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2 years ago
D113.She was fed 300ml of water 30mins before harvest to prolong drying period. So, after her 15hrs rest, I took half of her, probably around 60% 410.5g wet after I took all the fan leafs, most sugar leafs. Left on the stuff with the most trichs, looks a little leafy but lots of that growth half way down and going into the bud is covered on long trichs. As I'll be keeping that trim, so better to let it dry on the plant. Had some trouble getting it into the boxes. I punched loads of holes and was going to put the box on its side so it could hang dry. But it was just wayyy too much hassle. I'll rotate the buds every 12hrs. Rooms RH is 40% room temp 21.5c. Tents RH has dropped down 2 44% 45% when I walk into the room, sensor is so sensitive, gives perfect RH/TEMP every time. Only a 5% difference in the room compared to the tent. Was 10-15 in it's highest before I got this great dehuimifier. As for the bud, was really really sticky. I literally have dirt/ash stuck in the groves/fingerprints. I've washed my hands 4 times. Now I'm left to rub my fingers together to roll out the stickiness. Crazy high resin filled bud. Man I'm so happy I decided to give her a dark rest period before chopping half. Have open up the whole lower half. I took some bud that you could still see prob would have gotten bigger. But as the plant has stopped feeding, I had to take what I could and leave enough young bud to kick her back into feeding. Fingers crossed. Theres at least 3-400g wet left on her. 410 so far. I'd say 50-80g of that is stem. Let's see what happens lowered her ppm to 1100ppm. 6.25 PH. Tried keeping in the same as the flush water which is 6.3. Update. Decided to hang dry 60% of the bud. Just strung a few line across the box and hung what I could. Sticky isn't the word for what she's putting out at the moment. Full of sugar balls. Didn't want the bud going all felt. After final trim I'll put up bud shots, smoke review. Trichs were 90% cloudy last night before lights went out. Everything turned cloudy almost but the 10-15% that was taken to help produce more explosive growth. I want at least another 3-400g wet. Bit hard to see it there, but the bud is there for there to be that much again if she takes off. If she is stalled and won't eat she finish and it'll be 100g wet of larf/bud full of stigma that'll just turn amber and be weak bud. Fingers crossed she's bloom again. Throw her back on big bud coco. Cut her PPM by 500 and will do a run off test 2moro to see if that number is gone down from the 1100 feed to 5-600 it should be. If it's above 1100 it means no nute uptake and it's also gathering the nute/flawless finish that was left behindz I tried flushing as much as I could but the PPM was still 250 after 25mins of constant flushing. After learning more about autos over the months for the last 3 weeks I've been pushing up the light time. She's actually 20-4 now. I started her on a 18-6, down to a 15.30-8.30 pushed her back to 18-6 now after half harvest I'm hoping she's push back into feeding. I'll know on her next hard flush. So, good new good news. Got a bit of run-off back from the 1100ppm feed. Was 490ppm. Starting to feed again. Yup Yup. Back on big bud coco for 2 weeks. Few days off that and a wk of overdrive, maybe 10 days, depends how they are getting on and how she's feeding. Am going to bring PPM back up by 100 tomorrow and get back up to 1400ppm. But this stage, there's no nute burn so I'm going to give water feeds on every 2nd day, as opposed to feeding everyday. I'm just going to fill her up on nutes, just enough so she doesn't give much back and then the next day that same amount in water. Should keep her heating regular and not be shocked by a hard flush every week. Trying something new. Let's see if we get better results. Happy so far, if I can get 300 more wet, as she is 48cm tall. Lots of bud sites, small larfy but the potential is there for them to be dense like the top side. Let's see. Going to focus heavy on PK. Gonna pull back on the enzymes&tarantula also. No need as they have done all there gonna do in an ineart substrate the plant got it's benefit of them. It kept and very big uneven plant in a state of growth, yes, she stalled, but that was explained why, the short of it is, (as the plant draws food from the top of the node, it that top is done and is only wanting water she's onot going to draw up water. And leave nutes behind. It's why the top slowed down, stopped feeding 2weeks ago and stalled the lower ends) 8/4/22 Pushed up her PPM by 200 last night by way of increasing B-52, mainly PK. Gave her 1.5l of water 12hrs later, and I got about 300ml of run-off that cane in at 480 from 1300ppm. Really well, delighted she has pushed back into feeding as she has been just drinking water. Even the flawless finish she wouldn't take any of that. She was just drinking water. So, thinking of it now and the 80-100g fry I'm gonna get back, more around the 80mark after I remove