You'll notice from the pictures above, that there doesn't appear to be much growth from Day 30 to Day 35. I believe this is where things start to go very differently between my two grows. If you check my diary for my first grow, you'll see more growth around Day 35 then you'll see here. And if you check THIS diary in weeks 9+ and compare it to the last one, you'll notice this plant is about 50% smaller (as boos rain down the rafters.. lol.)
Now you can put this down under "different strain, different pheno" maybe. Certainly, as subsequent grows happen for me, I'll keep an open mind to this possibility. (I have seen videos on YouTube of Fast Buds/Green Crack Auto grows that go METERS into the sky. It's supposed to be a really short strain. Not sure the sativa side of that strain isn't a bit vengeful.) But what makes me lean away from this conclusion is that this grow was actually slightly ahead in terms of growth than the first grow around Day 30.
Now if you read my last diary, you saw me lament how early I installed the flowering lamp (Day 30). This is because I saw THIS video during flower of the last grow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfihE4IuFuU&list=PLMcw9X3LP0amFbFymSiTIGiOsH-u907iF
He literally shows you the difference in results between growing with a blue spectrum light vs. red spectrum. And I can corroborate that with both of my grows, there was a noteworthy increase in growth in the plant just a couple days after installing my red spectrum flowering lamp (HLG 100 RSpec). I was literally complaining how tight the internodes were with my first grow during veg, until I installed the RSpec. Then the internodes got MUCH wider. So since a major goal of this grow was to keep the plant lower or smaller in the tent, one of my key tests/strategies was to introduce the flowering later in the process. So I wouldn't install the flowering lamp on Day 30 as I did last time. I would install the flowering lamp during Week 6 this time.
I would eventually install the lamp on Day 41. 11 days later than last time. I think the results speak for themselves. Goal #2 achieved with flying colors. Comically, I'm simultaneously thrilled and disappointed in this result. The scientist in me is happy about these results, but the farmer in me is not. Of course, I'd love to have a monster grow of sorts here, but remember that that wasn't the point of the grow. This grow is supposed to be a further refinement of skills and strategies through experimentation. I only have one tent at the moment, so sacrifices needed to be made for science. That's ok. Consider it an investment with rewards for many future grows. The loss will be recouped. This may end up being, from an educational standpoint, possibly the most valuable lesson I'll ever learn about micro-growing Cannabis properly.
So like Goldilocks and the Three Bears, if Day 30 for flowering lamp installation is too hot, and Day 41 is too cold, Day 35 for my next grow should be just right, if my theory here is true. And if my theory here is true, this means flowering lamp installation timing ends up being one of the most if not the most important critical factors in determining the overall size, quality and yield of any grow done within this tight mini-tent setup. So figuring this out is a home run for this grow. I'm giddy with excitement about my next grow. I can't wait.
Have a great grow day!
Are there any obvious reasons NOT to harvest this plant right now? Like, do you look at this picture and think, "No way, you shouldn't harvest that yet, because..." Whatever that reason is, if there is one, please tell me. Thanks so much.
Looking at just the picture there are no obvious reasons not to harvest. I always use a loupe to harvest. If you don't have a loupe and you think she is ready to harvest give the plant 4-5 days.
@Legendaryseedthumb, hey buddy! Thank you so much! Glad you like it. There's more to come! It's fun and nice to be back with a diary. Didn't pop one up sooner because I was deciding kinda big things about my life and just wasnt sure how this or any grow would fit in it. I at least know now things promise to be the same at least til the end of this grow... so I came back with a new one.
I've been testing some things during this one, and I am coming to at least one kinda exciting conclusion about growing a plant in my setup that you'll see when I discuss weeks 5 and/or 6. Can't wait to write about it.
Prolly in a few days.. Come back! 😀👍
Awesome grow! I did one resently (before I joined here) I had a bit less yield but I messed up on the PH with that grow. Still some super frosted buds!!
Hope you enjoy the smoke!!
@BudzyMcbudzerson,
The good thing about coco I suppose is that you get less volatility around the results. It's basically a sponge that holds nutes. So if your nutes schedule works, you shouldn't have to care about toxicities and deficiencies as much.
But...
You have to feed/water coco a ton! Twice a day for my 2 gallon pot. I hear you can do once a day with bigger pots, but still.. there's more work to do. But the benefit of this is that you are more frequently in front of the pot, so you get more chances to look after her and do whatever you have to do - LST, defoliation, tucking under trellis, etc.
If you do go to coco next, try cocoforcannabis.com. Great advice there. Feed schedule too!
Good luck!
@TinyTenter, Glad to hear its going well!!! I have a few of the clips on mine Its a love hate thing. I broke a Zkittle branch once with one. I was so devastated! But when they work good, they work great. I have moved to Velcro ties like you said. Using binder clips and the lower branches i can just Velcro to the felt pots. And with the Velcro its reusable which is big for me. i may have done 5 or 6 grows before starting on here, and hated chucking the ties ( bit of a hippy when it comes to waste if I can)
I totally get being busy. I tried so hard to get a pic everyday but seems lately I've been swamped. and even replying is tough sometimes, I've considered doing the late grow / harvest pic dump. I Maybe ill do weekly since daily is near impossible lately haha!
Ill be interested to see how it turns out! It is a bit of time and planning I totally get that! Its nice to see how others grow, from beginners to experts. Gives me an idea how mine are doing in comparison. The breeders tend to give you best case scenario. Ive been debating moving to coco from soil. Fox Farms soil gets expensive lately haha! Well good luck and cannot wait to see the final product😁
@BudzyMcbudzerson, Hey, thanks! She's doing pretty good now. LST is well underway. I learned that I needed to officially retire the idea of the LST clip from my production. Maybe someday, when I'm growing big long sativas, those things will be useful. But for now, they are out of the rotation. If I had done it the "right" way, I would have just used velcro ties and garden wire to make hooks. You get more precise placement and control as long a you bend the wire the right way around the stems of the leaves - better on a small seedling. LST clips can work, but you have to be lucky to have the plant growing a certain way or the clips could do a little damage, or just fail to properly bend the girl over, which is thankfully all that happened in my case.
Thanks for following! I don't have a diary for this grow I'm talking about yet. I'm a busy guy, so I don't start the diary until like week 10 or 11 when the management of the plant is fairly easy and I have time to write.
But right now, the LST phase takes time and planning and I just don't have time to be going back and forth talking online about what is going on. I'm not even sure it's all that interesting to an experienced grower anyway, especially in coco (you follow the feed schedule that works and it just works). So I'll be out here with a new diary in like a month and a half most likely. Good luck with yours! I'll be watching!
@DrCicci,
Well.. I do wish you the best with your grow of this strain. She's a pretty girl, certainly.
Even though she was a smaller yield than my first and only other grow, I kinda have a crush on this grow instead. LOL. I like how she has a certain pastel like coloration to her. And the smell is great.
I'm doing a second grow of her now. It's a different grow this time. Weird 2nd node leaves. Branches aren't as flexible. Gotta be careful with LST cuz the branches can easily break. But I'll really know what I got here when I install the flowering stage lamp in a few days. I've noticed that that is when you really see how big she will grow. I don't know if I'm gonna start a diary for this grow yet, but I'm collecting data and pictures as if I will... So follow me if you want to see how this one is going. I'll prolly start one in about a month or so if it's going to happen.
Good luck with your grows!
@Benasquella, Thanks! Yeah, I got to try some a few months ago. I'm definitely a fan of the strain. I like limonene dominant strains, in general, but there's something special about Wedding Cake. Certainly.