SF-1000 + P1000 Banana PP 2 dif phenos

Welcome: thanks for dropping by. Be sure to drop a like so I know you viewed and I'll pop onto see what you got a going, or not, it's up to you. This lady will be ran on a mix of 3 different nutrient brands. I germinated her in La Calavera/Voodoo juice, atlas and La Sirena from Terra Power. Y I called La Calavera voodoo juice you probably wondering. Well here's a little bit of info. So terra power is new, but they are far from new to the understanding of what makes great nutrients, these ppl are the ones who actually make their own nutrients they don't get specialists to do it. For example. Terra Power are the ones who hold the pattens and make some of ANs best products that made them who they are today. They've taken most of ANs line up and perfected it with modern day research with autos/ruderails and leds in mind. They haven't changed 3 core nutes which we all know as Voodoo juice, tarantula and Piranha, yup u read it. These guys are the makers (patten holders) of all that top widely used award winning nutrients. Even if you look at there base nutes what's in them, will blow u away. Have a look for yourself. Led-grower.eu/terra-power/ you'll see a chart with AN product names and an = sign beside it and the corresponding terra power nute that they have perfected upon will be beside it. Also for 70e a L Piranha they charge 50e a L for the exact same stuff just a dif name. There base nutes start as little as 8e. The Piranha and tarantula will be the most expensive as they are the same on AN just not as expensive as 70e. Very excited to see what there 50 billion microbes per 1ml enzyme will do aswel as the bud/resin foiler enhancer sprays, or you can use them in the substrate or hydroponics. Was surprised that the PH was perfect for these 3 nutes it came in at 6 exactly with my new milwalkee meters I can 100% trust the readings. PPM was 627 idk which one did it, as Voodoo juice has no EC value. I was so use to AN products I only remembered to PH/EC test the spray bottle after I did the 4 plants I used all them 3 just for seedlings. Thankfully the PH was perfect and these weren't even their PH perfect nutes which they have not only in their base nutes but they also have a stable PH buffer for hydroponics as PH can jump mad in pure water as the water goes down the stuff that was in the nutes is left behind and causes your PH to rise as it's taking away the ratio of water it was mixed with and in turn increasing the ratio of PH from the nutrients into the water. With mystic green that will be a thing of the past. It's like a ph - + but it'll hold a stable PH when you dry your roots in 15l and say if it drinks 5L that normally means your PH will rise around by a 1/3 or just rise unless you use a - + buffer. Whereas you find your desired PH and then add the stabilizer and it'll keep the PH in that level. Well that's my understanding of it. Read up about them if you are thinking of buying AN look at these as these ppl made AN what it is today. They should work together like a dream as I'm sure their formulas are close just terra powers were made in the past year not 5-10 years ago. I've been dying to try the jungle juice so will be using just them from AN and the rest will be Terra Power Nutrients. (OK, THATS ENOUGH ABOUT NUTRIENTS) The plant herself is a new strain and hasn't been widely grown yet. So, there's not a big base line to go by and see how far she can be pushed. FB though, is a hardy breeder and gives little in the way of Hermies and so on. I don't have to worry about room or height this time so I'm going to go heavy with LST and train these girls out. I'll top most of them but 1 or 2 I'm going to let it grow natural. Just a bit of LST. Gonna be hands off on this 1 For the first few wks and focus on improving my LST and other skills on my other 13 plants. Will be good to see what the jungle juice trio can do on its own, see what the happens. Expecting big things and yields from these grows. 30/4/22 Veg started. 38hrs in and she's up and going strong. (Update 5hrs after this update plant 2 has popped) Glad I turned the light on last night. For the 1st day the light will go on for 7/7 making sure to give these lil guys a rest is important and as they are autos it won't hurt in the slightest. Something I'm trying out. As if the fems pop up though I'll be then starting the lights on a 20/4, regardless of where all the other autos are at. It's important to get that light cycle in the plant straight away but for autos. A lil rest at the beginning will go a long way. Just until they are showing lil fan leafs or you can wait until they show them and then turn your light on. Decided to start these 2 on a few nutrients early. I've used Mystical Green, Artios Touch and fire yields all from Terra Power. None of these nutrients have any EC change to the solution. Mystical Green does many things but it's main purpose is to facilitate and stabilize PH allowing other nutrients to continue working in a constant set PH, as PH tends to change when added to soil or if in hydroponics when the water level goes down the PH buffers or ph from each nutrient is left behind and can cause an imbalance in your mix. I use .2 of the trio of jungle juice which changed 100 PPM to 350 or .7EC , very potent stuff. I really can't see using 4ml of each of these nutrients as the EC would be off the chart. Maybe it even out the more you add, idk, very small amount makes a massive EC change. Gave 100ml of 6 new nutrients on top of the low PPM feed they got when planted. I'll feed again in a few days. Maybe 4 and give water in 2 days. 1/5/22 Growing well plant 1 2-3x as bigger than Yday. Plant 2 4x bigger than Yday both will stay on the sane strength nutrients for the rest of the week. 2/5/22 100ml both plants. Tip dried both tops to stop any fert burn/water droplet burn. Same strength from day 1, same 1l mix holding same PH/EC. Very stable. 3/5/22 Plant 2 looking a little pale. Will up EC to 1.5/750ppm. Will upload pic after comes out of dark rest. Added 2ml biobizz calmag to my new mix will apply this week. Made 1L 400Ppm mix and split into 81L bottles. So it is only about 50ppm if even that. 4/5/22 Both plants are showing light cal mag def. Bit hard to see but it's there. I don't think my jungle juice is high enough. I've added cal mag and will stay the course for the rest of the week and then I'll go her EC to 1.8-2. All plants are close to spliting and breaking off making a new node maybe 2 days off. Or less. 5_5_22 Split has happened on mist of them. Growing strong. Their faces are 6&7.5 cm long and in height 6.5&7.2cm PPF of canopy is around 450-480. 6/5/22 So, it's begun. I've created a negative pressure environment, 1st time, let's see if it makes an impact. On wk 3 onwards I'll be running the intake extraction for 5mins every 30mins and I'll have 2 co2 bags up. If the RH becomes a problem or temp I'll put the extraction/intake back on 100% of the time. The extraction fan/intake is set at a ratio of 2 to 1. (100% extraction 50% intake) making a negative pressure environment, best way to show you have done this, the walls in your tent should bow in lightly. Same Day. Okay, so this my last update. Going to run fans the same right up until flower and then I'll be sealing up my tent and adding 2 co2 bags. And will be adding a dehuimifier and setting at 45% And it checks every 30mins and if it's gone up it'll turn back on and bring down to 45 or set RH, so no co2 will escape. The temp will be bordering 30-33c and then when they go into their rest window they'll be transferred to to a negative pressure environment with low temps and 45-50%RH. I'll only be able to do this for the 3 weeks of pre flower. And maybe some more, it depends how hard the dehuimifier will be working, but i want dense buds and only way to improve that is by introducing Co2 and then a negative pressure cold environment for terps. Then I'll be putting them back into full negative pressure environment and the Co2 will be useless, again all depends how it's gonna affect my bottom line. That and I only have 2 intake fans. I'll be going into detail about my Co2 adventures the week before I'll be prepping them to be able to withstand high temps, so I'll gradually bring up the temps the last wk of veg 28c max and that way when I push it to 30-32c in pre flower she won't stress as much and then they'll go into 6hrs of 21c, back to negative pressure environment. Should bring the temps down from 30+ to low 20s within a min, so I'm hoping to bring out the terpness. Will go into details about Co2 and how to create it in a grow tent without spending 4-500euro. You will need a dehuimifier though and 2 20$ Co2 bags. And an reasonable air tight tent. Thanks for reading this week, this is the last update for this week. gottagrowsometime

