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week 6 day 39 first day outside after may holidays the wheather was bad, so not much light, but she growed well the flowers are growing nutrition: day 39: 0,4 litre water + 1,2ml mairol blütenwunder
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WEEK 5 This last week of vegetation went wonderfully for my Fume Pop. It responded perfectly to topping and developed a very balanced canopy. Over the course of the week, I already trimmed and defoliated the lower parts a bit to keep the focus on the strong shoots. By the end of the week, I was also able to spot the first pistils. I’m now looking forward to the flowering phase and hope everything continues to go as well as it has so far. PPFD: 500µmol/m²/s Water: 2x water 1x nutrient solution Vpd: 1,2Kpa
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💚 Amnesia Haze Auto by Zamnesia – Pheno B Week 8 | Small Pot, Big Appetite Welcome back to another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure! Sometimes a phenotype doesn't need to be the biggest plant in the room to become one of the most interesting. And this little lady is becoming exactly that. Last week I was already talking about how difficult it was becoming to believe that this plant was growing in only 11 litres of soil. Well... This week she's making that even harder to believe. She is lush. She is vigorous. She is flowering beautifully. And she's drinking and feeding like she has absolutely no idea that she's supposed to be the girl living in the smallest pot in the room. 😂 So this week, I think Pheno B deserves the spotlight. Let's talk about her. 🌱 The 12/12 From Seed Adventure If you're joining this diary for the first time, welcome to the 8×8 Adventure. Every plant in this room has been grown under a 12 hours on / 12 hours off light schedule from seed germination. There is no traditional vegetative period. Instead, every phenotype has been given the same environment and allowed to reveal its natural architecture from the beginning. That makes comparisons incredibly interesting. Same room. Same light schedule. Same environmental conditions. Same general feeding strategy. Same grower. But completely different personalities. And Pheno B has developed into one of the most fascinating examples of that genetic individuality. ? The Smallest Pot in the Room There are 12 different genetics growing together in this room. Almost all of them are sitting comfortably in 15-litre pots. Pheno B? She's the exception. She's growing in only 11 litres of soil. Originally, this was simply another little experiment. I wanted to see how far I could push a smaller root volume while maintaining proper nutrition and environmental control. And honestly... She's making me rethink some assumptions. Because the limitation I'm seeing isn't that she's struggling. It's actually the opposite. She's drinking like crazy. Her smaller substrate volume means I have to pay much closer attention to moisture levels and irrigation frequency. There are times when she needs watering twice in the same day because she's drying back so quickly. That tells me something important. She's not behaving like a plant sitting in a small container waiting for the next irrigation. She's behaving more like a plant with a very active root system that is continuously demanding water and nutrients. And that's exactly why having proper substrate monitoring becomes so valuable. 📡 Watching the Root Zone in Real Time This is where the TrolMaster WCS-2 substrate sensor has become one of my favourite tools for this particular experiment. Instead of guessing what's happening inside the pot, I can actually monitor the root-zone conditions. Moisture. Temperature. And substrate EC. At the moment, the substrate EC is reading approximately: 0.91 mS/cm And that number is fascinating considering the strength of the irrigation. I'm feeding around 2.0 EC, yet the substrate is sitting considerably lower. To me, that's a very interesting indication of how actively this plant is taking up what I'm giving her. She's not simply sitting there accumulating nutrients. She's using them. And when I look at the plant itself... It makes perfect sense. 🌿 A Plant With a Big Appetite This phenotype is absolutely lush. The foliage is vibrant and vigorous, the structure remains beautifully balanced, and the plant continues pushing new flowering growth throughout the canopy. There is no obvious sign that the smaller container is holding her back. In fact, one of the biggest challenges I'm having with this plant is simply keeping up with her demand for water. That's quite a funny problem to have when your experiment was supposed to test whether a smaller pot might become the limiting factor. Instead, Pheno B seems to be saying: "Give me more." 😂 And I'm listening. 