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TinyTenter TinyTenter
2 years ago
On Day 7 the plant was moved to the grow tent that the previous grow grew in and had been drying in. LST started as early as Day 9. It always makes me feel a little bad for the youngling. That seed could have happily sprouted in any of countless other pots or fields and grown tall and unaffected with one giant usable cola - the way she's supposed to. But it had the misfortune of being the seed delivered to me - with this setup. With this setup that says, "I have no choice but to dwarf you, one way or the other. You WILL be stressed!" This breaks the record from last grow (Day 11). Getting crueler as I age, I guess. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Why LST so early? 1)A key component of my training strategy is the "constant even canopy" concept. When the plant is presented as a flat surface to the lamp, better things are happening for your grow than otherwise. Therefore, the earlier you start LST, the faster you'll start getting growth of the other 3 main branches, because the plant has been laid flat. Then you just keep compounding your growth outward across that flat plane as much as you can. The sooner you LST, the sooner you kickstart faster/better growth basically. Why waste time (with an auto)? 2)You also get to the point where the main cola loses apical dominance over the rest of the plant quicker, because you allowed for the faster growth of the underlying branches as quickly as you did. 3)It also makes scrogging the plant easier eventually too. 4)Ultimately, the biggest benefit, I think, is you get to keep the main cola without topping, so more juicy yield potentially? And the main cola is usually the most beautiful and yielding, so keep her! (More on this below.) So if you read the Germination story I wrote, you might have come here to see how the off center planting of the seed in the pot affected things with LSTing the plant? Well, I liked the orientation the first grow LST took in that I bent the plant in the direction of the leaves in the first node. In other words, when the plant was bent over, one of the single leaf leaves (1st node above cotys) would be pointing up to sky and the other would pointing directly down into the pot (and I would just remove that hopeless leaf eventually). With this planting off-center, however, I needed to figure out which edge of the pot I wanted to lean the main cola branch over. I decided that the nearest edge to the plant would be best because it would eventually make watering the plant easier than any other orientation. But the only way to do that was to violate the LST orientation that I chose the first grow, because the leaves would be diagonal to the ground instead of perpendicular and parallel. But then I realized that it would be a fun test to see how the plant would handle it. So I went with the diagonal decision. I learned it eventually meant less need to defoliate from the plant because every leaf or stem had the opportunity to turn and face the "sun." In the other way, there's either perfect alignment or a pair where one sibling needs to die - so you lose 25%. Maybe I'll keep doing it this way? It did, however, make controlling the N,S,E,W orientation of the main branches a little harder. You'll see in the next couple weeks that some of the velcro straps on the pot are diagonal on the pot because I literally had to wrangle some of the branches away from where they naturally wanted to go, if I wanted that square look (if viewing from above) I like the plant to have during flower. Anyway, this week is where all the training started. She was not topped. I still have never done that to a plant. I think I might be getting religiously suspicious of the practice. Throw away the BEST cola? Instead of keeping and doing the work to train it? Seems work worth doing to me, if you can swing it. Topping to me seems like trading your best player on your team for draft picks and bench players you plan to turn into starters someday. Needs to be done sometimes I guess? Someday I'll try growing a more Sativa dominant strain that grows taller than these strains I have, and I guess I'll have to try topping then. Have a great grow day! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ‘
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Grow Questions
TinyTenter
TinyTenterstarted grow question 2 years ago
Are there any obvious reasons NOT to harvest this plant right now? Like, do you look at this picture and think, "No way, you shouldn't harvest that yet, because..." Whatever that reason is, if there is one, please tell me. Thanks so much.
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ThinLizzyanswered grow question 2 years ago
Looking at just the picture there are no obvious reasons not to harvest. I always use a loupe to harvest. If you don't have a loupe and you think she is ready to harvest give the plant 4-5 days.
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Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbweek 9
Happy growing my friend! Nice reading your diary! Peace & love L.S.T ๐ŸŒฌ๏ธ๐Ÿ’จ
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Legendaryseedthumb, hey buddy! Thank you so much! Glad you like it. There's more to come! It's fun and nice to be back with a diary. Didn't pop one up sooner because I was deciding kinda big things about my life and just wasnt sure how this or any grow would fit in it. I at least know now things promise to be the same at least til the end of this grow... so I came back with a new one. I've been testing some things during this one, and I am coming to at least one kinda exciting conclusion about growing a plant in my setup that you'll see when I discuss weeks 5 and/or 6. Can't wait to write about it. Prolly in a few days.. Come back! ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘
2x2growing
2x2growingweek 9
Good luck with your diary๐Ÿคž
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@2x2growing, Thanx so much!
