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m0use's G13 Labs - Blue Cindy

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Defoliation
weeks 11
Topping
weeks 2-3, 6-7
LST
weeks 3-8
HST
weeks 5, 11
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Vermiculite
Grow medium
Soil
Grow medium
Other
Grow medium
16 L
Pot Size
0.5 L
Watering
0
Germination
Nutrients 4
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 4 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 2 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 18
m0use
Freebie seed from The Attitude Seedbank on my last order. Going to veg it out with another G13 photoperiod freebie alongside 2 Dinafem's Dinamed Kush CBD Autoflowering plants. Once the auto's are finished, I will switch these into flower and continue from there. May not update every week as there will be a lot of Vegging time. Cheers, m0use
Used method
Glass Of Water
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
11 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
65 %
22 °C
22 °C
20 °C
1 L
0 L
25 cm
Nutrients 1
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 2
m0use
This weeks been ok, was away for most of it and had someone looking after the plants. This plant as been performing the best out of all the seeds I've sprouted, smells great as well when you rub the stem. Will be a good plant I think. Added in a big pot of water and ultrasonic diffuser to boost in humidity. Can remove this when the plants get transplanted in their own pots, they will then maintain a solid 65%RH Also no idea the ratio of dry amendments in the mix I used when potting these seeds, guessed from my previous grow from my old notes. Nothing else to note.
2
Week 2. Vegetation
13 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
40 %
22 °C
22 °C
20 °C
2 L
0 L
38 cm
Nutrients 9
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 4.7 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 2.7 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 1
m0use
This week was all right. Did a topping at the beginning of the week as well as a water based inoculant using miicrobial mass pro and transplanter MS-CS root rescue. added them into the watering reservoir and put in a air stone to keep it oxygenated. I let that run for 24 hrs before watering. The roots on this one where outstanding, quite happy with how white and healthy they are. I would have put them in bigger pots but I was short on medium and did not want to make a fresh batch up. I had some left over Myke so I decided to use it on this, put a layer in the hole before transplanting it. I don't water everyday and just guess at the watering measurements I'm using. The bottom leaves where starting to show signs of deficiencies I think, maybe PH, no where near as bad as the Maltezerz plant. Don't know why. web links to the products I used as they are not in the system here, https://www.rootrescue.com/files/TransplanterMS-CSExampleLabel.pdf https://miimhort.com/ https://www.usemyke.com/en-ca/products/natural-growth-enhancers/myke-flowers/
Used techniques
Topping
Technique
3
Week 3. Vegetation
15 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
40 %
22 °C
22 °C
18 °C
2 L
0 L
38 cm
Nutrients 1
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 1
m0use
Two days after her transplant I topped her again an added in some LST. These can be seen in the early top/lst titled photos. They have both taken very well to early LST and topping. I plan on topping them a few more times with LST to create a large amount of centralized colas. I have also stripped her of any smaller side branches under the main nodes that have been topped. I was noticing adding in the air stone to my watering reservoir for increased oxygenation caused the waters PH to rise. The PH was going up and making it harder to go back down. I did a little test as well and made a chart that I attached to my diary. It seems adding in a air stone will spike the waters PH and keep it up. You will need a substantial amount more phosphoric acid to keep the levels down. I tested this on approx 700ml of water, my smaller reservoir holds 4L and larger one holds 12L. With the 4L reservoir I had to add 3x-4x times more acid to bring it back down towards 6.5 ideal PH. With this done, I am not noticing any new issues on the growth of the plants and they are looking pretty great. I will be using air stones now to help oxygenate the water and will adjust PH respectfully. Will do a U•CANN by Gaia Green nutrient top up in another 2weeks but next watering I will add in some extras. Using very small amounts of Ascorbic Acid to neutralize the chloramine in the city's tap water. Nothing else to really report.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
4
Week 4. Vegetation
17 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
40 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
2 L
0 L
38 cm
Nutrients 4
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 5 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Crosby's Blackstrap Molasses 1.25 mll
Comments 3
m0use
This week has been chill for this plant. I gave it 1tsp or 5ml topping of U•CANN by Gaia Green Herb Thrive as the pot they where transferred into was not all that much bigger then before, so they needed some extra food. Continuing the work on LST and topping them when need. I have 8 mains right now and next week I will have 16 or the beginning of 16. No idea where else Ill go with this. The g13 plants desperately need a transplant but I have no medium left I have to get on that and make some up. I wish the stuff I left outside was thawed and I could just toss it in a pressure cooker for two hours to freshen it up a bit. blue Cindy has taken well to anything I give it. the other G13 seed is not so lucky. more sensitive to my growing conditions. I think I will be purchasing some air pots to play aorund with. 3gal or 1gal from a local hydro store and testing it on these ones. I've asked a question the other week about fabric vs air pots and want to experience it for my self. Can always use them to start a new tree for my relatives place, they are excellent for that.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
