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Herbies Seeds - Purple Chill Auto
Herbies Seeds - Ape Fruit Auto
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 3-13
Defoliation
weeks 7
Soil
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
7.57 l
Pot Size
Grow Conditions
Week 5
Flowering
20 hrs
Light Schedule
23
°C
°F
Day Air Temperature
9+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Goliath Bloom Nutrients (Herbal House)
1.25 ml/l
Goliath Vegetative Nutrients (Herbal House)
0.63 ml/l
Grow Technique Usage
LST
Technique
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banurnerphone banurnerphone
2 years ago
10 July 2022 (day 29): 4 weeks in and the PCA finally has some pre-flowers shooting pistils, which means the horror stories about Herbies Autos aren't all to be believed. Sure enough, the GCA's fan leaf I snapped yesterday had died on the plant so I put it out of its misery. The grow tent is stinky as hell. Both it and its lung room (a walk-in wardrobe) are climbing in humidity as the grow goes on and tending to average around 70% RH, which is the opposite of what I want as I move into flower. I'm going to tinker with the AC Infinity's settings, but in the meantime I have simply opened the wardrobe to expand the air available to the grow tent. Took some PAR readings today to calculate DLI, which I think is a bit on the low side for flower so the lights may move down again to get closer to 12 inches than the 24 at present. DLI readings at canopy -- GCA: 28.2; AFA: 31.4; PCA: 27.6 -- a lot more visible pre-flower action and just better spacing for the AFA generally... hmmm.... 11 July 2022 (day 30): The girls are 30 days old! After topping up their soil a bit yesterday they were a bit dry, so each got 500mls of a 1.5l jug of water, mixed with a 1/8 dose of veg nutes (0.975ml for 1.5l of Veg A and Veg B) and 1/4 dose of bloom nutes (1.875ml for 1.5l of Bloom A and Bloom B). The GCA is still a total jazz cabbage but I tucked all the girls in and adjusted their LST ties (pictured, pretty poorly, post-tuck). 12 July 2022 (day 31): Not a watering (or feeding) day for the girls so I measured them before applying further ties. Trying limply to break the apical dominance, particularly of the AFA that is shooting up. I noticed some yellow spots that I think are new now appearing on the old fan leaves of each auto... no detailed photographs as I'm slightly in denial. Also notice (post-photos) that one of the PCA's lower fan leaves is rapidly yellowing... or it could just be the washed out old iphone camera and the intense 100% grow light! Root to canopy heights - GCA: 18cm; AFA: 24cm; PCA: 17cm. 13 July 2022 (day 32): Girls had a water and a feed today that they immediately sucked up. Rather than the 500ml waters, I'm thinking the next soak will be a full litre each because there was effectively no runoff from any of them for any real period of time. As suspected, a couple of the PCA lower fan leaves are yellowing out. I am choosing not to see it in terms of a deficiency/lockout at this time but it may be they'd like more nutes. Because they have no plain nutrient-free feedings, it's equally possible it's in a lockout scenario. Pity I don't have a control of the same species to test with, will definitely not be doing a mixed-species grow next time! Increased the tension on some of the LSTs and added another to the AFA. Really, the AFA is the only specimen with nicely spaced nodes where I have a good handle on bud sites. The GCA is still way too dense to effectively separate the canopy to expose bud sites without some defoliation. The PCA is just a bit light on bud sites altogether and is the Sick Man of Europe in the context of my grow. Onwards! 14 July 2022 (day 33): The grow tent has been averaging 71.2% RH throughout the week and spiking up to a max of 82%, so I have finally done something to address the AC Infinity's automations. The tradeoff of having the fan work harder than 2/10 is that a lot more heat will be lost through the air exchange. That's probably not the end of the world but it will be a case of continued monitoring. The PCA's yellowing fan leaf has now almost completely blanched and I'm wondering whether I might need to be incorporating more plain water feedings. Also potentially a concern is that I'm headed away for four nights during which the plants will be essentially unattended. I may have to call in a favour to get them watered! 15 July 2022 (day 34): Leaving my girls for 4 nights tonight so a quick check in and tuck before I do so. The changes to the AC Infinity settings seem to have been successful in bringing the average humidity down below 65%. I am wondering with flowering stepping up whether I should be targeting an even lower humidity figure, but the weather here (rainy winter) makes everything pretty damp at all times. Will be interesting to see how they survive with non-PHd water and 4 nights without their dad!
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Grow Questions
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Are these autos ready for a bit of LST below their first five-fingered node? Either way, I’m about to find out...