BudzyMcbudzerson
BudzyMcbudzersonweek 13
Awesome grow! I did one resently (before I joined here) I had a bit less yield but I messed up on the PH with that grow. Still some super frosted buds!! Hope you enjoy the smoke!!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@BudzyMcbudzerson, The good thing about coco I suppose is that you get less volatility around the results. It's basically a sponge that holds nutes. So if your nutes schedule works, you shouldn't have to care about toxicities and deficiencies as much. But... You have to feed/water coco a ton! Twice a day for my 2 gallon pot. I hear you can do once a day with bigger pots, but still.. there's more work to do. But the benefit of this is that you are more frequently in front of the pot, so you get more chances to look after her and do whatever you have to do - LST, defoliation, tucking under trellis, etc. If you do go to coco next, try cocoforcannabis.com. Great advice there. Feed schedule too! Good luck!
BudzyMcbudzerson
BudzyMcbudzerson
@TinyTenter, Glad to hear its going well!!! I have a few of the clips on mine Its a love hate thing. I broke a Zkittle branch once with one. I was so devastated! But when they work good, they work great. I have moved to Velcro ties like you said. Using binder clips and the lower branches i can just Velcro to the felt pots. And with the Velcro its reusable which is big for me. i may have done 5 or 6 grows before starting on here, and hated chucking the ties ( bit of a hippy when it comes to waste if I can) I totally get being busy. I tried so hard to get a pic everyday but seems lately I've been swamped. and even replying is tough sometimes, I've considered doing the late grow / harvest pic dump. I Maybe ill do weekly since daily is near impossible lately haha! Ill be interested to see how it turns out! It is a bit of time and planning I totally get that! Its nice to see how others grow, from beginners to experts. Gives me an idea how mine are doing in comparison. The breeders tend to give you best case scenario. Ive been debating moving to coco from soil. Fox Farms soil gets expensive lately haha! Well good luck and cannot wait to see the final product๐Ÿ˜
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@BudzyMcbudzerson, Hey, thanks! She's doing pretty good now. LST is well underway. I learned that I needed to officially retire the idea of the LST clip from my production. Maybe someday, when I'm growing big long sativas, those things will be useful. But for now, they are out of the rotation. If I had done it the "right" way, I would have just used velcro ties and garden wire to make hooks. You get more precise placement and control as long a you bend the wire the right way around the stems of the leaves - better on a small seedling. LST clips can work, but you have to be lucky to have the plant growing a certain way or the clips could do a little damage, or just fail to properly bend the girl over, which is thankfully all that happened in my case. Thanks for following! I don't have a diary for this grow I'm talking about yet. I'm a busy guy, so I don't start the diary until like week 10 or 11 when the management of the plant is fairly easy and I have time to write. But right now, the LST phase takes time and planning and I just don't have time to be going back and forth talking online about what is going on. I'm not even sure it's all that interesting to an experienced grower anyway, especially in coco (you follow the feed schedule that works and it just works). So I'll be out here with a new diary in like a month and a half most likely. Good luck with yours! I'll be watching!
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DrCicci
DrCicciweek 13
Great diaryโ€ฆ very interestingโ€ฆ waiting for seeds of this strain to arrive any day now and hope mine will look similar to yoursโ€ฆ well done!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@DrCicci, Well.. I do wish you the best with your grow of this strain. She's a pretty girl, certainly. Even though she was a smaller yield than my first and only other grow, I kinda have a crush on this grow instead. LOL. I like how she has a certain pastel like coloration to her. And the smell is great. I'm doing a second grow of her now. It's a different grow this time. Weird 2nd node leaves. Branches aren't as flexible. Gotta be careful with LST cuz the branches can easily break. But I'll really know what I got here when I install the flowering stage lamp in a few days. I've noticed that that is when you really see how big she will grow. I don't know if I'm gonna start a diary for this grow yet, but I'm collecting data and pictures as if I will... So follow me if you want to see how this one is going. I'll prolly start one in about a month or so if it's going to happen. Good luck with your grows!
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@DrCicci, Thank you.
roro_204
roro_204week 12
Love watching and reading your grows๐Ÿ’š
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@roro_204 ๐Ÿ˜Š
Benasquella
Benasquellaweek 10
Good luck tenty! Looking good mate! Wedding cake is a nice strain ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŽ‚
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Benasquella, Thanks! Yeah, I got to try some a few months ago. I'm definitely a fan of the strain. I like limonene dominant strains, in general, but there's something special about Wedding Cake. Certainly.
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 10
Everything is better with a bag of weed๐Ÿ‘ป Good luck happy growing๐Ÿ˜
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Godesskat, Best campaign slogan ever! You got my vote! ๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ‘ Thanks, buddy!
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 9
Wish you best of luck and happy growing ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Œ
TinyTenter
TinyTenter
@Cannabeast40, Thank you! You as well!
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 10
Herb is the healing of a nation, alcohol is the destruction ๐Ÿ˜Ž good luck๐Ÿ˜