Elite Seeds Novarine THCV grow diary (journal) week13 by Med_in_Tropic

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sir_isOcommentedweek 73 years ago

I think those high temps can be great (though certain strains just cannot cope well), but then coupled with LOTS of lighting (including ambient), carbon and pretty "hot" soil mineral/nutrient rich soil (to kinda maximize efficiency). Kind of a tricky balance though. But I mean, when that "donkey dong" thing (Rose Quartz) grew here, it got super hot there. Some days the temps would be like around 38c, but the air temperature in the area it was growing was insane, I mean absolutely insane, because of all the reflective walls around it. Like 70c air temps in late summer/start of autumn there. Couple of minutes there and I'd be losing liters of water. No idea how the plants managed, but they did, grew large, potent as well.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

And bizarrely, I just check some info about Galinsoga, it's sunflower family (asters) and I did mention the kaurenoic acid of sunflowers... But this is interesting (regarding your son)... "Galinsoga also has some medicinal uses as a topical treatment for nettle stings and for coagulating blood in minor cuts. " Maybe as a food/supplement it could have similar systemic effects.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic That's kinda interesting, I think i've used purslane once or twice (quite a while ago) in a "tea". Regarding your water mention, shit, there's this very common plant, Galinsoga, grows stupid fast, very efficient...but I don't specifically know much about it. Anyway, while soaking a big ass avocado seed in water and it taking super long, I decided to throw a bit of soil in the water...so 3 weeks later, I check a bunch of Galinsogas seedlings floating in the water. I figure, well that's pretty interesting. So I check the sediment at the bottom of the little cup, and I shit you not, like the things rooted and are growing ENTIRELY underwater, with practically no light. They are NOT aquatic plants. I ain't seen shit like that.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, I do blen charred rice husk in my mix. My issue is absorbtion. Did try adding pottassium phosphate with citric acid yesterday. In a week, I would be able to notice the result. My soil is well fertilized with earth worm casting. And I am experimenting with two spicies of purslane. Trying my third species. Getting flowering purslane seemed to be the easiest. The flowering type grows faster. But I like my beach purslane. When I collected these beach purlane, they were under sea water. I think I can get them to be my organic pottassium factory. I'll see if I can just feed them with heavy dose of pottassium salts and then chop them up later.

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homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago

Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪

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sir_isOcommentedweek 63 years ago

Sugars for acidity/microbial activity could help. I'd kinda look at epsom salts too, considering the look of those plants (not only for the magnesium, coz you're in heavy rain area sulphur tends to go away, from what I know), but yeah... You'll figure it out. Good luck.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Yeah that's kinda consistent wherever you find politicians. Very obvious correlation. But yeah, in the past 8 hours, 5.6, 5.9 and 6.7 earthquakes. Some mid 5s just before that too.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Geagte @sir_isO, i live on a mud flat. Our disaster are mainly cause by politicians. No much if earthquakes here.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Did you check the earthquakes lately, dude? Bunch of ~5.5-6.0s in the past day or so (a bit more than usual). And 42 minutes ago: Wednesday May 12 2021, 14:05:16 UTC 42 minutes ago Mauritius - Reunion region 6.7 10.0 Strange area... east of Madagascar. Fairly big geomagnetic changes/effects recently, too (like the past 15 hours or so I guess).

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sir_isOcommentedweek 83 years ago

Yeah that purslane is a bit different looking to the stuff that grew/grows here. A bit more stretchy seemingly...but anyway, hope it has some kind of benefit. And yeah, at least the purslane that grows here has almost insignificant surface roots only. It certainly didn't hurt the plants it grew with here (and it seemed to keep some more annoying things away, as it was completely open area but practically zero ground related pest issues, weeds, etc) Interesting that the rice char was "bad" there, simply too alkaline mix, not "loaded"? The thing about using stuff like char is you have to kinda "temper" it before using, so you might mix it with some soil, throw a bunch of milk, fertilizer, molasses, etc at it, let it "age" for at least a few days, and maybe try to get an idea of the acidity fluctuation/stability before using it for proper grow. Cheers, hope it goes well.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Yeah, sure if it's composted (assuming it's not just rice husk) then it really shouldn't be particularly alkaline.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, well, chatted rice husk is still a good source of silica. Composting it before use seemed to be the way.

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HighRoller909commentedweek 43 years ago

losing appetite after a smoke,sounds like what golden tiger does. really for a long time I haven't had a weed not making me hungry.golden tiger does..maybe there is thcv in it as well. and very good to hear it's against prostate (right after this I checked Ace's website,golden tiger doesn't seem to have a considerable amount of thcv....)

