these were 1.5 foot branches to start that I topped once rooted . the cuttings are from when I prepared the outdoor cookies for budding . I stripped lower branches and then saved a full 27 that rooted and I gave away keeping 4 of the best for myself . the cloner is just a cheap Canadian tire tote with holes drilled in it to fit 2 inch clone collars , it has a bit of 1/2 inch sprinkler pipe a 15 watt water pump and some spray heads easy to make and about 60 dollars you really do not need the Clonex , but you will get more roots faster . mine was outside in 40 C heat no dome and not one died over the summer , this unit is actually meant for aeroponic lettuce . drill smaller holes then the clone collars and have a tighter seal and save on the baskets or if plan to do hydro add the baskets once rooted and topped the plants were feed a week mix of General hydroponics and additives listed on the next page but at about 10-20% of normal feeding with 5ml USG of Clonex . as well as F2 Foliar was used to spray the plants when the leaves would look a bit yellow . for cloning its self only 5ML USG was used of Clonex and no foliar spray was used . it was not till after they had rooted I was having a PH issue I added the air stone and some real food and sprayed them . I Defoliated after topping once a week to allow them to grow as they did . for the most part these really got ignored and just allowed to get out of hand and stretch