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Week 9 (Flower week 4). 01/23/2022: Day 59. I wasn't super enthusiastic to pull the plants out to check them over and water, feeling like there was some issues around either cal/mag or slight lock out...But when I pulled the plants out they looked pretty darn good. Snipped a few leaves that were ugly, but really not bad. -I've been watering 2g per 5g bag and decided to do a full look at the runoff PPM/EC to see if I was running into problems. My concern being the well water at 221ppm and whether that was causing trouble for P/K absorption. I checked run-off at 1.5g, 2g and then again at 3g (one gallon more than my usual watering). At 1.5g I had a PPM at ~850 (1.7ec), so not awful. At 2g (my usual full water) the PPM was down to ~675ppm (1.35ec), then at 3g I was down to ~500ppm (1ec). Good suggestion that its not lock out. -I've purchased a ZeroFilter and will be processing some of my water through, in hopes of pulling down my overall hardness, and more important using it to pull out sodium in the water that I've already softened. 1/27/2022-Day 63: -The two Northern Lights couldn't be farther phenos from each other. NL#2 has less stretch, but overall is healthier with better leaf color and less difficulty with what appears to be either a Ca/Mg or P/K issue. Last watering I checked for lockout (unlikely, since it had a EC of 1.7 at runoff), but in terms of tail-chasing for nutrient antagonism, I decided to try filtered water instead of our straight well water. This feeding I ran all the 'softened' well water through a ZeroWater filter to remove any remaining hardness but also any sodium left from the process. Initial TDS reads at 1ppm. From here I added Ca/Mg (supposedly in a better more available form than the calcium chloride that is in hard water, then nutrients. Ended up a little heavier than I wanted (around 730ppm/ 1.46 ec), but we're going with it. Hopefully it will clear up those paler green/yellow leaves and any of the rando spotting that looks like Ca/Mg issue. -ZeroWater filter will take some adjustment. Removing the natural Ca/Mg means that the pH lowers to around 5.2 meaning a good amount of pH Up is needed to hit 6.5. Will probably move to a schedule where I Ca/Mg the watering water and use minimal amounts in the feed water.
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MadeByGod
MadeByGodweek 1
:O) Looks good <3
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@@MadeByGod, Nice! I grew two on my first grow a while back. They ended up being the most successful no matter how I abused them.
MadeByGod
MadeByGod
@LeastExpectedGrower, Im also started growing one Northern Light a few weeks ago. Ill follow you so i can compare LOL.
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@@MadeByGod, Thanks!
AllieO
AllieOweek 2
Also growing northern lights! So much fun to grow since she's so damn resilient
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@AllieO, Yes! Of the 4 plants I did last grow the Northern Lights were the easiest and had the best results no matter how I abused them. The one that proved to be difficult was the Blueberry...it was a bitch about everything.
weed__mee
weed__meeweek 1
I wish you a great growth 😊🍀🌱🌷
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@weed__mee, Thank you!
Northern_Ent
Northern_Entweek 11
Most well water problems are treatable, but I learned last summer that super soft water is worse for plants than I expected. RO units that produce 150 GPD can be had for $300 Can so I got one of those for the hash making. Works great. Congrats on the grow and good luck with harvest.
Northern_Ent
Northern_Ent
@LeastExpectedGrower, cool. Depending on where you live the province or state may have a water well database where you can likely find it on a map or by well ID.
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@Northern_Ent, I appreciate your input and expertise. Yeah, I've been using the water from the well with our softening system bypassed. The only time I've used it otherwise was when I tried the ZeroWater filter, as it removes sodium from water anyway. It indeed brought the PPM down to near-zero, but that then also made the water need a shit-ton of pH-Up to bring it to 6.5, while the un-softened water sits at just a bit north of 7pH. I think my method moving forward will be to add just a little Ca/Mg to the water when I'm doing my 'watering' vs. my feeding, which will maybe give a chance for some to be taken up better than just the hardness natively in the water. I know that many wells in the area carry a lot of sulfur, but ours doesn't seem terrible, though I can't lay my hands on a water analysis report at the moment (I know I saw it when I bought the house).
Northern_Ent
Northern_Ent
@LeastExpectedGrower, I would think that calcium in water is just Ca2+ and the form doesn’t really matter. Hardness is just 2.5*Ca + 4.1*Mg in mg/L and if you’re running it through a water softener the Ca and Mg would simply be swapped for sodium, and it might not change the TDS much. You’d likely do better with the unsoftened water. There’s a thing called sodium adsorption ratio if you to look that up. My well water has 290 ppm sodium and almost no hardness so the SAR is off the charts bad. I was using calcium carbonate dissolved in vinegar to provide cal mag after I realized how bad the soft water was. Your 220 ppm TDS seems low (certainly potable) but you might also have reduced sulphur or low dissolved oxygen from well water both of which would be bad for plants. I add hydrogen peroxide in small concentration to raise the DO (let the water sit for an hour to decompose to O2). Your water sounds pretty decent and likely just needs a bit of work. Good luck.
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Capo420
Capo420week 6
Awesome progress! You definitely have a knack for pushing plants. Very nice job. Thank you for all your advice as well. Happy Growing! 🤙💪🌱😎🌱💪🤙
LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGrower
@Capo420, Thank you, I appreciate it! Each run is a new learning experience for me...they get better a little bit each time. Once harvested, I've been working toward a bunch of things in the kitchen along with the regular uses...I've been playing with infused honey (I have bees) with a few recipes, I've been doing alcohol extractions/tinctures, and now I'm about to start doing some of that with sous vide techniques. Thanks for checking it out!
Y0ink
Y0inkweek 3
When the going gets tough, the tough get going! Good luck! 👊🏽💪🏽💚
ueono
ueonoweek 1
Good luck 💪✊👌
Kynareth
Kynarethweek 8
good grow