5
Week 5. Vegetation
20 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
40 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
2 L
0 L
38 cm
Nutrients 3
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 1 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 5 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 11
m0use
Topped them again and continuing to mainline them, finding that out of the two new shoots that form sometimes one of them is weaker then the other. dwarfed even. Got in the MIIM sample order, won't be using the ChitoSal on these ones until they are in flower. Started to notice that the plant was getting pink/purple stems. Don't know if its a deficiency, from the LST or LED's so added in a bit of feed won't hurt it much.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
HST
Technique
6
Week 6. Vegetation
25 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
8 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 9
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 15 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 5 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 3
m0use
ok, so I finally transplanted them into the larger fabric pots. I wanted to move them into 5gal but I ran out of perlite and vermiculite so made a half batch and put then in the 3gal pots instead. they where not to hard to remove from the pots, sprinkled them with some Dynomyco and Myke and topped off the pots. Fortified the mix with some BioSol Seaweed & Shrimp compost as well as a 3:1 ratio of U•CANN by Gaia Green Herb Thrive : U•CANN by Gaia Green Abundant Bloom. The root mass was a bit better looking on this plant vs the other. Will be watering again with microbial mass and transplanter ms-cs again this week as its freshly transplanted. vs once every two weeks. May repeat this one more extra week as well to help roots develop.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
7
Week 7. Vegetation
27 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
8 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 1
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 12
m0use
These g13 branded plants are starting to turn it aorund after a week from transplant. This blue cindy has impressed me in every way its even start to release more terpenes when I brush her in the tent. Has taken well to the transplant and is putting on new growth. Will continue working with LST and topping to maximize the area should be flipping to flower in the next 3 weeks.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
Topping
Technique
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Week 8. Vegetation
27 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
8 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 5
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Transplanter MS-CS RootRescue 1.25 mll
Magnesium Sulfate - Epsom Salts 1.25 mll
Comments 7
m0use
Good week with this, still quite happy with this bitch. Despite the sistering g13 plant this one has not had the same light burn issues and seems to really like LST and HST I took notice that the plants where looking like they needed some extra magnesium, gave them some and they have green up a lot since that. I will have to make a note that U•CANN by Gaia Green is great but needs a bit more magnesium for this plant. Still some nice berry fruity smells coming off this one. I am going to love it in flower I'm sure. Rearranged the canopy and used more zinc coated brackets to LST it all down. Its also showing its sex all aorund the plant, good news and means I am ready for the 12/12 flip. This will happen as soon as my pollen project is completed for dinafem plants. Hopefully only one or two more weeks for that. I will also be using SCROG for the first time ever and looking forward to it. Try some super cropping or just LST them down to the net undecided on it yet.
Used techniques
LST
Technique
9
Week 9. Vegetation
27 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
16 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 9
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 63 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 22.5 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 6
m0use
Transplant and feeding week. Moved them to a 16L pouch, thought I had 22L but I did not and only other option was 30L. Went against that as I want to start these in flower in two weeks and get this grow over with and make room for SOG of a test batch of seeds. Bit confused what I should have done if topdressing and transplanting at the same time. Transplanting guideline says new soil should have 2-4tbsp per gal of medium and topdressing says 1-2tbsp per gal of existing medium. I just made a bit more of the transplanting mix and put a later on top in conjunction with on the side and bottom of the pot. Sadly these pots where only an inch wider and 4 inches taller. would much rather they have same height and just more width. lesson learned for next time. going from 3.8L to 12L to 30L. or in root pouch sizes #1 to #3 to #7 in total 126ml of Herb Thrive and 45ml of Abundant Bloom dived between two pots in 15l of extra soil. 75/25 mix
10
Week 10. Vegetation
30 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
16 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 1
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 5
m0use
This week has been hands off, just watering and letting it grow up into the light. Will be trying a min top dressing every week for the beginning of flower to see if that helps with the stretch and extra nutrients needed, G13 Labs has told me this will stretch about 200% For the top dress will do 1/3 the regular amount and in a 50/50 mix then 25/75 mix of 5-4-5 2-7-7 for the first week then the following.