the bud from the nodes/stems, (Once it's dry, not before) I should be left in the 80range. I decided to fast track some bud, as at the moment I'm smoking dust from my box, so 6.5 stem that weighted earlier was thrown into the eletric dryer. When she hits into 4.5-5g she'll be ready to smoke. Shes frosty as f..k, already lost around 2/3s of it's wet weight, which is too fast, it dawned on me, I've the weed in the room with the dehuimifier, (fuck), not good. Weed should dry naturally, no wind/air flow from fans should be used. Yes, there needs to be air flow, but it should be o'natural. Air dried weed loses terps, resin, thc and drying to quick will give your bud a planty/earthy smell that's not meant to be coming through, yes, a cure will bring back her taste but just let her dry out natural. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I've compared quick dried bud to natural dried bud and the difference is like night&day. Also, air dried bud will go flat and if you are using a drying net/rack make sure to rotate your buds every 12hrs or so, this will stop them from falling in on each other. Esp if you aren't dealing with dense bud. With this though, that's not the case. The bud density is a lot better than the organic that went through a 70%RH for most of her flowering period. This bud is like 3 times stronger. Sativa buzz lasts about 15mins and then a good luck in the face from indica. But is covered in dense hard nugs, the bud for the most part is like this. The rest for density I'd give it about a 7.5/10. Yield 9/10 Quality 9/10 THC level reached 80-90% of the 22% given on paper. She's defo into or very near 20% THC. I'm even thinking of sending some to get it tested for kicks. But as not a 1grain of my bud will be sold, EVER. It'll only be for my personal use, but as she's already put out 410 wet and maybe another 200+ I'm looking at maybe 150g dry. And yes, I will be posting proof of dry weight. 9/4/22 92.5 G DRY of dehuimified bud. Yup, I used a dehuimifier. 1stly it was partly by mistake. Yday, before going out for 12hrs after chopping my bud I closed my door, it was only last night when I was emptying the dehuimifier it was so full of water, I didn't make sense, then I looked up and seen my bud, quickly felt it, weighted it and was topping out at 215. So, I decided to keep going, closed the door and it's been running since yday until dismorning and then 12 hours I let it rest. 100% pure sticky, I actually couldn't believe it. It was like it was 100% long dried. That was the plan. But the difference alone in the 4.5g of bud that was dried in the electric dryer, was a bit sticky, but this is GREAT. It's like it was 100% long dried. I know I don't have a lot of drying experience but I love this method. I'm going to dry the rest of her hang drying in the tent with TDA. And then I'll truly know, but alone the rest of the zkittlez plant has now optimal RH it'll be hard to tell as the bud will be even stronger than what I've already gotten. Which is very very close to 20% THC. Has to be 18%, has to be. It's so strong. 25%Sativa75%Indica. Nice uplifting feeling then a strong head stone comes on. The terps are there and all, but you can get a hint of earthyness, idk if this is normal with zkittlez? But it stinks of a weird, well that smell that only zkittlez has, it's hard to explain if u haven't grown it. I've decided it's not to harsh so gonna cure the guts of it, well it'll cure as I'm smoking it, probably last about a month, if that. I'll go into more detail about the smell effects after 2wks cure should be half left by then. 2.5gs a day keeps boredom away. So first big harvest with damm good bud, I know I'm biast, but it is tops, trust me, I'd be pissed if it wasn't. Chuffed.com. hopefully another 50g dry to come. 92.5 isn't bad for a starter, oh and I took .5 or some shit last wk right, so 93 total. Yup Yup giddy up. DELIGHTED. Can truly say, these grows haven't been without their issues, but now having the gear I do, top dehuimifier, new nute sponsor, moving into DWC fun grows ahead, with what I've learnt, the signs of the plants when to give what, extra/less when to introduce bloom and not go by a fucking chart that says give bloom after 4 wks on a plant that doesn't bloom until wk 7. After I dry the rest of this plant depending on how THE quality is ill be dehuimfying it. And top tip, be sure to fully trim as the amount of dried sugar leafs that have crowed into the bud is a bit much, smokeable and all but ill be pulling out or not depending on how stoned I get. Lesson learnt do a full trim, I was planning to do the whole box but when I seen how much water was taken out it was already too late. And i spent a good 2 hours just taking the bud off all the stems and removed 95% of unsmokeable trim. Also stuff like that with really hard to control RH, even still on this run with all the growing the plant has left and with having a top dehuimifier I know I can even get a better end product. Really excited to see what I can do. Fun times ahead guys!! Watch this space!!! 