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HighRoller909commented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, 3rd version is thai version with different thai landraces in it. all you can do is to buy older version of GT and wish yourself luck to get a malawi dominant pheno 😃 I'm away from my GT buds, on a trip and I've taken only a little bit of A5 with me. I'll be back to GT in a week or so and make a review about it.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@HighRoller909, I want to grow Golden Tiger anyway. I need a bit of pure Sativa every now and then. A bit confuse about different versions of GT. I am from Thailand and I don't like the high land Thai genetics. In general, Thai is cheap bag weed where I am at. And Aftrican is exotic to me. 😃😃😃😃😃 As it is, Ace does not ship to Thailand and I have to go through some agents. And no agent carry the full Ace range. My dream weed to try is GT/Panama cross. My season to order is in June. Also had payment issue this year and was not able to order this 4/20. Oh well, it is not the season and I have plenty of clones to play with. If I don't change mh mind, I'll start GT early July.

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Shooeycommentedweek 93 years ago

Nice work med, everything is looking so nice and green in the garden mate!!

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Taitocommentedweek 03 years ago

Mucha suerte compañero💪

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sir_isOcommentedweek 83 years ago

That plant looks interesting, like it wants to be in a larger space, more light. Dunno how large those grow, but it looks like grows large. It certainly doesn't look bad, but there's some considerable stretch there, seemingly. I reckon it might be super efficient. Interesting that you noticed the leaf colour improving with purslane, I mean I've not actually compared something like that, it just seemed to be nice with the weed plants when it grew with them. Could it be that the purslane acts as a sort of rain buffer at the top soil, so less nutrient runoff/flushing? It's also possible the purslane sort of stimulates tryptophan related bacteria and root exudants, as tryptophan is precursor for melatonin, and purslane makes quite a bit of it. The fact that it can root from even a small piece of the leaves probably also means it has peculiar hormonal stuff.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, I'm not so big on alfalfa tbh. I think there are better additions, especially if you already use kelp stuff. For me it's like, sunflower, amaranth (coz of their behaviour and uniqueness)... Also gotta be careful with where you source alfalfa, a lot of it is kinda "crap", chemically treated and whatnot.

Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, i am still on alfafa bro. 😀😀😀😀😀 Alfafa is next on my list to try. People are just promoting this.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, I think a potentially good "fertilizer" or composting plant, for a number of reasons, could be amaranth. They are also quite peculiar, imo. Squalene, being one reason why. Amino acid balance, another. Like even a mix of hemp and amaranth seed flour could be quite good...

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eurorackcommentedweek 207 months ago

Great write-up. I've just been trying my Seedsman THCV and its quite different, quite bright, active and I feel Vaping this first then some more regular weed later it makes the later Vape very mellow and not last as long. (This isn't a complaint btw, just an observation)

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eurorackcommented7 months ago

@Med_in_Tropic, I'm finding mine makes me very alert at night and harder to sleep as my brain is clear and buzzing.

Med_in_Tropiccommented7 months ago

@eurorack, THCV actually helps me with diet. I can stop reaching for snacks in the evening especially after dinner. Yeah, doesn't give as mush of the happy vibe. There is one guy is actually a fan of THCV. And he bought most of my THCV buds. This guy is a body builder. After his body fat gets low, he has trouble sleeping. Other weeds made him lazy. THCV weed let him sleep then get up and train for body building competition. These days, I infused THCV to oil and take a couple of drops in the evening. Less weed hang over in the morning. And I see that RQS came out with high THCV. May try to grow it next year.

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sativamancommentedweek 123 years ago

where do you get to all those compounds!!

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@sativaman, Ebay. Studies come deep in scholarly articles

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Thanks @sativaman, As always, i get my ideas from here. These were from @GYOweed. And same as you do, i looked these up on the internet. This time, I ventured so far and went into “scholar” section. Painful reading 😀😀😀 Then there are a few you tube vids o how to mix. Finally i looked up a few shopping webs and get the cheapest source. I thin Note Brassinolide concentration claim is by the seller. Manufacturer(s?) guaranteed concentration at minimum 0.1%. So dose can vary. It depends how you guess the concentration. And on these, little goes very long way. 5 grams makes 50 bottles of 2-liter spray. Literally cost only a few pennies per dose.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 123 years ago

Have u ever spilled it and started cursing? Hey you are going to piss off a lot of overpriced nutrients sellers

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, no some dont but they claim natural booster and up charge. They don't want you to know what's in it that works like terpinator

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@GYOweed, 😀😀😀😀😀 yes, ii curse. Not very often. One time when i did tat, my boss laughed and said i was glad to see that i am normal. Nutrient marketers don’t declare having triacontanol and brassinolide. These have been in the market for 10 years. And you were taking about it. Cheers

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sir_isOcommentedweek 113 years ago

I had a plant that didn't want to flower for around 7 months.... https://bucket.growdiaries.com/static/post/photo/87897/4277067_grow-journal-by-sir-isocustomquantum-hack-codes.jpg There it was, still not flowering. It was uprooted by storms a few times, not kidding. Like, fell over. It was only about 4.5m tall. Is FF the vastbutts thing? I dunno, it just looks wrong.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, The blue widow was to me a 50/50 sort of effect (but we're still talking 20%+ thc sort of thing) with excellent yield, very tough plant, it was pollinated by a monstrous sativa and a sort of oversized afghan kush kind of plant. So I got quite a few phenotypes from it, some of it smells utterly amazing. The one I'm currently growing is very clearly from the sativa male parent as pollinator, most of the seeds are from the kush male parent (which was rather large... it was funny, coz I ripped it out of a big pot, literally just pulled it out of the soil, and then kinda forced it into a 20l, it just kept on producing for months).

