they are a bit rough for wear. I just moved then put them into 7 gallon pots watered with 5ml Clonex per US gallon when transplanted , then defoliated and used pipe cleaners to tie down all branches for a nice spread and even height canopy . used mostly LST but some HST and I did break one branch . this happens but its still well worth it . hold the branch so it does not pull on the joint to the stock with one hand and wiggle with the other hand the part you want to bend back and forth do this up down the length till get the bend you wish go slow be careful . gave halved listed feed 12 hours later , I have a simple set up , two older GL2000 MixJoy 240 watt meanwell drivers and 301b Samsung diodes they run at 240 watts on max each and give a good spread in the 4'x4' tent .not sure about the newer versions but these work great . have a 6" Acinifinity fan with computer controls . its just set to 3 . the controls can be nice but for right now this worked best . a small wifi baby monitor or pet monitor 4mp camera . a honey well fan on the roof will add more fans as plants grow . a mid sized Dehumidifier will be added to the room the tent is in for the budding stage but not the tent itself . 7 gallon pots and 21" plant trays . for this grow I will not be draining the runoff . all water is tap water that has been left in a 5 USG bucket with an air stone in it . I have two of these so at this point they usually sit for days goal is minimum of 24 hours though . later during bud cycle will see if I need a third