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2 x 2 Steel Cabinet
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weeks 3-8
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weeks 3-4
Topping
weeks 3-4
Defoliation
weeks 3-10
Expanded Clay
Grow medium
Mineral Wool
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 9
Flowering
53.34
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Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
15+ conditions after
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Hydronaut Hydronaut
3 years ago
Things moved along last week with week 7 and 8 packin' on the flowers! If I am lucky she will fatten up a bit more, but she's ripening quick so chop-time may be sooner than later. Will check trichomes at the end of the week. If all continues in the right direction, could be another 8oz harvest. Finger crossed! Day 60: I was lazy today and only checked the trichomes on one bud - mid-canopy. Mostly cloudy but still some work. I will do a full body scan on the first day of week 10 and see where things are. Day 62: Still don't feel like cutting into my bud to check trichomes. I will try a 50MP DLSR and see if I can zoom and see trichome heads. My cheapie camera got a decent close up, but not close enough to see trichome color. They look done, but going to let them ride for a least another week. Trich check in week 10 will firm up the timeline. Bucket ran very stable this run. This strain was a very light eater and after I adjusted nutes down in week 4, her PH never tanked downward.
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Grow Questions
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
I’ve been topping my autos in a 3.8 sf stealth cabinet religiously at the 20ish day. In hydro that is around node 6-7. Would topping earlier giving the speed of growth that hydro provides, say at 3-4 node, make the plant less bushy and easier to manage? Ideas for tiny places?
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Techniques. Topping
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 3 years ago
The sooner you top the sooner they recover. If it's a healthy plant I try to top above the second node around day 10 or 12. I dont know why people top at higher nodes. You get too many branches trying to fight for space. I usually end up with around 30 tops from topping once.
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
I’m working with a 4 sf grow box. I topped a couple days ago and it looks like I will have 8 main branches. Removed bottom two?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
hummm..... I want to say no and get a much yield as possible. but if your space is limited it might be a wise idea. confirm the specs on the strain your growing. if it bulks up a lot or stretches a bunch might be a good idea. Good Luck!
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
PPM little over 400 now. All in check. Dark green curled tips. N tox? 50/50 leaves with tip curl. Ideas?
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Leaves. Curl down
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 3 years ago
Ummm Chow13 - raising flora micro will add significant amounts of N.. if you’re trying to dial back N with flora trio you dial back the micro. Micro is 5-0-1 Gro is 2-1-6 Bloom is 0-5-4 I guess it’s just a sensitive auto.. it does appear to be N tox but I wouldn’t react to significantly. Personally in this scenario with hydro, I would add 10-15% or so of fresh pHd water to drop that EC a bit.. Looks very good overall otherwise tho.
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
I have found this plant's water/nutrient intake is equal at 350ppm right now - end week 5. I am beginning to feel after several auto grows that the ppm requirement with GH nutrients is WAY less than what the web serves up? I doubt I can push this one beyond 500ppm? (0ppm water)
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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LeastExpectedGrower
LeastExpectedGroweranswered grow question 3 years ago
Yeah, none of the charts are terribly accurate, but then they're sort of generalized and not plant/strain specific. I was always comfy somewhere about 50% or so of the medium or light schedules depending. I could never feed any of the autos I ran more than 1.2EC, and usually closer to .9 to 1EC. These days I've moved to GH MaxiGro/MaxiBloom and use between 5-7g per feeding and it's much easier and less hassle.
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
I added my revised auto feeding chart I created for my Auto journey using GH Trio+ nutrients. This active spreadsheet makes add-backs and feeding schedules a snap. Are we getting on track here with PPM levels for Autos?
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
To add onto what Chow_13 said as I agree with most of what they are saying. The VPD chart integration would be key if the environment was swaying a lot in temps or RH, but if its not I don't think its going to make all that big of difference. I would also think it would be good to have it broken down into 3 or 2 parts per week. for small and large or small regular and large sized plants in your space. this would help account for the variance in feeding amounts. Or something that would be a live chart and you would input your res/runoff numbers and it would suggest what to do. if you wanted this to be used as a standalone reference for all growers vs yourself. Not everyone is going to have their environment nailed in as tight as you are so the feeding guides will need to be different I think. Could also note if you have a regular sized plant but a super hot room you would want to use the lower or smaller feeding guides as the plant will transpiration more giving its environment. An Ideal chart would be one that you could enter in your temps, RH, light ppfd and other variables and it pumps out data on your optimal feeding schedule. but given the work involved in that I think what you got going on right now is banging. I don't know how much more you can add to it other then feeding levels. It looks fantastic and as any grower will say you cant rely on a feed chart alone, need to listen to your plant and be flexible then adjust to what its needs are and what its showing you. The user @nobodybuds like to calculate his feedings down to the T in elemental values vs compounds. Given that Nitrogen is calculated as its single element in fertilizer ratios and Phosphorous and Potassium are calculated as their compounds based on how they used to measure things with ash. 4-4-4 is not 4-4-4 in elements. I feel if you reached out to them in DM they might be able to help you tweak this into something truly wonderful. They are like minded from my small experience with them. But honestly its already a fully functional working model to me. Good Luck!