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Week 11. Vegetation
35 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
22 °C
20 °C
16 °C
16 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 8
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 21 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 21 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 2
m0use
Alright this week was something fun. Gave the plants a well needed defoliation, maybe over did it a bit but they bounced back just fine. with how they where before I would have ran into some issues with WPM or bud rot just not enough airflow to me, I also need a 2nd tent fan. One more week till switching to flower. Going to start to thread them into the net all this week and next then switch to flower on Sunday. Should be a nice explosion in growth. Will also be using the ChitoSal product from MIIM next week. It is recommended to do it once week before 12/12 switch and the first two applications are to be a foliar spray. Also giving them 1/3 their topdressing in weekly increments aorund switch to flower, will help spread out the feeding vs all at once. notice a lot of borderline N toxicity with U•CANN by Gaia Green. Was stripping off some extra dark leaves. The first two weeks are a 50/50 mix of Herb Thrive/Abundant Bloom then after that it is 25/75 Herb Thrive/Abundant Bloom. When the 1/3 feeding is done in 3 weeks they will go down to 1/4 per week til end of flower, stopping at 3 weeks out from harvest and just giving them water with BSM and LAB, this has yet to be created, just starting the fermenting process. Should be ready for next week if all goes well and I follow my feeding schedule I made. I also took some small clones 2 weeks back and they have rooted into some containers, they are the little one on my grey pants and then in the brown mushroom containers. When stripping them I took a bunch of other clones to start, will give them out to my friends and family. maybe gorilla grow some in the area should have about 15 if all works out. As I'm wanting to only grow CBD/CBG dominate strains I will not be growing these clones outdoors this year. Plus I have some seeds coming in from a few friends on GD that I need to run.
Used techniques
HST
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
Grow Questions
m0use
m0usestarted grow question 3 years ago
When you are using SCROG, do you like to have the majority or all the spaces filled before you flip to flower? I plan on using some of the stretch growth to fill the rest of the canopy space. not a lot maybe 30% Ideas, thoughts?
Solved
Setup. Strains - Photoperiod
Techniques. ScrOG
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question 3 years ago
Hello. Just want to say thanks on your effort on the questions page and congrats on your win. I thought most of your answers were good and I liked that you did some research before you answered some of the questions. It's tough when you try to help only to have some growers jump on you or try to trip you up . I think you did well. Chuck. Cannabis is a great hobby. I'm still learning. Give it a try and tell us how it went in your diary.
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Week 12. Vegetation
38 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
21 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 6
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 21 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 21 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 4
m0use
Switched the plants into flower the last two days of this week so it has been in flower now for two days now. Will keep the week reflecting veg at 18/6 given the majority of the days it was on this schedule. Gave the plants their first application of ChitoSal in the form of foliar spray as per its directions. Moved the lights up to 70cm till plants where dry to avoid any burning and they did alright. prepared the mini top dressing of 1/3 the monthly amount to space out the initial shock. Still the 50/50 mix and next week is the 25/75 mix of Herb Thrive/Abundant Bloom 5-4-5 & 2-7-7. 50/50 mix coming in at 3.5-5.5-5.5 25/75 mix coming in at 2.75-6.25-6.5 Following this last week of the 1/3 monthly feeding over three weeks I will go down to 1/4 monthly feeding every week till the last 3rd week and only use water with its added amendments I have been using, also plan on upping the molasses last few weeks in flower for a boot in thickness/plumpness. I have also completed my LAB serum for the grow by culturing the bacteria. This will be introduced on next weeks schedule and done every other week. I also made a mini wheel of cheese from the leftover curd, taste like a mildly slated feta with a Parmesan cheesy smell :D May upload this process with photos in the week I am drying the buds before harvest is entered. Found some little creatures when watering them this morning. Have identified them as Springtails and they are none threatening to the plants health. If the populations gets out of hand I will apply some nematodes to the top soil to knock them back. guessing they came with the compost product I mixed into the grow with the last transplant and topdressings. They eat mold so I'm not to upset with them. Lastly I put the clones that where sitting in water in their first mini homes. They all got dipped in IBA 0.1% rooting powder and the ones that I all ready had rooted got a top dress of compost. The two lager containers of two plants are Blue Cindy "two plants one container previously rooted" all the smaller ones are Maltezerz "one plant previously rooted"