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO yes, FF7 was a fast bud tester. That i got last year. This is like the 5th round that i cloned her. Got fantastic amount of strong buds with 50/50 effects. But it is the first time that i try to flower her in mud summer.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 73 years ago

Good job happy growing👶

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, yes i just like this complaint.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

😩 @GYOweed, are you turning into one of these like-monger's?

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sir_isOcommentedweek 63 years ago

Hey dude, random-ish mention. In Tropics, sub-tropics, phosphorus mobility is HEAVILY affected by citric acid. And I notice that's a common problem with plants grown in those areas (they don't bulk easily). Just figured I'd mention that as a reminder. Sure, other things are also involved, but it's one of the more fundamental, easier to address factors. Citric acid is good as both soil drench and/or foliar spray (though as foliar spray it ain't gonna aid phosphorus uptake, good antifungal and such though), depending on conditions, circumstance.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Dunno if I linked this... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/50514198_Citric_acid_enhances_the_mobilization_of_organic_phosphorus_in_subtropical_and_tropical_forest_soils "Soil samples tested in this study were collected from either native or plantation forests in subtropical and tropical Australia with 16–87% of soil total P being in organic form. At a concentration of 10 mM organic acid kg−1 soil, all three organic acids did not enhance the release of inorganic P as compared with water, whereas the three organic acids displayed different capacities in mobilizing organic P. Citric acid significantly enhanced the solubilization of organic P by 34.7% as compared with water; whereas no significant differences were observed in the mobilization of organic P among maleic acid, oxalic acids, and water. The amount of organic P solubilized by citric acid was not correlated with soil pH but increased with increasing soil organic P as the values were below 200 mg kg.−1"

Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, big thanks. I'll look it up. And yes, I have issue with bulking up.

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Shooeycommentedweek 33 years ago

Hey med, what made you choose this one? I haven’t heard anything about it before,,,

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Shooeycommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, excellent med. You have done your research 👍🙂

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Hi @Shooey, i want to try THCV as a new effect. And this Novarine is the first strain that i can get my hands on. Also it is supposed to frow like a Thai land race. That would be reasonably easy for me. 😀 THCV weed is supposed to be a diet weed. It makes you loose your appetite. If it doesn’t make people paranoid, i think there will be another crowd for this cannabantoid, Plus it is super to be good against prostrate cancer. And since i got a couple years worth of stash , i can afford to spend this year seriously exploring this strain 😀😀😀😀😀

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sativamancommentedweek 203 years ago

Best review of a strain I've red, awesome smoke report Med!

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Thanks @sativaman, this one is unusual and warrant some study. Update from this one friend with eating challenges . She continuously used Noravine for a few days and the effects do carry over to the next day. She is hapoy and made as if this is her salvation. 😀😀😀😀😀

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sativamancommentedweek 133 years ago

Again, great garden Med! Lots of great tips and knowledge in your posts!! Is the fast bud ff7 an auto? You are an inspiration; lime bush this is amazing! Can you get fruits from the first year?

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Thanks @sativaman. FF7 is a fast flowering photo period. It was one of test grow projects from Fastbuds last year. After several grow, i liked anx kept only this strain. Fastbuds haven’t launch this yet. Maybe they won’t sell photo period at all. (???). They did pump out several autos after test grows. My lime bushes are mostly Mexican lime. One variety is hystrix citrus l We used these for Thai food and hair treatment. It takes at least a lyear to fruit. Flower starts with root grow. So the get big and is best for out door in North American hot zone. Southern California, Texas, and Florida. I grow flowers and spices long before ganja.

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Betageminicommentedweek 123 years ago

I have never heard of Triacontanol, which promotes plant growth and accelerates photosynthesis. It is extracted from the Alfaalfa plant (Medicago sativa), which I know well. I always learn something new on your profile. Happy growing.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

💚 @Betagemini, thanks for the compliment. Thank for explaining what these are. I was excited about how to convert triacontanol into useful form. And i did not bother to introduce how safe and powerful these stimulants are. 😓 😀😀😀😀 that is the main complain about me from people at work. Actually used these to brought harvested BB3 fast back to life after harvest. But somehow, i was not able to post it. I’ll try again later. Happy summer solstice.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 103 years ago

Everything looks greener and better than a year ago

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@GYOweed, 😀😀😀😀😀 this old dog learns slow but he does learn.

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HighRoller909commentedweek 103 years ago

39C indoors would be very deadly but plants can handle outdoors I think.There are many factors like winds,underground waters,CO2 right? Indoors we don't have those by default so yes 39 is a great temps outdoors I love it I love hot weather :D but indoors I prefer something like 22C

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@HighRoller909, it also depends on the strain. Cold climate Indica and expression of Rudelaris genes won’t tolerate this heat. Navarine is said to be from a Thai variant. So she grew lijes anative.

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