9/4/22 Plant update. She's doing well, responding well to the extra light, no droopy leafs, no light stress, just like I thought there'd be none. Hasn't stalled, if anything it helped push her back into feeding and is keeping RH below 45 for the most part. Have called it quits on the dehuimifier, has totally cleared my house of dampness whole house has been at 45-48 since she was last turned on 10hrs ago. If RH gets into the 50's I'll put it back on but for now, they are fine, more than, they've lived most there lives in 60+ so. I'm sure they'll finish fine on 50+ 55 max. Upped the PPM. She has slowed down on her amount of feed 1.2l every 24hra she can hold. She got 1.2 L of what you see above, 2moro she'll get 1.2 of 1500 again I'll Just be getting there differently. More PK. So .1ml of coco B bloom and .5 extra of .5 B-52 I'll lower coco bloom part A .5 and something else like bud factor should even it out. And keep her in the 1500 range. Then in 2 days 1.25l of water hopefully get few 100ml and she goes she's feeding. Good bye till then. Gonna enjoy my bud for a few days. D114.5 Took a heavy feed last night on the chin, no signs of nute burn/tip burn. Buds are responding well, only a couple days, so it's hard to tell if she's gone back into making bud, but she's feeding. Can't run the run-off test till later. Seem to be taking the light increase well also. 20-4 we are going to finish them on. Yeah yeah I know, shouldn't be fucking with the light, well it hasn't done any harm I can see as of yet, so.....Yup. lots&lots of numb mistakes, massive learning from these grows. So, drying my bud fast was a mistake, thanks for the tip bro! Seen below in comments. So, will 100% be hang drying the rest of the girls. Gonna chop, full trim and then hang dry it upside down in a 50RH room. But hey, look, nothing ventured, nothing gained, or some shit like that!! Lots of lessons learnt. Your 1st grow is sadly going to be brutal for your girls, r if you wanna play it safe and pull 30-40g go for it, I want big monster buds, quality, fuck quantity. Give me 1 g of Quality of 10g of quantity bud anyday. This is quality/quantity. I done pure quality, organic bud, was beautiful and all, lovely tasty tasty smoke, very smooth were as this is a little more harsh, just a tad. You can't get 100% rid when you are using so many non organic nutes. Heavy metals galore. BAD NEWS UPDATE: Well, it looks like as though I left it too long before taking the colas that has stopped feeding. After harvest I checked her last night and 70% of what was stigma has turned amber. So, she's gonna finish off as she is larfy and airy. Will still be good bud, just not 50g more like 20-30max. Am going to focus on bud factor x/bud candy for the next 2 weeks. Gonna pull back on overall NPK and push sugars. And maybe I'll finish her off on the 2nd wk with overdrive. Will cut big bud coco after this week, as to make sure I don't get rust spots again by mixing overdrive/big bud coco. Changed the PPM down from 1500 to 900 and will give 1.3 weeks on overdrive and then flawless finish for a week ppm will be around 250ppm. D119 Tool 3 top parts of the bud that was 100% done. Will be harsh but the bud underneath is so far behind and is in stall mode as these tops were only drawing up water. So to help the lower growth I took these 17.9 G wet off to get more bud. Total 428g wet 98.2 G Dry took 4 days to dry the 17.9 I got 4.2 or something back. Still a little wet but smokes nice in the bong and joints and very strong much stronger than what I quick dried, and the taste is much much better. Still a little planty but a cure will bring out that zkittlez taste/smell, if I wasn't smoking it. Okay, so the much stronger is right. But now the stone is COMPLETELY different. She's defo a 50/50 indica Sativa now, idk if this is down to the way it was dried or what. So here's the stone. Extremely excited, but nit a excited get up and do stuff, hell no, Im way to stoned to be doing anything, im having trouble writing this even. Yes, I'm uplifted but also in the mood to do NOTHING. Sit back and get baked. It's defo in the middle. Still not a day time smoke though, she's just too poeerful. Really really nice stuff here. Delighted with this new type of zkittlez as I was getting a little tired and tbh fairly use to the high. Defo be growing multiple strains next time for choice. Peace and thanks for reading! Be sure to drop a like so I can check out your grows when im back. Keep the growings a going๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฟ๐ŸŒท gottagrowsometime
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Grow Questions
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 2 years ago
Okay this might be a stupid question, bare with me, I'm new to this. So, it says ph on the sides of some bottles some are 3.5 but go all the way up to 7.8. How will this effect my set ph 6.3 ph setup I'll be using before I put the nutes in. Will I have to add ph down. Read down..