🌸 Flower Development Is Moving Forward The flowering sites are continuing to develop beautifully. The white pistils remain abundant across the plant, and the developing flowers are becoming increasingly defined. The structure is particularly pleasing to look at. She has enough spacing between the branches to maintain airflow and light penetration, while still producing a very respectable number of flowering sites. The central growth remains strong, but the secondary branches aren't being left behind. That's something I really appreciate about this phenotype. She doesn't look like she's trying to become one giant cola. Instead, she's building a balanced architecture where the entire plant contributes. And now that we're moving deeper into flower, that structure should become increasingly interesting as the flowers begin to swell. ✂️ Still No Defoliation And yes... I still haven't defoliated her. And I'm completely comfortable with that decision. Looking at the plant, I simply don't feel she needs it yet. The foliage is healthy. The plant is actively flowering. The canopy isn't showing signs that demand an aggressive intervention. And perhaps most importantly, I don't want to remove healthy leaves simply because we're accustomed to seeing defoliation performed at a particular stage of flower. Every plant gets evaluated individually. Pheno B is telling me that she still wants those leaves. So for now... She keeps them. A little leaf positioning when necessary is enough. I'm much more interested in watching how she naturally manages her canopy than forcing her into a particular shape. Sometimes the best training technique is knowing when not to train. 💧 Feeding Strategy The nutritional program continues supporting this extremely hungry phenotype. Current feeding includes: Plagron Terra Bloom — 2.2 ml/L Plagron Power Buds — 1 ml/L Plagron Green Sensation — 1 ml/L Plagron Sugar Royal — 1 ml/L Plagron pH Plus / Lemon Kick — as required for pH adjustment The irrigation is running at approximately 2.0 EC, while the substrate sensor is currently showing around 0.91 mS/cm. And once again... She's eating. A lot. That's probably one of the most interesting characteristics of this phenotype so far. She may be the smallest pot in the room, but she's certainly not the smallest appetite. 💡 Light, Environment & Root Zone The environmental conditions remain stable, which is exactly what I want at this stage. Current conditions: 🌱 Flowering: Week 8 📏 Height: 135 cm 💡 Light schedule: 12/12 🌡️ Day temperature: 29°C 🌙 Night temperature: 25°C 💧 Relative humidity: 60% ⚗️ pH: 6.0 ⚡ Substrate EC: 0.91 mS/cm 🌡️ Root-zone temperature: 21°C 💧 Solution temperature: 21°C 🌫️ CO₂: 639 ppm ? Pot size: 11 L 💦 Watering: approximately 1.2 L per plant per 24h, with frequency adjusted according to substrate demand 💡 Under-canopy lighting: Lumiflora 📡 Substrate monitoring: TrolMaster WCS-2 The most important part of this week's environmental story isn't necessarily a single number. It's consistency. And that consistency gives the plant the freedom to express what she's capable of genetically. 🌿 The Personality of Pheno B Every phenotype eventually develops a personality. And I think I finally know how I would describe this one. She's the quiet overachiever. She wasn't the phenotype that immediately demanded attention. She wasn't the biggest. She wasn't the fastest to announce herself. She simply kept growing. Kept building. Kept flowering. And now we're reaching the point where she's becoming impossible to ignore. The funny thing is that her biggest disadvantage on paper — the 11-litre pot — has actually become one of the most interesting things about her. Because instead of showing weakness... She's showing efficiency. 📸 This Week's Gallery Looking through this week's photographs, the first thing that stands out is just how healthy the plant looks. The leaves are beautifully developed, with strong colour and excellent structure. The macro photographs reveal flowering sites covered in fresh white pistils, with the developing flowers beginning to take shape. The full-plant photograph tells another part of the story. She's tall. She's balanced. She's branching beautifully. And when you remember that this plant is growing in only 11 litres while her sisters are sitting in 15-litre containers... It's genuinely impressive. The close-up photographs also show why I haven't felt the need to defoliate her. There is still plenty of healthy foliage contributing to the plant's energy production. For now, I'm happy to let her keep doing what she's doing. 🔬 One Small Pot, One Interesting Experiment This is becoming one of those experiments that I didn't expect to become so educational. We often associate larger containers with greater potential. And there's certainly good reason for that. More root volume can provide more buffering capacity, more available water and more room for root development. But this plant is reminding me that container size is only one part of the equation. Genetics matter. Root health matters. Irrigation strategy matters. Nutrition matters. Environment matters. And perhaps most importantly... The plant itself matters. A phenotype with an efficient, highly active root system can behave very differently from another plant sitting beside it in the exact same room. That's why I love phenotype hunting. You think you're running an experiment on one thing... And the plants teach you about five other things along the way. 