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@TaDaaDa, Thats true.... i love Mistakes... shows you the direction, as long as you reflect yourself.... well done and happy growing

@TaDaaDa, Looks like she is ready to harvest....

@Mrs_Larimar, I don't think so. There are still tons of white pistils.

@MSNL_Seeds, thanks and thank you for the seeds! One of my favorite strains so far. Second time to grow it.

@MSNL_Seeds, ... she is now in full flower.

@Stick, thanks so much for the great info!

@babbabluespear, Thanks! That was an original idea. :-) Works really well. Buy the 2 oz and the 2.5 oz and then use the tomato training wire. You can double up on the branch if it's super strong and then just adjust and move outward as it grows out of the training. If the weight is more than enough to train and bends too much, lengthen the wire and rest the weight in the soil. Adjust the length and bend to the exact training bend you need!

@Danweedman, thanks. Looks like both plants roots have now reached the super soil at the bottom of the coco loco pot. Plant 1 is really doing well and showing no signs of any issues. Plant 2 is good too, but not as fast of a grower and not as fragrant as of now.

@bobo420, thanks! Looking forward to seeing if my attempt at tap water, no PH'ing and no nutes yields anything good. Kind of the opposite of what everyone else here is doing.

@TaDaaDa,HI, how are your ladies that week=? what is your conclusion of hte answers you got last week=? anything changed?

@Mrs_Larimar, I think it's quite clear that plant 2 ran out of nutrients from the Super Soil and it affected it's bud size. It was not the light. One pot I put almost double the Super Soil in the bottom and it is the one doing much better. I raised the lights back up to 18 inches as it was burning when I went down to 10 / 12 inches. I watched it close and as soon as I saw the burn I moved it back so not much damage was done. Everyone says 1 lbs super soil per gallon of pot but mine takes about double that. Plant 2 was 5 lbs and clearly it was not enough. Hopefully plant 2 will finish strong using Canna Coco.

@TaDaaDa,i hope so to best whishes for your grow....... happy growing

@TaDaaDa,@TaDaaDa, super soil doesn't need flush is so so wrong. Again one huge misconception from people who don't understand the science of organic growing. Super soil doesn't need flush only if its made properly. Let me explain. When you make a super soil you mix your basic soil with organic amendments. These amendments at their majority (except all guano's and blood meal) are not available to the plants until the microbes in the soil decompose them. A proper recipe of super soil in order to not need a flush must be able to give only the amount of nutrients a plant will need for its entire life and not more. So if a plant starts to showing deficiencies ( especially nitrogen ) near the end of its life then you know the recipe is good. If it doesn't then you know that you put too many amendments or you had a bad ratio of regular soil and super soil. At the second case inside the soil there are nutrients at mineral form ( decomposed from the microbes and available to the plant ) and amendments that have not decomposed yet ( not available for the plant ). So what you have to do is to flush in order to get rid of that mineral nutrients so the plant will use its own. After the flush microbes will continue to decompose any amendment that have left in the soil but at lower but at lower rates since most of them have already decomposed. Off course flushing with molasses is again a huge misconception since these carbohydrates give a huge direct energy to the microbes that will start to decompose again at very high rates. What i am trying to say is super soil or not if you over do it you will have buds full of nitrates that make the smoke harsh and destroying the beautiful taste that organic growing can give.

@mad_scientist, OK point taken. This go around I want a baseline that is the least amount of effort. So this time I won't be running extra water through the plant. In either case, I still only water with tap only the entire process. So the difference would be to over saturate and create a ton of run off for a "full flush". Next time I will try that but I want to see what quality I can produce with the least effort this time. Thanks for the info on this especially related to Organic growing!

@TaDaaDa, Hi, i would harvest the "red one" these Plant looks very ready to me. with the other one you can wait a few more times

@TaDaaDa, i have topped a auto. She did alright. Check our my mainline dark devil diary. Shes the one i mainlined. I topped her at the third node maybe even the second. I wouldn't do it again thou. Ive noticed humidity doesnt play much of a factor for me. The roots are very important thou.

@wheedtobeus420, why would you not Top again?

@TaDaaDa, Because the yeild was effected and i dont have a reason too. My plants come out better when i low stess train.

@DudeGrowsWeed, I know someone who yielded 334 grams from one plant NOT Scrogged. The other plant yielded 188. If you look on here it is really hard to find anyone with those LED results. He used 2 off brand 1k LEDs. He grew in Coco. I'm going to up my lights next grow for sure. I still think based on my experience and especially confirmed here on this site that the low watt <= 300 watt LED's just won't grow monster crops. Monster meaning 334 grams on one plant NOT Scrogged. Insane and it was a first time grow.

@TaDaaDa, I'm planning on setting up another tent this fall and will be purchasing some new lights. I'm doing a lot of research into LEC's and COB LED's now. Not sure which way I will go yet. But I have a buddy growing monster plants under 2 315w LEC's now. He is scrogging, but has only 2 plants completely filling up his 4'x8' tent and yields over a pound per plant.

@DudeGrowsWeed, I don't think I want to deal with the heat but go for it and let us know! I'll probably experiment on the next grow with two 1k or 1.2k LEDs. At the same time I'm very curious to see how my pruning / defoliation works with my 300 watt LEDs. In the past my buds never got so much direct lighting and never got this much breeze.

@JusGrowIt88, I agree that 7.5 is not ideal. I am trying an experiment this time around to see what I can grow with the least amount of effort. No nutes (homemade composted and amended soil), no PPM, no hydro, no PH of water and finally using tap water (hence the 7.5). Plant 1 is starting to put on weight and plant 2 will come around I think, but it's growing completely different. Only variables are that it is under a different 300w LED and it sprouted 3 days after plant one. It seems like it is 2 to 3 weeks behind plant 1 even though it's only a few days. Plant 1 went to flower very fast. When I moved the lights super close I watched it closely everyday and when I saw burn I moved it back. I didn't know until then how close I could get. I think I'm solid now at 18 inches. As far as temps, I can't really get lower temps as the area does not have AC but is in a cool/er area. Thank you for the good ideas and suggestions on lights!

@TaDaaDa, our most welcome. And experimenting is great, that is how we learn and grow. The plants do not look harmed at all so what you are doing is working quite well. 18 inches sounds a lot safer 😊. My house I just use AC to control the entire house. Being in the basement sure helps the temps highs. Maybe you could invest in a small AC unit for the room your growing in? Where I am I could find a unit for $75-100. Will check back on your grow soon. Nice chatting and best of luck with the girls 👍👊