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weeks 4-8, 10-12
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weeks 7, 14, 17
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weeks 4
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weeks 5-6, 11-12
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Grow medium
Coco Coir
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Week 8
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gottagrowsometime gottagrowsometime
3 years ago
Flowering Week 8 D50. Done HST on the first set of nodes and 1 node on the 2nd set of the CBD. Reason I didn't do the 2nd node on the 2nd set cause I want to see the comparison as both bud sites were more or less the very same size before HST was applied. I know, HST it to be desired on autos. But it's only on the lowest nodes and I'm thinking they'll have well enough time to recover as I didn't do the whole plant. 13/2/22 Increased the PPM by 100 and will continue to do so right up until flush. 14/2/22 Done a measurement on both hydros. Zkittlez is growing at an alarming rate, if she doesn't slow down I think I'm going to have a real height issue. May even lead to me having to get a larger tent. She's topping out at 55cm that 15cm in 7 days folks, her organic sister is just hitting 40-43, CBD's on the other hand has barley moved in 2.5weeks, hitting just 42cm her organic sister is larger with 45cm. All plants with the exception of CBD HYDRO has been getting bushier and taller. Interesting results. 15/2/22 I'm gonna have really problems if Zkittlez Hydro keeps growing the way she is, she should be focusing on producing flower at this stage she well ahead in ways but behind in other crucial ways, I'm putting it down to her starting her own DWC cause right up until 2 weeks ago she was a runt. And now she's outta control so to speak. I'm going to have to start making spacers for the top and start stringing string up around the top 4 bars and start doing some LST outwards on top. Cause if I don't I can't see it helping THC/BUD production. Maybe if I do some heavy defoliation it will start to put her into flower? 16/2/22 Dunno what I'm going to do with the CBD hydro I'll have my microscope this week and will ask is she ready to harvest. She hasn't changed in a week. 17/2/22 PROBLEMS. Looks like I have been hit by "the claw", and no, I did not name this. This is what it's called. It's when your plant is showing signs of stress, it happens more in autos rather than phenotypes, I'm assuming this is down the fact autos have such a short life, and can run into these problems I'm going to list, even though I'm 95% sure what my issue is, that might not be the case for you. So here they are, if you need more help please message me: Nitogen Tox, wind burn, overwatering, underwatering, too many nutes leading to; nute lockout, just too many different diverse delivery methods of the same nutrient, cause the plant the lock that nute out, this is a very rare case, as we give our plants the likes of micro enzymes to break down nutes and help uptake. Drainage is too good not allowing enough water to be trapped, Magnesium deficiency, light is too high. That's really all I can think off. Mine is a case of 2 factors and also maybe a 1/3 with the plant been done so early, just ready to chop, but I doubt it. I'll that by the end of the week, waiting on microscope. I did do a run-off test and it 2300 PPM. Should not be that high, meaning; nute lockout. Too many nutes causing lockout. So, for the fix, I've flushed the plant twice and even on the 2nd 5l distilled water the PPM was still 12-1500 I think. But, then I decided because I have not drained the Zkittlez plate in over 2 weeks I checked her PPM nearly fuking 8500ppm I nearly dropped dead. Had a close look and she is also showing very very early stages of "the claw" pics above^. Some light nute burn but because the lockout was soo bad, it's why I'm starting to see that horrible light green color on the zkittlez. Fix: flushed twice. Am taking 3 nutes off the chart. And doing 3 nutes a day then changing the clearing the run-off, doing a flush and starting her on her new 3 a day. Hopefully this will fix her. Fix 'em both CLAW UPDATE: With my plant being so close to harvest, I'm not all 2 worried about this. But, it would be great if I can fix this. I've added extra mg after 36hrs of flushing and started back on 1/3 NPK+MICROS+ SENSI CAL MAG EXTRA. Thinking I'm gonna cut most of the nutes out and focus on bloom boosters and sugars. Either way, it's gonna be possible the worst harvest to date on this platform πŸ˜‚ Thanks for reading, Ha messaged fastbuds and they just said its the luck of the draw. Will update with pics on the tricks. 18/2/22 lots going on this week. some early sign my plants are running into trouble, well my hydros to be exact. Think I've figured it out. Ordered airports and there were way too big. So, I used the base, which fit in the lowest groove on the inside. But I made the pot itself smaller by folding it over into a cone and then used ties through the end of the airpot holes into the base mesh, but in doing so, I left the 4 molded stand holes on the outside with some of the pot going over and roots had grown into it and from weeks of run-off it clearly built up with salts and so on and was drinking high EC/salt built up water. That and the run-off from the plate was 8500ppm, which is crazy, so the roots were drinking the water and leaving nutes behind or somehow it built up on the plate from being stagnant water, only reason I can think why the PPM would be soooo high, and the readings are correct I checked with a superior friends ppm/ph 300e meter and I got the same ph and ppm was 8550 50 PPM more (early signs are a foresight into future problems with your plant, signs to watch out for, "the claw", nitrogen tox"discoloration on the backs of leafs","burnt tips", odd coloring of the leafs, browning stem, which is the worst that can happen, google for more info on that, but you will see signs of the claw before any deficiency like magnesium comes up, so if you watch out for signs of "the claw" pic above, you are in with a chance of fixing it, it can also be caused my many other issues that I go into above ). So my pen is good. Drmeter, btw, PH PEN MUSTS; you have to store the diode the part that reads the PH in a buffer solution.