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
You usually want to wait until they're a bit older than what you've got - at least 3-4 nodes and 5-fingered leaves are there... I would pull off what you've got and let the little one grow some more, tbh... or, if you've got more than one plant, try it on ONE as an experiment and see what happens... Good luck
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Is anyone able to give me some feedback on my LST and tucking technique? I am growing 3 autos in little 2 gallon pots and one in particular is ridiculously stacked/dense in its node development (the Godzilla Cookies Auto,, first photos!). Should I bend more/tie lower/more?
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
The LST looks good so far - try raising your lights to get the plants to stretch out more though... I'm not seeing any nutes in your diary? Did you just not put them in or are you not giving them anything? Now would be a good time to start your bloom nutes if you have them... and a touch of grow nutes to help them get bigger... Good luck!
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Kia ora whanau, Each of my three flowering autos (the Herbies Beginner Auto Mix #1: Ape Fruit Auto, Purple Chill Auto and Godzilla Cookies Auto) has an issue with yellowing older leaves. Do I need more nitrogen or is this potentially something cal mag would address? TYVMIA!
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Tomasdelibre
Tomasdelibreanswered grow question 2 years ago
I happens with autos faster, but the plant is using nutrients and energy for the top growth. When those big fan leaves start to yellow down low just pinch them off and put them in the compost. You want more airflow down low as the ladies start flowering anyway.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 10
Oh my, OH MY!!!! This grow is looking fabulous @banurnerphone! You have done a truly magnificent job and I can't wait to see what kind of harvest you're going to get from them! KUDOS!!!!
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannie
@banurnerphone, What are you talking about for heaven's sake?! Unless you've got another pic of the Ape Fruit that I'm not seeing, she looks gorgeous, too - they ALL do... !!!!! What you're seeing is the natural progression of a highly colorful plant... her "Fall Colors" are just starting to come out and she is going to be blitheringly beautiful! And ALL trichs will cloud up, ALL trichs will turn amber... you want to wait until you can see MAYBE 10-20% of them amber before chopping - that's going to be "peak" harvest time... the longer you wait after that (i.e., the more amber you see) the more you're going to be in couchlock mode from her... No, no, no, "first time Daddy" - you'll be fine, SHE'LL be fine... just have patience! :-D (Seriously GORGEOUS grow!)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
thanks so much for coming to check in on my grow @GrowingGrannie, and double thanks for the compliment, it means a lot coming from you! While you're here, do you have any opinion on the readiness for harvest on the Ape Fruit Auto? Per my journal, it has definitely matured fastest and has the most even budsites/nicest bud structure of the three. HOWEVER, the trichomes on the AFA don't look to be particularly cloudy, and I'm wondering if the cloudiness-->ambering just might not happen? Unfortunately it got hit first by that calcium deficiency that you identified a couple of weeks back and it basically ended up losing all its fan leaves to yellowing. As you can see, even the sugar leaves are quite spotted yellow so I'm wondering whether the buds might have stopped maturing? Either that or I'm just an anxious first time daddy and I need to wait "two more weeks"?
b_C6969
b_C6969week 5
Looking good man :) I find LST pretty tricky on autos too, obviously with photoperiods you have as much time as you want (in theory) to play around and let the plants bounce back. Take a look at my Zkittlez and Gorilla Glue diary, with Zkittlez i did my usual really light training, pretty much just defoliating and bending side branches to open up the canopy. With gorilla glue i tried actual "normal" LST, it didn't really work out the way i wanted it to, and i think it's part of the reason why she stunted for a while. Anyway, i'll stop rambling hahah. Take a look if you like :) the LST still worked, its just not ideal. Oh, and lollipopping i've found to be pretty good. Happy growing friend, followed :)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@b_C6969, Cool man, I have both freebie Zkittlez and CBD Lemon Auto seeds from Herbies that I'm waiting to plant so having a look at your detailed diary is getting me pumped :D
CombatCat
CombatCatweek 10
Nice 2 gallon grow
catdatty
catdattyweek 9
I've got a GCA going, day 16 right now. Thinking about fimming around the 4th node - would you do any HST if you could do over given the 'christmas tree' or just more aggressive with LST? I know you're not supposed to do it with autos but... maybe 😏?
catdatty
catdatty
@banurnerphone, thanks, I tied it down a bit early based on your results with the 4th node. My nodes are looking pretty close together as well. I'm away days 23-26, perfect timing 😅
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@catdatty, Honestly I think it was just 4-5 nights away from the plant in preflower and the bud site got away from me. Also the node spacing on the GCA was so stacked that I was too delicate about tying when I only had my thick rubber ties. Also, I woulda defoliated bottom third at the start of flower. Good luck! 😜
catdatty
catdattyweek 13
Let me know how it smokes!