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Week 13. Flowering
41 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
38 cm
Nutrients 6
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 10.5 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 31.5 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 1
m0use
Week has been good, it had the last of the 1/3 strength feedings this week. It was in the ratio of 25/75 vs 50/50 of the weeks previous, Will be moving into the 1/4 strength feedings next week. I may increase this ratio if the plants look like they want more, should not be an issues though if my calculations were correct. I have noticed they are not getting the same nitrogen toxicity as I found they got in veg, good colour on the leaves so maybe this is the way I do it moving forward. I forgot to include the ChitoSal photos last week when I sprayed them so I'm putting them into this weeks entry. Only one more foliar feeding left before it goes into the water regime, this is where I feel it will be most effective, I'm predicting a increase in the plants terpenes and smells will happen when I do this. They have been drinking more, around 2L every 2-3 days so that's a good sign. Made a mistake on the LAB serum last week, it is to be added into the water on the alternate week of when I add in MIIM Miicrobial Mas, so next week it will be added in. got ahead of myself there. Some stretching happening, its not as vigorous as I thought it would be but I still have one to one and half more weeks to go before its done the stretching phase. I may still see a abundance of growth to match my expectations. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 8cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 41cm for week one of flower. Clones are doing alright. the days are warm so I am putting them outside when the sun is out to get them used to the future environment they will grow in.
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Week 14. Flowering
44 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 7
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 8 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 24 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 5
m0use
This week has been on par with the rest, watering and feeding as per my schedule. Introduced the LAB Serum into the grow this week. not expecting massive performance but will see how its working out in the following weeks. ChitoSal had its first root base feeding as well this week. used it at 2ml/l vs 2.5 like suggested in combination with the LAB Serum. One thing to note with the LAB Serum it will lower your waters PH a great deal and it should be balanced to aorund 7.0 before adding in. I do not aerate with the serum in the water I add it after and feed right away. Blue Cindy has not been a vigorous as its roommate Maltezerz in terms of stretching, its staying very compact and leafy. not looking forward to trimming it all once then is done and over with. Did a bit of defoliation under the scrog net, seems it started to regrow out of its old pinched off locations. also took out some lower popcorn/larf nug sites just below the net. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 11cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 44cm for week two of flower. +3cm "low to no stretch" :/ Clones are doing alright. the days are warm so I am putting them outside when the sun is out to get them used to the future environment they will grow in. Lowered the lights to aorund 25cm or 10" vs 38cm or 15" before.
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Week 15. Flowering
46 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 6
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 8 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 24 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 2
m0use
This week has been pretty chill, nothing major to report. Still have issues with stretch but they are going. I expect them to gain a bit more height before harvest but what I got now is my main plant. I made a mistake last week and forgot to change the feeding amounts listed. Before it was 10.5ml Grow & 31.5ml Bloom but should have reflected the 1/4 strength monthly. not the 1/3 monthly. It has since been corrected to 8ml Grow & 24ml Bloom. The smell is still not as strong as I was thinking it would be especially for Blue Cindy being more smelly vs the sister Maltezerz. I'm wondering if this is because I am giving them to much water or maybe I am just used to it by now. Only time will tell. My friends group said nothing to worry about, its normal. I also forgot that I am running the extractor 100% if the time on low so its never building up in concentration then getting filtered out via activated carbon. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 13cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 46cm for week three of flower. +2cm from Last Week "low amount of stretching but its even across the canopy vs the Malterzerz that is more dynamic across the board. Planted up some new clones from a trimming I did a week or so ago. They soaked in the water a bit to long for my liking but maybe that will help them root. The new ones are showing signs of flowering so the light will reverse them in time. I also moved the 2 x18w light bars back into the main tent as I chopped the Dinafem Dinamed CBD Kush project.