7/5/22 VD8 Coming along ok. Hoping for much better growth this week after starting a negative pressure environment I'm hoping this will increase co2. I'll monitor her for now and keep your on the same ppm/EC. I'll be taking away Artios Touch for this week and adding Atlas. Maybe during the week I'll increase PPM. 9/5/22 Up and coming plans. I'm going to top 1 of this in the coming week. Also I have a few ideas to help out in the pre flowering stage and have sorted out a temp controlled (AC intake fan). This will enable me to turn it on for 5mimd out of every 30 and pump cold 18c air into. I've also turned the light from 65% - 87.5%. Holding that lil bit of an extra kick for preflowering given with as much co2 time I can give them in their new homebox ambient 150+ 150x150x220 will allow me to go big and will widen in most areas what I can do with these girls. I'll be keeping a 50x50 space free in my tent for the 20l dehuimifier that will be running in the tent with my 800m3 6 inch EC/TEMP C9NTROLLED PRIMA KILMA intake fan will be turned on, by request OF the new automated dehuimdifying/temp controlled area which will allow me to grow in high co2 environment for at least 25 mins out of every 30. It'll all depend how quick my 3 co2 bags can bring up the ppm. And I'll only be doing this for preflower only then I'll go back to a negative pressure environment 15/5/22 Great week for growth. Had a look at the ends of the pots and roots where coming out of the end of the holes. Days ago. Hmmm, I'll only know if I waited too long if they stall. 16/5/22 So, as I suspected, both pots were root bound. Had to break up the soil instead of putting right into new pot minimising shock, sadly that's not gonna be the case, expecting considerable shock as I had to break up the soil, not fully but enough so roots will hopefully grow down. At best it'll set me back 2-4 days at worst 1-1.5 wks of a stall.