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Greenthumb84
Greenthumb84answered grow question 2 years ago
I check ec level before I add any nutes to get a base line then check again after adding. I wait usually 15-20min and check pH with the tester and ph down accordingly I'm running hydro and I bring mine to 5.8 and let rise and lower as needed to allow all nutes to be taken in. Hope this helps!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 2 years ago
Nutes question. So, my order finally came, and I have 14 AN. But my question is, though the 2 weeks of growth are over can I slip in a weeks feed of Pirana&Tarantula or will I just wait for the first 2 weeks in flower as directed by feeding chart? Will it hurt the process?
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Chucky324
Chucky324answered grow question 2 years ago
Hello Piranha & Tarantula are just friendly fungus and microbes that attach to the roots and help gather sugar for the plant. You can't hurt anything if you use it at small doses with every watering. Chuck.
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimestarted grow question 2 years ago
Does anyone have any questions to as why CBD HYDRO has looked like it's reached its full maturity, I know it's not going to get any bigger prob just bigger buds right? That can't all I'm gonna get is it? My others hydro looks ok, this has a full smell profile. 2nd pic okay!
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
Some plants mature faster then others, it the luck of the draw with autos. Sometimes they veg for 3 weeks other times 7. Your cbd is faster along its track then the zkittles plant. It is not yet done though, Once buds form they will start to smell and get sticky. If you growing the same seeds and strains you will notice some strain are more smelly then others or just have different smells. That's its Phenotype expression. It looks like it will continue to thicken up and maybe grow a bit more taller but nothing crazy in term of height. Keep at it, they are looking good. Best Of Luck!
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Spirit4i20
Spirit4i20week 0
Good luck with cultivation! that it grows beautiful ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Œ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Spirit4i20, thanks pal. Gonna look at yours now.
LittleJohn
LittleJohnweek 0
Good luck and happy growing๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@LittleJohn, thanks for dropping by pal.
homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@homerjgangia, thanks man. At to running into a major prob. My โ‚ฌ350 of Advanced nutritions have been lost. It also had my 4 1l 410l pots, lst gear, coco+perlite. Looking like going to have to go the organic route. Thanks for the support.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 5
Hey! Thank you so much for running this diary, Great detail! Looking forward to your harvest! Happy Growing & Good luck!๐ŸŒฑ
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 0
Wish you best of luck and happy growing ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿ˜€
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Cannabeast40, Cheers pal. Look forward going through your diares and learning q few things.
fast_buds_jessie
fast_buds_jessieweek 10
Hey there! Thanks so much for running this diary, hope you enjoy the harvest ๐Ÿ˜Ž Happy Harvest ๐Ÿ™Œ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@fast_buds_jessie, hey, thanks very much for dropping by.
Y0ink
Y0inkweek 0
Good Luck! Wish you the best! ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ’š
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Y0ink, Thanks for the support pal. Hope yours are well too, will be dropping in on you soon to have a look.
GangbudsGenesgdl
GangbudsGenesgdlweek 0
Buena suerte y feliz crecimiento ๐Ÿ‘Š ๐Ÿ˜Ž
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@GangbudsGenesgdl, Thanks pal. Gonna have a look at your diary now, need all the tips I can get
Balankaya
Balankayaweek 0
Wow that looks damn interesting! Good luck with your cultivation friend!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Balankaya, Thanks for the support my man. Going to look through yours now. Needing tips.
spyder
spyderweek 1
good luck with the grow....enjoy.
spyder
spyder
@gottagrowsometime, right on...๐Ÿ‘
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@spyder, thanks pal, it's been a good journey so far.
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillaweek 10
It happens sometimes...you get an auto that behaves a little more like a photo. That Zkittlez will be beastly if you stay on track and feed her well. She's gonna take a while...but yes, she might even be a half-pounder...