🔮 Looking Ahead The next few weeks should be very exciting. We're entering the part of the cycle where the structure we've been watching develop should begin transforming into much more substantial flowers. I'll continue monitoring the substrate closely because this little 11-litre container is clearly demanding more attention than her sisters. The WCS-2 will remain an important part of that process. I'm particularly interested in continuing to watch the relationship between: irrigation EC → substrate EC → moisture depletion → plant response. And of course... I'm still not planning to defoliate simply because the calendar says I should. If she continues looking this good, I'll continue letting her tell me what she needs. 💚 Final Thoughts Pheno B started this adventure as the smaller sister. The quieter one. The phenotype living in the pot that was supposed to become the limiting factor. Eight weeks later... She's standing 135 cm tall, flowering beautifully, drinking aggressively, consuming nutrients at a serious rate, and maintaining a canopy that is still lush and healthy. She's making me water more. She's making me monitor more. She's making me pay attention. And she's making this experiment much more interesting than I expected. Sometimes the plant you expect the least from becomes the one that teaches you the most. And this little lady? She's definitely teaching me. Small pot. Big appetite. Beautiful structure. And absolutely no intention of playing small. Let's see where she takes us next. 💚 Thank You Thank you so much for following another chapter of the 8×8 Adventure. A huge thank you to: 🌱 Zamnesia — for providing the genetics and making this phenotype hunt possible. 💜 Plagron — for the nutrition supporting these plants throughout the run. 💡 Future of Grow LED — for providing the lighting driving this garden. 🌿 Lumiflora — for bringing under-canopy lighting into the experiment and giving me another variable to evaluate. 🌡️ TrolMaster — for helping me monitor and maintain the environment, and especially for giving me the tools to look deeper into what is happening inside the root zone. 🌱 GrowDiaries — for providing the platform where growers can document, compare, learn and share these experiments with one another. And finally, thank you for following, commenting, asking questions and growing alongside me. This little lady may have the smallest pot in the room... But she's proving that size isn't everything. Growers Love. 💚🌿
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Day 16-27/12/21 all plants are good!!! Day 20-31/12/21 all looking good just need space in other tent to move half of them!!!!
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Germination date 🌱 28/11/2021 Day 70 09/02/2022 Strain 🍁 Solfire Gardens Bahama Bussdown (Runtz x Bahama Mama) THC% • Unknown 💡 Mars Hydro FC-E6500 • Power draw 650W + 5% • Max coverage 5 x 5 • LED 3978 pcs high quality chips • Max Yield 2.5g / watt • Noise level 0 DB • Removable Driver & Light bars • Daisy chain • Fast cool system https://marshydroled.co.uk/ 🇬🇧 PROMO CODE • (organicnature420) DISCOUNT https://www.mars-hydro.com/ 🇺🇲 PROMO CODE • (ORG420) DISCOUNT 👍🏻 ⛺ Mars Hydro 150 x 150 x 200cm 📤📥 AC infinity 6inch 💧 10lt dehumidifier ❄️ 3.1kw air con system 💉 Nutrients GreenBuzzLiquids 🇩🇪 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Organic Grow Liquid • 1-4ml until 2wk flower Organic Bloom Liquid • 2-4ml flower stage Organic More PK • 2-4ml +wk3 of flower Organic Calmag • 1-2ml/lt whole grow Fast Plants Spray • first 2wks at night lights off More Roots • 2-5ml veg +2wks flower Fast Buds • 5ml 12days before flower until wk1 Humic Acid Plus • 2-5ml whole grow Growzyme • 2-5ml whole grow Big Fruits • 2-5ml flower stage Clean Fruits • 5ml flush 1wk Ph powder Root Gel Living Organics https://greenbuzzliquids.com/ PROMO CODE • organicnature420 15% off ✌️🏼 🥥 Growing Media • Coco Coir 💡 65% Notes 📝 Looking super frosty and some lovely purple colours coming through. All 3 Bahama Bussdown are looking 🔥 .. look forward to the next couple of weeks. Light upto %80 ✌️🏼 if your thinking of changing nutrient company's please think of GreenBuzzLiquids. They honestly are a game changer and you can thank me later 😉 Discount codes in bio for Mars and GreenBuzzLiquids 👍🏻
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Week went again very uneventful. The plant does what she is supposed to be doing (gaining weight) :). Still lots of new pistils appearing overnight, I am checking the Trichomes daily, however, everything remains milky, with only very little % of amber trichomes. Once amber colours start increasing I will start flushing.