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Week 16. Flowering
48 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 7
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 8 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 24 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 1
m0use
This week was pretty standard, I found out with the help of a friend the amount of magnesium I was feeding my plants was way to much. about 4x as much as they should have had. so they will no longer be getting any extra added magnesium. I read that it can stunt plant growth in excess but I don't know if that happened here, Plucked a few leaves off that where blocking other bid sites and removed some in the middle to help airflow. I was thinking about purchasing a 2nd fan for the tent but the ones I want are out of stock so I feel its best to use a regular none tent fan and just rig it up to a tent pole for now. Starting to see more frost on the sugar leaves and some good bud development on this one. The sister Maltezerz is also getting nice buds but not as nice as Blue Cindy. Maybe in time they will even out or switch sides. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 15cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 48cm for week four of flower. +2cm from Last Week "first week it has stretched more in the single week vs the Maltezerz" The clones are doing well considering I have ignored them mostly. Some yellowing in the leaves but nothing to worry about just yet. Have not lost a single clone in this project. I'm impressed with my self for that. Could also be this strain is really easy to clone as well.
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Week 17. Flowering
49 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Weak
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 6
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 8 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 24 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 1
m0use
Forgot to take photos of the topdressing this week. Used the one from a few weeks prior for the diary entry. Everything is going well and have not noticed much of anything. Noticing a lot of browned pistil tips on this plant. Think I am now in the stretch where I will just be waiting for the plant to bulk up and should not notice anything to drastic happening unless it hits a toxicity or deficiency. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 16cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 49cm for week five of flower. +1cm from Last Week "doing ok still" The clones got a little beat up looking ruff and will need some feed soon. I plan on using some basic liquid nutrients. Also topped the tallest blue cindy clone.
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Week 18. Flowering
50 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 5
U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive 18 mll
U•CANN 2-7-7 Abundant Bloom 24 mll
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Comments 8
m0use
This week was ok, Been noticing some lower leaves getting spent and dying. They are shrivelling at the base of the leaf where it connects to the petiole then progressing to the tip. Normally nitrogen just yellows and falls off, I feel this is from the extra Magnesium I gave them. Messing with the EC in the soil. Added in an extra 10ml of the U•CANN 5-4-5 Herb Thrive Have also been giving them more water lately and they seem to be loving it. Thirsty ones it seems. The smells have also been really popping now and feels like a normal amount now, I am quite happy with this. Moving my hands in between the nodes in the canopy they will get quite sticky :D Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 17cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 50cm for week six of flower. +1cm from Last Week Clones are fine, still looking sad, did not get any liquid fertilizer to give them food yet, not to concerned for it, more of a project to see if I could do it vs need/want them.
Grow Questions
m0use
m0usestarted grow question 3 years ago
Thinking of planting this outside after harvest... 1) chop just the cola branches, leave all lower nodes/branches 2) reveg the plant to regrow leaves/branches from lower nodes 2.5) transplant outside once ready 3) harvest the plant a 2nd time. Any insight/advice?
Solved
Plant. Other
Setup. Outdoor
Techniques. Other
3 likes
SkootzGenetics
SkootzGeneticsanswered grow question 3 years ago
Your plan on paper looks to be correct. Good luck, I'd like to see the progress on this. Just be sure to leave enough nodes so the plant doesn't think it's going to die or near death, and you should be good, imo.
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Week 19. Flowering
50.5 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 5
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Transplanter MS-CS RootRescue 1.25 mll
Crosby's Blackstrap Molasses 1.25 mll
Comments 5
m0use
Still having issues with the yellowing of leaves, been told this is because they are end of their life, but I don't think they are that close yet. IDK, could be wrong. I added insect frass only as the last top dressing this plant will get. Still has a high dose Black Strap Molasses lined up and some more ChitoSal before its chopped. The small amount of runoff that came out of the pots, I put a PH strip on it and noticed the PH was aorund 6.2. Giving it just aerated water no PH balance to it to try and boost this up to 6.5. I feel this was from all the lactobacteria I added into the medium. May need to chop a week or two earlier if this keeps up. I also noticed some purpleing on the leaves, the temps get down to 17/19c at night. so they are starting to turn :D Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 17.5cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 50.5cm for week seven of flower. +0.5cm from Last Week Clones are fine did not take their photo this week, nothing is happening with them anyway. If I start to grow them out doubt I'll start a new diary with them. Maybe revegging this plant I'll add a new diary.