Welcome to my diary, thanks for dropping by. Be sure to drop a like so I can visit your grows. Wk 3 VD15 17/5 Great growth in both plants. Plant 2 is a lil bigger. Going to top above the 5th once the 6th node shows. Topped both above the 5th node. 18_5_22 musta overwatered plant 1 as shes a lil droopy 2day. Will hold off till the 20th until I feed again. 18/5/22 Figuring out how VPD works. You could read for hours about this stuff and still not dial it in for years. But here's the basics. VPD 0.4-0.8 kpa for early seedling. So under or around 23c and around 50-60 RH. atm my VPD is 1.05kpa and for most of my plants the optimal range is .8-1.1 kpa. Temp is 80 F 25C and RH is 70%. To find the perfect VPD (Vapor Pressure Deficit)check out optimal ranges of VPD for growing stages, also your strain should have the optimal VPD. I don't have an infrared temp to check the LVPD (Leaf Vapor Pressure Deficit) that's a whole other ball game 23/5/22 Both ladies were defoliated. I've also moved them around. 1 is under a viparspectra and the other is under a SF1000 light. Both are in the Homebox Ambient 150x150x220. Thanks for reading gottagrowsometime

Welcome to my SF1000vsP1000 100 WATT LIGHTS. Be sure to drop a like so I can visit your diaries. Week 4 VD22 plant 1 is under a viparspectra p1000 and the other is under a SF1000. Both are been given the same nutrient strength, topping above the 5th node and LST applied more or less the same..the Viparspectra is a little ahead but the SF1000 one seems to be more filled out. And seems to have a stronger ppfd coverage. Now, I won't be able to say this for 100% until I get my lux meter. 25/5/22 Took some more fan leafs which I'll be doing over the nest week right up until she flowers. I'll only be taken a few leafs everyday or 2, and taken where I think will block light. All bottom growth don't bother taken as they aren't blocking anything and if you fall into a N, marco nute (mobile nutrient def) then these will be a good food source. That and they aren't taken anything away from undergrowth as they aren't blocking anything, so leave them. SAME DAY: I can see that 1 of them is coming into pre-flower. Showing a lot of pistils coming from the bud sites and new shoots. Really easy to spot compared to my other banana purple punch under my SF1000 light it's no even near pre-flower. Added Epsom Salt to give them some MG/S. Was 350 ppm baseline was 105 so 245 2 pinches to 300ml. 28/5/22 Decided to stay ahead of any cal/mg/s def I'm giving em enough to hopefully hold off any of these Key Nutrients that affect the very function of how your plant will grow, espically Cal. Thanks for reading gottagrowsometime

Really big difference in both plants. 1 is like 15cm bigger but that flowered a bit earlier. I only count FD when I see stigma (pistils) coming up from the shoot, (the heads as I call em). But you can tell a few days even before proper stigma starts, in that time, its about 2-4 days you should start flushing your plants if you are on a Grow and Bloom nutrient that isn't meant to be mixed. Just remember to give the micro or whatever base nutrient you use. I'll give a more detailed account of them in a few days.

As you can c. The difference between the SF 1000 & P1000 is huge. The P1000 plant is a lot thinner, buds and internodes aren't as tight. The decent PPFD is a must as you come into early pre-flower. Sadly by the time I get my mars TS1000 light the damage will have been done. I'll get a lil better bud, in the way of bud expansion but internode distance will be the same. SF1000 light is been put out to pasture. Maybe I'll add it in between the p1000s.

Week 7. Fd16 total D44 Plant is looking well. Nice steady growth and buds seem to be nice and dense. Going to be a nice lil lady. Have moved both plants under both p1000s. Probably too late to get results like this 1 on my other banana purple punch. As for my other grow. Well, she has came down with rust spots galore, it's down to nutrient burn by giving to many different base nutrient feeds too many times. I gave ADV jungle juice, and terra power base nutrients too often and well, she's suffering atm. Will throw up a pic of her later.

Week 8. FD20&21 25/6 Both plants are now under a p1000 but I think it's too late for the one that spent most of its life under an SF 1000. Let's c what the p1000 can do. The other one has no color at all to it. But looks more like banana, and the other had hints of purple. Buds under the P1000 are finally forming some nice solid dense buds. Just gotta watch the RH to stay away from bud rot/mold. Still aways to go on this one though. Her sister is future alone- The one under the sf1000 is just coming into the ripening phase. She has finished getting fat. So she'll be going on triton, (overdrive now, as will 6 of my autos to). They are in the middle of a 2 day 1L soft flush. 1/7 Triton was added today (overdrive)..ppm was 260ish +110ambient water. Ph adjusted to 6.6 Am also going to try single nutrient feeding. They'll get a new nutrient every morning. Base nutrients 3x will be given together..1 enzyme and 2 bloom boosters. 1 resin enhancer & silica and 1L feed split into 2 parts at the end of the week. As the EC will be low I don't see any issues with excess salts and I'll give an enzyme feed that should help break it down some also. Thanks for reading. gottagrowsometime