( buffer 4ph-7ph.), dont usectap water as the chlorine and that will ruin your readings also. Otherwise after a few weeks you won't get proper readings, do this unless stated otherwise my manufacturer. Report and results on what was done this wk. Well it's been one of my hardest/busiest weeks with the hydro. I noticed late stages of "the claw", so I went through a few things and figured it was nute lock thanks to the CBD I saw early signs of the claw on my zkittlez hydro and done a PPM reading from run-off was 8500 so the roots drinking from the plate were just drinking the water and leaving the nute behind. Flushed 3 times over 24hrs 6.3ph distilled water. Restarted her on her nutes but instead of making a mix I broke it down into 3 different mixes adding micro to each they all stayed around 1400 when being poured on. 3 days later I checked the RUN-OFF and it was in the low 500s 510ppm to be exact. So Nitogen tox is gone, aswell as light mg def that had started to show I think, it's also gone and nute lock, the claw has stopped on both plant so a hard wk but a success all the same. Happy Growing, stay safe gottagrowsometime
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Grow Questions
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 3 years ago
Okay this might be a stupid question, bare with me, I'm new to this. So, it says ph on the sides of some bottles some are 3.5 but go all the way up to 7.8. How will this effect my set ph 6.3 ph setup I'll be using before I put the nutes in. Will I have to add ph down. Read down..
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Plant. Other
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Greenthumb84
Greenthumb84answered grow question 3 years ago
I check ec level before I add any nutes to get a base line then check again after adding. I wait usually 15-20min and check pH with the tester and ph down accordingly I'm running hydro and I bring mine to 5.8 and let rise and lower as needed to allow all nutes to be taken in. Hope this helps!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 3 years ago
Nutes question. So, my order finally came, and I have 14 AN. But my question is, though the 2 weeks of growth are over can I slip in a weeks feed of Pirana&Tarantula or will I just wait for the first 2 weeks in flower as directed by feeding chart? Will it hurt the process?
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Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question 3 years ago
Hello Piranha & Tarantula are just friendly fungus and microbes that attach to the roots and help gather sugar for the plant. You can't hurt anything if you use it at small doses with every watering. Chuck.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 3 years ago
Does anyone have any questions to as why CBD HYDRO has looked like it's reached its full maturity, I know it's not going to get any bigger prob just bigger buds right? That can't all I'm gonna get is it? My others hydro looks ok, this has a full smell profile. 2nd pic okay!
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
Some plants mature faster then others, it the luck of the draw with autos. Sometimes they veg for 3 weeks other times 7. Your cbd is faster along its track then the zkittles plant. It is not yet done though, Once buds form they will start to smell and get sticky. If you growing the same seeds and strains you will notice some strain are more smelly then others or just have different smells. That's its Phenotype expression. It looks like it will continue to thicken up and maybe grow a bit more taller but nothing crazy in term of height. Keep at it, they are looking good. Best Of Luck!
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Spirit4i20
Spirit4i20commentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with cultivation! that it grows beautiful πŸ™ŒπŸ‘ŠπŸ‘Œ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Spirit4i20, thanks pal. Gonna look at yours now.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiacommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@homerjgangia, thanks man. At to running into a major prob. My €350 of Advanced nutritions have been lost. It also had my 4 1l 410l pots, lst gear, coco+perlite. Looking like going to have to go the organic route. Thanks for the support.
LittleJohn
LittleJohncommentedweek 03 years ago
Good luck and happy growingπŸ˜ŽπŸ’šπŸ™πŸ»
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@LittleJohn, thanks for dropping by pal.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 53 years ago
Hey! Thank you so much for running this diary, Great detail! Looking forward to your harvest! Happy Growing & Good luck!🌱
fast_buds_jessie
fast_buds_jessiecommentedweek 103 years ago
Hey there! Thanks so much for running this diary, hope you enjoy the harvest 😎 Happy Harvest πŸ™Œ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@fast_buds_jessie, hey, thanks very much for dropping by.
Y0ink
Y0inkcommentedweek 03 years ago
Good Luck! Wish you the best! πŸ’ͺπŸ™πŸ’š
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Y0ink, Thanks for the support pal. Hope yours are well too, will be dropping in on you soon to have a look.
Balankaya
Balankayacommentedweek 03 years ago
Wow that looks damn interesting! Good luck with your cultivation friend!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Balankaya, Thanks for the support my man. Going to look through yours now. Needing tips.