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Week 20. Flowering
1 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.5
Normal
50 %
19 °C
20 °C
18 °C
16 L
1 L
25 cm
Nutrients 3
Ascorbic Acid - Vitamin C 0.1 mll
Crosby's Blackstrap Molasses 15 mll
MIIM - ChitoSal 2 mll
Comments 1
m0use
The crisping of the leaves where bothering me so I decided to do a hard flush of the plants to lower what I think was a EC issue. I was also wondering about the PH and it was on point at 6.8 from the flush water I gathered. I do not own a EC pen so could not monitor that aspect of it. It looks like it may have helped a bit. Hard to tell at this point the death has slowed a lot and I am seeing fading signs that I am used to seeing so it makes me feel a bit better. I think I have stunted this growth a bit because of this mishap but should still be a good harvest. The soils temp is getting down to 12c at night, The ambient air temps of the tent are aorund 15-18 at night though. Good for adding colour into the fade. During the say its keep steady around 26-27. Starting to smell more and more and loving every time I open the tent. Given they are stuck in a scrog net trying to remove the bottom trays to empty them cause them to be rustled a bit and they released a lot of lovely scents. I am in the last week or two now. Will be giving them one more heavy molasses feeding and then nothing else. They got their last ChitoSal and I think it made a difference, would really need a side by side to confirm if its working at all. Will monitor its length from the SCROG net vs soil as its easier to measure. 33cm from SCROG net to base of plant 18cm from SCROG net to tip of plant Total 51cm for week eight of flower. +0.5cm from Last Week Just like last week I am no longer posting about the clones in this diary. Maybe give them a recap blurb in the harvest entry.
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Week 20. Harvest
Happy Harvest Day!
Blue Cindy - G13 Labs
Spent 205 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
8/10
Rated
500 g
Bud wet weight per plant
129.6 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.75
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Comments 23
m0use
The time is finally here to post the harvest. I waited till it was all done and dry before updating the dairy so will add in the dry weights next on the 2nd half of the harvest entry. I enjoyed this plant a lot, its grew well and loved how it was shorter and fatter. I wonder if it was at the dame distance from the plant if It could have done even more. Had some issues with the yellowing that was happening on the other plant in this tent. I should have treated this faster with a flush but was super reluctant and it may have hurt the yields a bit. The top best looking buds looked and smelled amazing even the lower buds where doing well not so larfy like the other plant. There was crazy strong smells with this plant, sour berries and hints of lemon, it was a best smelling plant I have grown to date. This would be a great plant to grow for beginners, cant take a lot of stress and still produces quite well and even on lower wattage leds it was good. It was not the most crystally looking plant, not like the maltezerz but still had some finger hash buildup but a small amount. I feel this plant would be a winner for a rosin press. I don't plan on growing this strain out again despite me liking a lot of qualities about it. I'm only trying to grow cbd dominate plants is the main reason. If my friends really like this I have some clones so can always give them some. Speaking of clones they are doing well outside, greened up a lot and showing signs of revegging. Took some photos of the weed hang drying on day 1 in the tent and a week later to show how much they shrink. Only some of the lower growth is larfy, will make good edibles or hash, that will be a fun project to do and may include that in my projects diary. That's about all I can think of if you have any questions just ask. m0use Disclaimers: 1. I have divided the total watts of light in half, 300w(150w) for this diary. It will accurately reflect the g/w ratio as the two plants growing in this tent are listed in two separate diaries. 2. I include any shake/trim in my gross totals as I use them to make edibles. 3. I did not follow any proper ways of listing my nutrients. Some are ml/l of total solution watered, others ml/l of total medium and some are just the total amounts I added, not as a ratio. If you have any questions let me know! