Ok they're strong for real!
One is still untouched (the guarantee one)
One is all good after the 2º topping (risking it, to autos just the 1º topping is good already, don't waste time, but I'm learning so fuck that)
One I moved a little late to a 5L vase, did one topping too, just the 1º to see how she reacts, all good for now.
The other must be pissed off hahahah because I'm learning LST and she is my training, I wanna see how she behave with different positions but all good for now.
See you guys next week, wish me luck!