2022 The 'rest day'. My experinent with water ph was sucssessful. Now I know how to treat usual water to feed my flowers correctly. My next grow will be nearly perfect. And also, it's my first (and last) grow using autoflowers seeds. I don't like a grow process ether a future results. Regular flowers are what I can grow the best. So I'll stay on a 'photo' side of a force (after this auto grow ends). Week ends.
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nutrients are the same as in the weeks before and dont change as mutch. she is very fast if this holds up so good this is my first hydro and f1 at the same time so pretty glad all works so well.