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Really proud of this plant! She grew fast and tall and has towering buds. The purple is slowly coming through as harvest time nears!
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She's developed very well. I think there are already many amber trichomes, but also many light hairs. So I'll keep her for another week.
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5 Woche und 5 Tag heute. Pflanzen sehen so weit wie gewünscht aus. In den kommenden Tagen werde ich den Blütezyklus einleiten (Umstellung auf 12/12 Licht), um die Lady’s zur Blütenbildung zu bringen. Die Wachstumsphase war erfolgreich, jetzt wird’s spannend – ich bin richtig gespannt, wie sie sich im Stretch und mit den ersten Blütenansätzen machen werden!​
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Last week of flowering (72days from the light switch) Gonna cut soon when the dirt is dry. A quite late harvest. Many buds denser more, and stem can’t longer resist. This season so satisfy. Thank for all mentor and comment. You all are my inspiration for grows. Feeding 💦🌱 23/1 Water 13.5L+Flawless 20ml ppm80 ph6.2 MDR 3L 2Lx5 Runoff MDR 1400 /1155 Zkittle 1600/1300/1150 Pineapp 900/600 Purp 1300 /1200 Sapp 2000/1100 Dozdos 1100/1000 25/1 10.42 6L ppm9 ph6 1L per pot 3L+Flawless6ml ppm116 ph5.9 1.5/1.5 Purp, Zkittle 4.5L+ Flawless7ml ppm119 ph6 1.5/3 Sapp,MDR Runoff Purp 1300 Zkittle 1500/1200 Dozdos 1400 Sapp1300 Pineapp850 MDR950 27/1 runoff Pineapp 500 Purp 900 MDR 600 Zkittle 400 Sapp 300 Dozdos 400
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Day 70-77 (Day 71) Not exactly sure why but node spacing on bbb 6&7 is super tight still. Their stems are also harder and less bendy, almost like they’re root bound. Bbb #5 in my veg tent is looking bizarre and I’m at a loss for what to do. I’ve been looking up and asking around about the leaf crinkle and no one seems to know what’s wrong. Trashing a pheno of this would hurt. It could be a keeper too as I don’t think the problem is genetic. It’s definitely root bound but that doesn’t cause contorted new growth like that. I’ve concluded that it’s my dense soil coupled with root bound issues, overwatering and high RH. (Day 72) Later tonight I’m going to give bbb 5 a bath tub flush until it’s reading 200ppms, drain it well and then transplant into a 3g pot with lightly amended soil. I’m also going to give it a light defoliation. I don’t mind stressing the shit out of this plant right now because I won’t be flipping for another week at least. With the small container it will run out of amended nutes mid flower so I will hit it with a few synthetic feedings around then to test out the smokabilty and taste compared to organic nutrients. I might as well give the rest a good defoliation on the rest of the plants too. I will try to get most of what is under the trellis. (Day 73) I definitely defoliated #7 waaay too much. Since it’s tucked away in the corner and a really bushy plant I can’t train it as well as the others. I cut most of the sucker branches and the majority of the lower fans. This should prevent the need to defoliate at all until week 3 of flower. (Day 74) I’ve been reading that higher temperatures with a high RH can affect growth big time. It could be what’s causing all the crinkling and twisting. And now that the plants are in very late veg they could probably benefit from a lower RH. When I was running my temps around 74-78F and 70% RH I was in the perfect range. Now that I’m around 82-86F with the same 70% RH that could be what’s causing it. Hotter air holds more moisture than cooler air and proper vpd at 84F is around 75-80%. I’m going to turn up the speed on my carbon filter and set my controller to 75%. If I don’t see a difference or it gets worse I will drop to 65 and go from there. (Day 76) I finally got the lights raised up another 4 inches or so. It’s not much but it should help reduce the intensity and stretch the nodes more. I’m starting to think the super tight node spacing and droopy/contorted growth has more to do with something I’ve been reading about called ‘soil