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
What are these dark purple runs on my main branches at the base?
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Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
I also have purpleing on my Blue Cindy plant I'm growing out right now, and next to it in the same tent I have a Maltezerz with no colouring on it, they are by the same breeder, G13 Labs. I feels its all about the genetics and that some lights will express this trait more. I think that LEDS be them full spectrum have spikes in the blue/red range and this is what causes the streaks to be more evident on indoor grows, I would not be surprised if this is also linked to light intensity and how close the diodes are to the plants. I don't have any stains that I have grown indoors and outdoors to fully test this out but I would not be surprised if this is part of the case. I view it sort of like how some tomatoes will blush blue/purple or more red/pink if they are exposed to full sun on that side of the fruit. I notice apples do the same thing but its tends to be deep reds or pinks that get expressed on the sun kissed portion vs purples. Given how locked in you have things I do not think this is at all any PH stress or imbalance in nutrients. I don't know what bearings internally tend to make the plant express this. Both the ones I'm growing are Sativa dominate but the blue cindy is growing more like a Indica phenotype so who knows. I have heard that strains that are known to go purple or have fruity sents in its lineage are more likely for this. but its not scientific in any way. just anecdotal. Over all it looks to be healthy and I would not put much thought into the whys. This will follow though into the petioles for my plants that I have noticed this on. I also let my plants get quite chilly at night down to 16c and up to 28c in the day. this maybe another factor. Good Luck!
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Fresh res. New growth (cola pic) leaves are scorched a bit. Result of tox from 2+ weeks ago, still hot? My PH/PPM equilibrium is 250pmm w/ 0ppm H20. If I follow this rule (I never done), she would max out in 350ish PPM. Anyone follow the dance thru harvest? GH Trio nutes.
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Feeding. Deficiences
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PEACEMAKER
PEACEMAKERanswered grow question 3 years ago
Kinda light at 250 ppm for 6 weeks but I see u went through a stage of toxicity so it's understandable cus u have to reintroduce the nutes at low ppm so that's about right. Next feeding try to reach 450-500 ppm. They look beautiful and good luck 👍
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Is the PH spike from adding Armor Si (or the like) short term? Meaning will the PH slowly drift downward as the bucket ages through the week as it's effects wear off?
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 3 years ago
this link goes though a bit of that. I'm not overly familiar with using that line but I feel this may help shed some light onto your situation. https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-much-armor-si.982594/
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 3 years ago
Did I get cheated out of some flower time here? Any DWC Bruce Banner Auto growers finish under 10 weeks? In 7 days (9.5 weeks) I should be mostly cloudy - some amber. Breeders window of 10-14 weeks.
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Buds. Other
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 3 years ago
Hey there Hydronaut, before you chop too soon , just make sure you have absolutely no clears left , any clears and you're going to sacrifice potency. By that time you should be coasting towards the quick end of the breeder's advertised lifecycle. my best guess is you had just the right temperature for the plant to do it's job, so it worked out. you're not really allowed to complain if you go quicker than the breeder though 😅 hope this helps ! 🚀
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 2 years ago
Anyone check trichome color with a DSLR/mirrorless camera? Would 50MP cam and a macro lens get in there good enough to see?
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Other. Other
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Brewer1112
Brewer1112answered grow question 2 years ago
I do it with my mirror less camera. It does good but its worth it to buy a pocket microscope. Just a time save. You don't have to take the picture get it of the camera and zoom in close to see the tricomes. I used my macro lens for my past 2 grows. Finally spent the 30 for the microscope to save time.
Hydronaut
Hydronautstarted grow question 2 years ago
Can anyone weigh in on a 48-72 hour dark period before harvest? Worth it?
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Techniques. Other
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 2 years ago
If it makes you feel good, go nuts, do it. if you trying to cut time skip it. It stresses the plant and stress can cause increased trichomes from my understanding but how much can form in two days without light is beyond me. Good Luck!
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homerjgangia
homerjgangiaweek 0
Good luck with your grow mate!💪💪
Kynareth
Kynarethweek 0
nice grow mate!!
Hydronaut
Hydronautweek 9
I love the color I am getting in week 9! She's a goner in less than 10?
Hydronaut
Hydronautweek 7
Well I starved her for two weeks with some low PPM/low N, and bumped here back into an equilibrium last night at 400 ppm. PH stable through the night with a ppm drop. Fingers crossed for a manageable week 7. This plant pre-flowered mid-week 3 and she has fattened up quite a bit more than the other hydro auto grows I've done. Maybe a nice yield, or maybe a quick finish? I'm patient ...
Hydronaut
Hydronautweek 2
She’s a bit on the shy side compared to the other Autos I have grown to date. Not as many roots and veg growth, but healthy otherwise. All variables perfectly in check.
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 9
Hey there Hydronaut, hope i answered your question anything else you need just let me know 👊
love_2_grow
love_2_growweek 0
Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
JonASeed1977
JonASeed1977week 12
F'n beautiful job.im n week 6and half of flowering b.b. in soil.thought mine looked great until I seen what you did with yours.happy buds to all. JonA.seed