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cost + Time Analysis Of Growing Cannabis. m0use’s Breakdown +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Light Schedule === Veg [Dec 18th 2021 - Mar 11th 2022] 18h on 6h off - 6am-12pm Flower [Mar 12th 2022 - May 10th 2022] 12h on 12h off - 9am-9pm This is extra tricky this harvest as I went through 2 different hydro rates in three different periods, plus a veg and bloom switch between them. Mon-Fri are TOU rates, all weekends are off-peak pricing all day. Off Peak = 7pm-7am + all weekend Mid peak = 11am-5pm On peak = 7am-11am + 5pm-7pm TOU rates: Dec 18th 2021-Jan 17th 2022 Cost of kwh with on-peak "17.0c", mid-peak "11.3c" and off-peak "8.2c". Jan 18th 2022 - Feb 7th 2022 Cost of kwh with on-peak "8.2c", mid-peak "8.2c" and off-peak "8.2c". Feb 8th 2022 - Current Cost of kwh with on-peak "17.0c", mid-peak "11.3c" and off-peak "8.2c". — Dec 18th 2021-Jan 17th 2022 Weekdays “21 days” 6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 7am - 11am -- 4hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak 5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak Weekends “10 days” 6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 6h @17.0c/kwh 6h @11.3c/kwh 6h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends — Jan 18th 2022 - Feb 7th 2022 Weekdays “15 days” 6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 7am - 11am -- 4hr @8.2c/kwh on-peak 11am - 5pm --6hr @8.2c/kwh mid-peak 5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @8.2c/kwh on-peak 7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak Weekends “6 days” 6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 18h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends — Feb 8th 2022 - Harvest Veg Feb 8th - March 11th 2022 weekdays “24 days” 6am - 7am -- 1hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 7am - 11am -- 4hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak 5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 7pm - 12am -- 5hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak weekends “8 days” 6am - 12am – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 6h @17.0c/kwh 6h @11.3c/kwh 6h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends — Flower March 12 - May 10th 2022 weekdays “42 days” 9am - 11am -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 11am - 5pm --6hr @11.3c/kwh mid-peak 5pm - 7pm -- 2hr @17.0c/kwh on-peak 7pm - 9am -- 2hr @8.2c/Kwh off-peak weekends “18 days” 9am - 9pm – 18hr @8.2c/kwh off-peak 4h @17.0c/kwh 6h @811.3c/kwh 2h @8.2c/kwh + [email protected]/kwh weekdays/weekends — Total hours in each peak period 126+144+168 = 438h @17.0c/kwh 126+144+252 = 522h @11.3c/kwh 306+378+288+300 = 1,272h @8.2c/kwh Lights === LED’s I use are 48w and 18w, per stick, they are arranged on an array totaling 300w. 6400k 18w*6 = 108w + 3000k 48w*4 = 192 108w+192w=300w | 300w/1000 = 0.3Kw * note I am using 150w as stated in my disclaimers to account for the missing plant in a separate diary.* Using the previous c/kwh numbers above I can find out the total cost of the lamps in the 3 peak periods. I converted the cents into dollar amounts beforehand to avoid dividing by 100. 8.2c/h = 0.082$/h 438h * 0.17c/kwh = $74.46kw * 0.15kw = $11.17 on peak 522h * 0.113c/kwh = $58.99kw *0.15kw = $8.85 mid peak 1,272h * 0.082c/kwh = $104.30kw *0.15kw = $15.65 off peak The "h" hours and "kw" kilowatts cancel out and we are left with a value of $ dollars per peak period, add all the peak periods up and you get your total cost of running the lights in dollars. $11.17 + $8.85 + $15.65 = $35.67 for the grow light only. My light grew for 20 weeks and 4 days, or 144 days. almost 21 weeks total. $35.67 / 144d = 0.2477$/d average of about 25c a day in electricity 337.2kw for the entire grow. Using the regular calculation of grams harvested divided by watts used is not accurate to me, it does not account for all the time the lamps are on, the length of grow to the over all cost. The calculation that makes sense to me is this, harvested dry weight of usable cannabis buds/trim/keif/whatever in grams divided by total kw used. Could also combine it with grams per total single use costs “anything you used only for this grow and wont reuse in the next, or fractions of multi use items like fertilizers if they ½ full” and see how much you’re investing per gram. "kw" ÷ "g" = kw/g "$" ÷ "g" = $/g I have harvested 4.57oz or 129.6g on 337.2kw. 337.2kw ÷ 129.6g = 2.60 kw/g of usable cannabis. This is not an ideal ratio for me and looks like a lot of energy waste happened from the extended veg period. $35.67 ÷ 129.6g = 0.28c/g It cost 28c/g when comparing total electricity cost to gross yield, almost identical to the comparison of total electrical cost to the number of days in the grow 25c/day. Neat! legend, kwh = kilowatt per hour kw = kilowatt w = watt h = hour c = cents $ = dollars d = day LED= Light Emitting Diode
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