GangbudsGenesgdl
GangbudsGenesgdlcommentedweek 03 years ago
Buena suerte y feliz crecimiento πŸ‘Š 😎
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@GangbudsGenesgdl, Thanks pal. Gonna have a look at your diary now, need all the tips I can get
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40commentedweek 03 years ago
Wish you best of luck and happy growing πŸ™ŒπŸ˜€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Cannabeast40, Cheers pal. Look forward going through your diares and learning q few things.
spyder
spydercommentedweek 13 years ago
good luck with the grow....enjoy.
spyder
spydercommented3 years ago
@gottagrowsometime, right on...πŸ‘
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@spyder, thanks pal, it's been a good journey so far.
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommentedweek 103 years ago
It happens sometimes...you get an auto that behaves a little more like a photo. That Zkittlez will be beastly if you stay on track and feed her well. She's gonna take a while...but yes, she might even be a half-pounder...
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Silverback_Guerilla, yeah I'm hoping she'll be a beast and not a popcorn bonanza. Yeah she's weeks off from being done. There is sooo many bud sites all in dif stages. I was gonna strip all the underdeveloped growth but there is so much of it that I'll probably be better off doing 2 harvests. Top half and then give the rest however long it'll take. But more than likely she has another 4-5 wks left. Just a guess, but yeah we will see. Thanks for dropping by.
Kynareth
Kynarethcommentedweek 43 years ago
nice job
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Kynareth, thanks pal. Gonna look thru ur now! Thanks for dropping by.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 133 years ago
Looking good man those are for sure getting nice and caked out!
comunidadgreen
comunidadgreencommentedweek 73 years ago
Mucha suerte para la fase de floraciΓ³n!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@comunidadgreen, me 2, thanks for dropping by.
ZoobZoob_farmZ
ZoobZoob_farmZcommentedweek 103 years ago
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FullTankGardens
FullTankGardenscommentedweek 113 years ago
Awesome job bro.... I was reading your comment on your grow and seen that you thought you had pH lock in your runoff was high at like 28 or so and I just wanted to let you know if you use dry amendments in your soil your plants will only take in what they need from the soil. Whereas using liquid nutrients in your water they intake that water so the intake all those nutrients at once. if you amend your soil they take them in as needed... This is my first cannabis grow but my brother has managed three greenhouses in the past and now he has a huge grow of his own for medicinal in missouri.
FullTankGardens
FullTankGardenscommented3 years ago
@gottagrowsometime, LOL yeah I understand, don't want to waste the pots u bought... You could go and grab you some 3gal hortipots on Amazon they r great grow bags 10 pack for like 15 I think it was. Good luck man I hope it grows into a beautiful little lady
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@FullTankGardens, doesn't matter if it's your first grow, if you know what to do you know what to do. And what you said makes sense. And I prob would go that route if I hadn't of bought 2 19l DWC pots lol. But will keep in future if I decide to do any more organic grows. As they are really very little maintenance. Thanks for dropping by buddy.
DutchGrownGreens
DutchGrownGreenscommentedweek 153 years ago
looking nice and frosty :)!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@DutchGrownGreens, oh man. I just took a tester. The pic is a few pics back and it had no hints of purple and looked nothing like them, and you can sew all the clear trichs. Had .45 cone back from 2.1 and fuck me it's so strong and is hardly done. And we still have 2 wks of flowering and hopefully she'll pack on nice l9ng trichs/resin. You can see sugar/trich balls when you look up close. It's top quality bud. Delighted, and very st9ned atm lol. Just smoked the. 45 tester a joint/b9ng and I'm waxed. Bit harsh and she had lots of clear trichs and was far from being done. Thanks for dropping by buddy!!!
Godesskat
Godesskatcommentedweek 93 years ago
Good luck with your grow mate!πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Godesskat, thanks mate, nice looking grows yourself. DWC rocks can't wait to give it a bash.
Dean1
Dean1commentedweek 83 years ago
Yep my other diary had the same problem they stayed short all the way through I had 4 down and they were all between 40/60cm i think I might not have stored them properly Iv had the seeds about 6 months in a bag in the shed I did have 2 down to begin with but one died it was even smaller than that one πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈIv put another 2 down to make up for the loss they have sprouted and got their first leaves and seem to be doing ok Iv not started a diary yet I’m going to see how they grow first. Thanks for the advice on re vegging I suppose I’ll have to see how much it stretches over the next few weeks good luck with the rest of your grow and hopefully it’s more than just a few Gs at the end πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimecommented3 years ago
@Dean1, that's the thing about seeds they do ok for short time max 2-3 weeks out of reg temp which should be between 8-10 degrees. Does ur area reach that low in temp. But even if it does at night I'm sure it's not 24/7. Idk, some seeds strains can be weird. I gave my friend 2 Zkittlez that were left over, kept em in my bedroom and lowest temp there is 21c and he planted 2 weeks ago after 6 wks of been in my room and they only 1 germinate. And that is lookin like shes gonna be a runt but early days. Best 2 just buy new seeds they cost very little. Best of luck anyways pal.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmcommentedweek 103 years ago
With your temps on the cooler side you will for sure have some super dense caked nugs. You could gently and slowly walk those temps up to meet at were you should be for flower at this stage which would be 77 lights on & no more than 9 degrees less with lights off. Your bud development stage has not ended yet so we can squeeze a bit more size out of them if we catch it soon enough now.