compaction’. Apparently farmers often deal with compacted soil in fields from running tractors over it all day. When I potted the plants I gave them a good little jiggle to compact the soil down further so I could fit a bit more in the container. I think this could be the culprit as they don’t seem to be drying out evenly. Even the plants in my other room are not drying out like they should and it’s probably from compacting too. With the addition of rock dust and dry amendments the soil can become sandy/clay like and retain a lot more moisture. Wish I would have added a few more liters of perlite and packed the soil a bit looser. Either way I need to get this problem sorted ASAP before I get root rot. Earlier in the season when I overwatered, I stuck a fish tank air pump into the soil and it aerated the soil enough to prevent overwatering. The only reason I discontinued it is because it didn’t have much effect in the 1.7g pots. I just ordered a 36w 6 way fish tank pump that is way more powerful. It was 50 bucks and I’m willing to take a gamble on it. It seems to be my only option at the moment because I can’t just repot. Worst case scenario I can use it for brewing compost teas if it doesn’t work. I’m not sure how well this will work in a giant fabric pot but it’s worth a shot. I’ve heard of people supplementing additional air into raised garden beds with great results. I’m picking off some of the new auxiliary branches to try and widen the node spacing. Growth is definitely slow and stunted but no signs of deficiencies. I just thought of another theory on the node spacing... and the more I think about it, the more I think it’s the mystery problem. I’ve been foliar spraying with 1-1-1 VeloKelp at pretty high concentrations 2-3 times per week. I have heard in passing that kelp and seaweed can somehow reduce stretch. A quick google search reveals that Ascophyllum Nodosum Seaweed and other marine algae extracts contain large amounts of hormones and auxins that reduce plant height and stretch. *facepalm* Guess I’ll stop that for the rest of the cycle. As far as I know there is nothing I can really do but wait for the plant to use up all those excess hormones and nutes. The recent 0-0-15 seaweed extract and 1-0-3 kelp meal I bought is derived from the same kind as the velokelp. I guess I won’t use it again until week 3 or 4 in flower. Tight nodes are very useful in flower but aren’t desirable at all in when trying to scrog in veg. Especially when they’re like a half inch apart. It slows the shit out of a grow. Vietnamese and biker gangs in my area used to grow SOG style and use a synthetic PGR hormone (meant for bonsai trees) called ‘paclobutrazol’ that would make the weed rock hard dense so they wouldn’t have to pay people as much to trim it. I’ve heard that in recent years they have made the switch to using kelp extracts because paclo is getting harder find and is not meant for food crops let alone smokeable crops. I’m ashamed of it but I have smoked pounds of PGR weed long before I knew what a PGR was. 🤷‍♂️ (Day 77) One more theory. Ever since raising up the plants up onto that shelf the root zone is probably significantly warmer and the bottom of the pot (where most of the roots are) drys out way quicker. It’s possible that the warmer root zone could not be holding dissolved oxygen at the proper rate resulting in that over/underwatered look. Or it could be that I’m not watering enough at once to reach the bottom of the pot where the roots are and it’s indeed under watered. I’m going to water in a gallon when I get my new air pump and see if that makes any positive change. If I see the new air pump making a difference, I will flip on the 21st of April. If I don’t see a difference, I will carefully untangle the plants from the scrog net and remove the shelf. That extra foot should make a massive difference with ppfd and will cool down the roots significantly too. I’m thinking about grabbing a simple soil/compost thermometer to check the temp of the medium. Better safe than sorry. Rough week. Hopefully everything get smoothed out in the next little while before I flip.
