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Girls are comeing along good now I have went up from 2mil to 4mil per liter now of nutrients the moby dick are 25" tall the two front one strawberry glue are 15" and 20" tall the L.S.T worked out very well as there very wide and lots of main colas I would like to see the moby dick get as big as my last ones like 30 to 35" tall we will see