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Silverback_Guerilla, yeah I'm hoping she'll be a beast and not a popcorn bonanza. Yeah she's weeks off from being done. There is sooo many bud sites all in dif stages. I was gonna strip all the underdeveloped growth but there is so much of it that I'll probably be better off doing 2 harvests. Top half and then give the rest however long it'll take. But more than likely she has another 4-5 wks left. Just a guess, but yeah we will see. Thanks for dropping by.
comunidadgreen
comunidadgreenweek 7
Mucha suerte para la fase de floraciรณn!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@comunidadgreen, me 2, thanks for dropping by.
Kynareth
Kynarethweek 4
nice job
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Kynareth, thanks pal. Gonna look thru ur now! Thanks for dropping by.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 13
Looking good man those are for sure getting nice and caked out!
zoobzoob23
zoobzoob23week 10
๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
FullTankGardens
FullTankGardensweek 11
Awesome job bro.... I was reading your comment on your grow and seen that you thought you had pH lock in your runoff was high at like 28 or so and I just wanted to let you know if you use dry amendments in your soil your plants will only take in what they need from the soil. Whereas using liquid nutrients in your water they intake that water so the intake all those nutrients at once. if you amend your soil they take them in as needed... This is my first cannabis grow but my brother has managed three greenhouses in the past and now he has a huge grow of his own for medicinal in missouri.
FullTankGardens
FullTankGardens
@gottagrowsometime, LOL yeah I understand, don't want to waste the pots u bought... You could go and grab you some 3gal hortipots on Amazon they r great grow bags 10 pack for like 15 I think it was. Good luck man I hope it grows into a beautiful little lady
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@FullTankGardens, doesn't matter if it's your first grow, if you know what to do you know what to do. And what you said makes sense. And I prob would go that route if I hadn't of bought 2 19l DWC pots lol. But will keep in future if I decide to do any more organic grows. As they are really very little maintenance. Thanks for dropping by buddy.
DutchGrownGreens
DutchGrownGreensweek 15
looking nice and frosty :)!
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@DutchGrownGreens, oh man. I just took a tester. The pic is a few pics back and it had no hints of purple and looked nothing like them, and you can sew all the clear trichs. Had .45 cone back from 2.1 and fuck me it's so strong and is hardly done. And we still have 2 wks of flowering and hopefully she'll pack on nice l9ng trichs/resin. You can see sugar/trich balls when you look up close. It's top quality bud. Delighted, and very st9ned atm lol. Just smoked the. 45 tester a joint/b9ng and I'm waxed. Bit harsh and she had lots of clear trichs and was far from being done. Thanks for dropping by buddy!!!
Godesskat
Godesskatweek 9
Good luck with your grow mate!๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Godesskat, thanks mate, nice looking grows yourself. DWC rocks can't wait to give it a bash.
Dean1
Dean1week 8
Yep my other diary had the same problem they stayed short all the way through I had 4 down and they were all between 40/60cm i think I might not have stored them properly Iv had the seeds about 6 months in a bag in the shed I did have 2 down to begin with but one died it was even smaller than that one ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธIv put another 2 down to make up for the loss they have sprouted and got their first leaves and seem to be doing ok Iv not started a diary yet Iโ€™m going to see how they grow first. Thanks for the advice on re vegging I suppose Iโ€™ll have to see how much it stretches over the next few weeks good luck with the rest of your grow and hopefully itโ€™s more than just a few Gs at the end ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometime
@Dean1, that's the thing about seeds they do ok for short time max 2-3 weeks out of reg temp which should be between 8-10 degrees. Does ur area reach that low in temp. But even if it does at night I'm sure it's not 24/7. Idk, some seeds strains can be weird. I gave my friend 2 Zkittlez that were left over, kept em in my bedroom and lowest temp there is 21c and he planted 2 weeks ago after 6 wks of been in my room and they only 1 germinate. And that is lookin like shes gonna be a runt but early days. Best 2 just buy new seeds they cost very little. Best of luck anyways pal.
LegacyMarketFarm
LegacyMarketFarmweek 10
With your temps on the cooler side you will for sure have some super dense caked nugs. You could gently and slowly walk those temps up to meet at were you should be for flower at this stage which would be 77 lights on & no more than 9 degrees less with lights off. Your bud development stage has not ended yet so we can squeeze a bit more size out of them if we catch it soon enough now.