Wk 9. FD30/29 Days in the ground (57-58). Both plants are doing well. Plant 1 is a lot more dense and the bud quality is more or less the same at the top as it is at the bottom. Have to give it to viparspectra. The light is much better at pen. And giving an overall better bud quality. Have started 8 of my plants on triton (overdrive). Hopefully they'll both soon start to finish up. Hope triton can do what it says, as the overdrive from advanced nutrients. Tbh, was hard to say if it added to it. All I know is it clashed with big bud but with terra power their big bud and overdrive versions clash on purpose. And you can really tell the signs of full terra power plants under the SF 1000 they give for nice big buds. Whereas Advanced nutrients still give that good quality on top but a mix of poor light and poor nutrients gives for a lot of larf. I really can see the benefits of terra power, they are great nutrients and I'm going to stick with them. I'll be dropping a few things and I'll be doing a proper test to see what works best on my next run I'm going to run a clone test. I'll be growing a female taking 6 clones and I'll be doing 3 with terra power and using a mix of nutrients and I'll be using other nutrients and doing a proper VS grow. I gladly did give these ladies terra power and they did help but you can see the one under the started under the SF 1000 light mixed with Advanced nutrients is OK. But the 1 under the p1000 has got better bud quality. Really happy with how these are going. Plant 1 has at least another 2 weeks, plant 2 maybe will be done in a week. Thanks for reading. gottagrowsometime

Week 10. Flowering Day 38/37 in the ground 66 Days for both plants.. These were the longest to veg. Both plants are so different. The plant that's 38 days in is behind as she has much denser buds. Am going to keep these on nutrients for at least another 2 weeks. And then we'll see where we're at. They are the most pungent by far. They stink off fruits and diesel and a very small hint of banana, which I'm sure will come out in the cure. 9/7 Both plants are doing OK. Mad differences in bud. The one under the p1000 isn't as frosty but that comes with the vioarspectra lights, frost tends to come after the swell. Buds are bigger and denser under the p1000. 10/7 1st plant is still showing a lot of white pistils. But the fade (end of life cycle has started to show). So, another week and I'll have to pull it. Another week on triton. 11/7 After having a closer look. Its not fade. She's just hungry. Needs some more grow/bloom nutrients added. So, I let it dry out some and added a high dose of feed 900ppm.. am giving feed and triton and poseidon for another week. The one that started flowering under the SF 1000 is nearly done. The bud at the end is 60-40 on amber/white pistils but all trichomes are coming into the 90-95% cloudy. The 1 done under the p1000 from start to finish, still has around 30% white hairs and is still sticking out of the bud, also, you'll see the yellow leafs. It has a fade like appearance, some of it even is, but most of it is just showing its still in the ripening phase and is lacking some N. And general growth nutrients. It's fixed, the yellowing has stopped. I removed some yellow ones so it will make it easier for me to notice if she is throwing off any signs of hunger by moving onto a geener leaf and then ill know, as if I left the yellow ones they would of just kept feeding of them by removing them I'll know in a day if it's fixed as opposed to 3-5 days. Am going to keep up the feed, and keep pushing her

Week 11 D73 Flowering 43Days, both plants are doing well. Am going to throw both girls into a slow flush this week. Buds are nice a dense on the front one and the white pistils are turning Amber. The trichomes just aren't there yet. So I'm going to slow flush with terra power finisher so it'll keep eating when it's flushing. And I've lowered the amount of lighting they get also. 17/7 Both girls are doing fine. Still drinking but both plants have slowed a lot. So, they are done. I'm holding off with the harvests until our heat wave has gone. 26c is my coldest room today. I just about got my 2 harvested plants in before it hit hard. Thanks for reading gottagrowsometime

She grew really well and strong, I topped both plants, and maybe I shouldn't be. Cause height, I'm just not getting in my autos and me topping them is leading me to believe that they are flowering earlier than they would if I just left them. But I'm still happy with how these grew, instead of 1 main cola I got 10 smaller ones, so I'm happy, they grew strong and quick, gave no trouble but a bit of nutrient burn. Very easy to grow and very resistant some of the most I've grown so far, they bounced back very quickly with the very few issues I did have, she was really easy to turn around and if you found this to be your strain, then you'll get some decent harvests back from a few plants, hoping to see 130-160g from both plants. WOW. 1.5 day on the cure and already I'm getting the bang of ripe bananas. The berries smell has kinda dropped a little. Amazing at how fast this smell took over. Ripe banana + fruity and a deep fuel has taken over my cure press. And the bud is in jars, it still stinks.