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Day 134 [19.01] This weed is smelling like too much 🤔 my garden is surrounded by the smell of it 😱 The buds are hard like rocks and frosty like you want to 💎 Day 138 [23.01] She is on the list of the plants that have been infested by gnats but she is solo the most resistant. The last feeding with extra PK seems to have been too strong and the plant started to burn from nutrients excess or ph fluctuation so I've flushed heavily before the harvest. Harvest F+61
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Started giving her plain water ph’d to 6.0 a week ago. Took down her main cola the other day so I could lower the light. The trichomes looked good on it. It’s drying currently. Planning on harvesting her next week. Not sure you can tell the massiveness of her from the picture. This is a Mars Hydro 5x3 tent. She is a beast!!
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So everything took off in flower, I was super harsh with the defoliating which initially I regretted, but was surprised with how they packed out during the following weeks. In general it's impressive how hardy these plants are. Even the outdoor grows yielded some quality. Add some more nuets (overdrive and carbo load), before flushing about 14 days before harvest, next time I'll do this earlier and really the Runtz could have gone another week but my drying needs to happen in the same space as my growing for now. Apologies for the quality of image, I'm just using my phone and some bits I have to document, I collect records too, so expect weird noises lol. Build a rotating plat from a lazt susan I found, has been the best piece of kit added this season.
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Final week: temp 20 , lights 20 hours, Par 400 slacked them off to increase stress slightly and trichomes development, RH 37%, (recommend crystal poured on once I dropped it) flushed 12 days before harvest. Water ph 6.2 . Ppm 150, sugar daddy carbohydrates was used highly recommend the smell increased tremendously after I fed them a full dose of this stuff. Runoff ppm 250 ph 6.2, water temp was bit colder then usual also. Harvest , went with a full plant cut this time, for slower dry hopefully and easier lol. I simply rose my scrog and made sure heat and fans aren’t directly on my weed, and gun them upside down after trimming just the big fan leafs off. Temp is 20 and RH is 50% , lights are off. Trimmed and put in jars after 5 days and they were reading a humidity level of 72% so I will just burp the jars for couple hours daily until I achieve 60 ish percent. As for my first over all auto flower grow is was a challenge, I am definitely excited to try them again and hopefully have a little more bud development because I didn’t have the time to train these properly and the lower bud sites are rather light and I want dense this buds. I will really benefit from a PAR meter and co2 meter next grow that’s the last variables I need to perfect. . I hope y’all enjoyed this diary seeyou in a couple months. -Sir Dill
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NORTHERN THUNDERFUCK AUTO / RQS WEEK #12 OVERALL WEEK # 7 FLOWER This week she's looking good her buds are frosty and they continue to get dense her colors look vibrant she's had no issues so far!! Stay Growing!! Thank you for stopping by and taking a look it's much appreciated!! Thank you ROYAL QUEEN SEEDS!! NORTHERN THUNDERFUCK AUTO/ RQS
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day22 video. now adding more pk booster than earlier weeks, should be done week 7-8 we will see day23 I start adding more pk, still will 4x more pk now. Some nice pics today, videos of each, frost on fan leafs, no issues other than pros: bridal frost on fan leafs+sugar, cons 6ft tall. I think I should have pumped more pk earlier into flower/pre Its cool. Adding 2tbsp soluble pk into 5gal vs quarter tbsp in beginning 22 days ago. I am feeding soluble pk, +3 pk soil conditioners and carbs every day. There is no water day. day 25 stacking up. been spraying old cs I made 3ish years ago to test, works on unrooted so I may potential cross. Bridal starting to smell like a mix between fresh watermelon, and lemon+lime or a citrus aroma.
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Harvested my first seeds. Some of these females as re absolutely gorgeous and so freaking frosty