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R_Owl_Mirror R_Owl_Mirror
6 years ago
Sorry but, I've been quite ill for the past two weeks. The plants are all in flower now. I did obtain one male and allowed a few pods to open prior to cutting it down and opening up the pot so the two females could spread out more. I have reached inside and removed all low-growth stems & associated leaves. I also allowed the male to hang & dry up a bit, allowing a few more pods to open up & pollinating the Blueberry. While the flowers on all plants are 2 weeks old, I have noticed that some pistols have turned brown. I believe that must be due to those pods being pollinated & producing seeds. ADDENDUM: The Blueberry stretched far more than I expected so, she's tied up until harvest. The Blueberry is about 48" tall, quite a few lower branches & one long center cola. She seems to have gotten pollinated quite well as I can see many pods growing on every bud site. Which is fine with me since I intended to procure as many seeds as possible from this grow. I won't be taking any photos of her until I pull her for harvest but, I did manage to pull out the 30-gallon pot with two plants in it. One Cobra Female & One White Widow Female. You can tell the difference between the leaves. In total, both plants take up a 4-foot diameter and are about 18-20 inches tall. I have thinned them out as best as I could but, there are some many branches each with a cola I dare not cut any further. From this point on I will only be able to take photos by turning off the lights inside the tet and taking photos like that. I truly wish I had known what to expect regarding the growth pattern of these plants. I would have planted one in its own 30-gallon pot. BTW, I have decided to name the seeds I will be obtaining, Blue Cobra & White Cobra. That's it for now. Today I decided to switch tents & plants so the Blueberry could grow without being tied down. Since the 30-gallon pots plants are inside a 4x4 tent & the plants touch every side, I decided to add another light, making that two 400-watt lights on the outside edges with a 600-watt light in the center. That should be plenty enough to penetrate the thick canopy.
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R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirrorstarted grow question 6 years ago
Defoliation of Fan leaves. The COBRA's growth structure is very tight nodes with large, Indica-type fan leaves. The largest one (3rd pic) has tripled in size from the last photo. I have been bending the leaves under side-branches. Can or should I cut them off to allow light in?
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DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedanswered grow question 6 years ago
I defoliate my plants personally. I think they come back stronger after a good defoliation. I basically look down on the plant from the top and remove any leaves that are blocking bud sites. Any leaves not blocking bud sites can stay. I also remove any yellowing or dying leaves as she goes through flowering. I really think it helps. Feel free to ask any questions. And have fun! 👍
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirrorstarted grow question 6 years ago
How many times could/should I defoliate these Cobras? The Last photo shows a before & after which took place on May 31st and since that time, she has regrown to the point prior to defoliating. Should I repeat another defoliation? Far too many branches are shaded, again!
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ShaggyGrower
ShaggyGroweranswered grow question 6 years ago
Yes you can repeat the defoliation in the 3rd week of flower. I tuck where I can like you, but in flower, the very large stem fan leaves I usually take off as the stems they were powering have fan leaves of their own so don't really need the stem fan leave to boost them. In Week 3, you want those bud sites getting as much light as possible. The plant will stop vegetative growth (leaf growth) by the end of week 4 (The Stretch), so no more will grow in the way then.
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Ganjalf
Ganjalfweek 1
ladies and gentlemen, we got ourselves a threesome here 😂 that's going to be one heavy pot!
Ganjalf
Ganjalf
@R_Owl_Mirror, interesting technique! very innovative
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@Ganjalf, I'm not sure if you took notice of the Air-pot in the center of the 30 gals. pot. (first photo) It's empty & placed there strictly for watering. I figured with three plants I would want to ensure the water/nutrients reached down to the root balls so, I buried the air-pot halfway to ensure the water didn't have to go through the first 6-inches of topsoil before reaching the roots. I've found using these fabric bags, some water eventually leaks through the sides through the fabric when water is applied to the top layer. I hope it works as planned.
Ganjalf
Ganjalf
@R_Owl_Mirror, it sounds great! making your own customized babies :D
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DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 3
I do what I consider 'real' defoliations twice, once at the beginning of flower, and again about 1/2 way into flower. But I will also do 'light' defoliations as needed throughout the grow - meaning if I see a leaf yellowing and dying off, I pull it.
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeed
@R_Owl_Mirror, both. I don’t treat my autos much differently than photos with regards to defoliation. But I won’t top or do any HST with autos anymore.
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@DudeGrowsWeed, Now are you talking about Autoflowers or Photoperiods?
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@DudeGrowsWeed, All leaves are extremely healthy now. They just seem to double & triple in size and amount each day. This this is a beast! And WoW does she smell at 3 weeks! Smells like I spent all night smoking Hash. Later today I will take another before & after photo so, you and others can see how much this beast grows on a daily basis. Oh, the Blueberry seems to have entered a growth spurt too. I had to raise my lights twice in the past few days. Over 6" in 4-5 days. OK, Thanks everybody for the assistance. I will show you what my question was in regards to with another before/after photo.
Stick
Stickweek 1
That airpot in the middle is really smart 👌
Stick
Stick
@R_Owl_Mirror, DIY is the best way to go! Strong knowledge and skills in here 💪
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@Stick, Yeah, it definitely helps get the water/nutes down to the roots more efficiently. Under it, I took one of those political campaign signs, bent it and added a third wall. That way when the water fills up the airpot, it flows individually into each of three sections.
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeedweek 2
I defoliate my plants personally. I think they come back stronger after a good defoliation. I basically look down on the plant from the top and remove any leaves that are blocking bud sites. Any leaves not blocking bud sites can stay. I also remove any yellowing or dying leaves as she goes through flowering. I really think it helps. Feel free to ask any questions. And have fun! 👍
DudeGrowsWeed
DudeGrowsWeed
@R_Owl_Mirror,Sounds great! I’m sure it will be helpful to others.
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@DudeGrowsWeed, Thank-you for answering my question. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be harmful to a young Auto-flower plant. The other two strains are growing normal but, the COBRA is growing so thick & full. At two weeks you can't see the inner branching, just one thick globe of Fan leaves. I will take photos, before/after the defoliation, as a record for anyone else who happens to grow COBRA.
YouGrowBoss
YouGrowBossweek 2
Gotta say this is first time I've seen 3 in a bed. What would you suggest the benefits are? I can only imaging problems and complications :-( The slow growth would most likely be responsible to the low humidity, or the fact that small plants have been potted into a humongous pot. Get a big empty plastic bottle, cut it in half and place over the small plants. Humidity will rise within the bottle. Good luck though dude, I'll be watching ;-)
YouGrowBoss
YouGrowBoss
@R_Owl_Mirror, OK so you are able to feed them individually then? That was my concern, not being able to feed them at different times or different levels. Cool man I hope it works for you bro :-) and thanks, but no it's not on YouTube.
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirror
@YouGrowBoss, Beneath the soil, are walls which separate the root balls into their own 10-gallon space. The Airpot located in the center is to provide direct watering to each root ball without first having to filter through the first 4-5" of soil. Both Cobras are Non-Feminized seeds. I am hopeful that one of them will be a male, which will allow me to both collect pollen for future breedings as well as produce seeds in this grow. Apparently, I am the only person growing COBRA on this forum so, I have no reference to judge by. That is why I have my Blueberry in her own pot, in her own tent. If I do get pollen, I will be able to brush a few flowers on the blueberry to produce a few seeds yet, keep the majority of the plant, seedless. As for the Humidity, it rises & falls according to the weather. It's springtime & we've gotten a few days of rain, then a few days of clear skies. Plus, I also foliar spray each night just before lights out. I did take your advice and placed a cutoff, clear plastic bottle over the White Widow. I included a thick roll of a wet paper towel, pressed along the wall of the bottle to increase the humidity, rather than hope for it to leach out of the soil. BTW, I took a peek at your Glue Factory. Quite impressive! Do you have a video on Youtube of it? I swear I've seen that room before.
SleepyWillow
SleepyWillowweek 10
Mango haze, blueberry and peyote critical are my picks! I like to see people try new things good job experimenting!
Stick
Stickweek 3
@R_Owl_Mirror Hi there! I'd recommend to defoliate 4-5 leaves max per session and let her rest for 2-3 days. Then see how she recovers, if it seems slow --> calm down on defoliation, if she's reacting well --> you can do it again. The important thing is to remove only the leaves that are creating shades onto your bud sites, and don't touch the non-blocking leaves since their role is crucial in energy absorption. Removing too many leaves can result in a stunted plant, slow growth/flowering, and buds full of tiny leaves. Hope this helps, keep us up-to-date and happy growing!
bobo420
bobo420week 1
Good luck with the grow ;)
MSNL_Seeds
MSNL_Seedsweek 1
Off to a great start!! 😄
R_Owl_Mirror
R_Owl_Mirrorweek 2
UPDATE: At week 2.5 per my question above, I decided I did need to defoliate the COBRA One. I realize it is a debatable topic but, I saw the benefits of allowing more light inside the canopy outweighed any slowing in growth. She is so young, I thought that at this age it shouldn't cause too much trauma. I uploaded a before & After photo, last photo in the group. * It is truly amazing, the growth rate between the First Photo, taken on May 26. And the Defoliation photo, taken on May 31. The COBRA from Flash Seeds is showing incredible potential. I now just hope to get a Male with as potent growth genetics as Cobra One. ** Just for reference, Cobra is a breeding between a DJ Short's Blueberry, a Lebanese Hash plant and Lowryder by The Joint Doctor.