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Herbies Seeds - Purple Chill Auto
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Herbies Seeds - Ape Fruit Auto
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Indoor
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LST
weeks 3-13
Defoliation
weeks 7
Soil
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
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Week 10
Flowering
20 hrs
Light Schedule
21
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°F
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Goliath Bloom Nutrients (Herbal House)
4.5 ml/l
Goliath Bloom Nutrients (Herbal House) 1
4.5 ml/l
CANNA BOOST Accelerator - Canna
CANNA BOOST Accelerator
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banurnerphone banurnerphone
2 years ago
Day 64 - Week 10 beginneth! DLI readings - GCA: 41 at centre, AFA: 50 at centre, PCA: 31 at centre. Perhaps it's no wonder the PCA looks weeks behind in terms of bud structure. Have been keeping an eagle eye on the trichomes for each plant and the AFA really is behind in terms of the trichomes mostly still being clear despite the buds being phatties. Not sure if that's a sign of something terrible. The other two plants seem to be a mixture of milky and clear. Have given up trying to photograph using the iPad through the loupe, too much of a logistical challenge. The odour on the AFA seems to be deteriorating -- not smelling damp as just a bit... musty like a durian or something. Maybe that's what they meant by Ape Fruit? Day 65 - No water or nutes today as medium is still feeling a bit damp at first knuckle. The trichomes on the GCA and PCA are coming along milky in terms of trichomes but the AFA trichomes continue to show minimal development. Still, it would appear that the buds are continuing to fatten and their colour is popping into a nice purple/wine mix. I'm worried there's absolutely nothing left on the plant in terms of fan leaves for photosynthesis, so hopefully the spotty sugar leaves are doing *something*! Rotated the GCA and PCA to give them a bit of varying exposure to the oscillating fan. Day 66 - Girls got a feed and a water today and pleasingly it looks like some of the PCA budsites are finally putting on some weight! Both the GCA and PCA seem to have been spared from the worst of the calcium deficiencies that ran through the AFA a couple of weeks back, though the fade is definitely beginning on the PCA. I continue to have concerns about the AFA because despite the beautifully even budsites, popping colours and good bud structure, their trichomes under the loupe aren't all that cloudy and just generally there appear to be less dense trichome coverage than on the other two strains. I'm hoping I'll see clouding/ambering because I'm basically relying it as my cue to harvest, but perhaps I should be looking for other signs? Day 67 - Just a tiny bit of tucking today and rotated the pots to ensure the gimpier bud sites are getting the most from the LED coverage. Trichomes on the AFA are still looking glassy rather than cloudy... somewhere, a little boy waits. Day 68 - As a storm covers the country, residual humidity has been high even with the lung room window open. Feeling a bit better about the lack of trichome changes after a bit of reassurance (thanks grow-pals) and enjoying the colour development in the buds. While I was tucking the GCA today I got a look (but not a good photo) of just how massive the major budsite has become, it looks like a giant floor mop viewed from one side! Day 69 - Niiiice! A water and a feed for the girls today as humidity has climbed throughout the week. The PCA's "autumnal colours" are bursting through something melancholy, they are faded af! Nothing to report on the trichome front. Tomorrow I aim to assess pistil colour/orientation a bit more as I'm worried the AFA trichomes are never gonna show. Gotta hate the 'Noids. Day 70 - Note to self: stop tending to girls while high.
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Grow Questions
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Are these autos ready for a bit of LST below their first five-fingered node? Either way, I’m about to find out...
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
You usually want to wait until they're a bit older than what you've got - at least 3-4 nodes and 5-fingered leaves are there... I would pull off what you've got and let the little one grow some more, tbh... or, if you've got more than one plant, try it on ONE as an experiment and see what happens... Good luck
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Is anyone able to give me some feedback on my LST and tucking technique? I am growing 3 autos in little 2 gallon pots and one in particular is ridiculously stacked/dense in its node development (the Godzilla Cookies Auto,, first photos!). Should I bend more/tie lower/more?
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
The LST looks good so far - try raising your lights to get the plants to stretch out more though... I'm not seeing any nutes in your diary? Did you just not put them in or are you not giving them anything? Now would be a good time to start your bloom nutes if you have them... and a touch of grow nutes to help them get bigger... Good luck!
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Kia ora whanau, Each of my three flowering autos (the Herbies Beginner Auto Mix #1: Ape Fruit Auto, Purple Chill Auto and Godzilla Cookies Auto) has an issue with yellowing older leaves. Do I need more nitrogen or is this potentially something cal mag would address? TYVMIA!
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Tomasdelibre
Tomasdelibreanswered grow question 2 years ago
I happens with autos faster, but the plant is using nutrients and energy for the top growth. When those big fan leaves start to yellow down low just pinch them off and put them in the compost. You want more airflow down low as the ladies start flowering anyway.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 10
Oh my, OH MY!!!! This grow is looking fabulous @banurnerphone! You have done a truly magnificent job and I can't wait to see what kind of harvest you're going to get from them! KUDOS!!!!
GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannie
@banurnerphone, What are you talking about for heaven's sake?! Unless you've got another pic of the Ape Fruit that I'm not seeing, she looks gorgeous, too - they ALL do... !!!!! What you're seeing is the natural progression of a highly colorful plant... her "Fall Colors" are just starting to come out and she is going to be blitheringly beautiful! And ALL trichs will cloud up, ALL trichs will turn amber... you want to wait until you can see MAYBE 10-20% of them amber before chopping - that's going to be "peak" harvest time... the longer you wait after that (i.e., the more amber you see) the more you're going to be in couchlock mode from her... No, no, no, "first time Daddy" - you'll be fine, SHE'LL be fine... just have patience! :-D (Seriously GORGEOUS grow!)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
thanks so much for coming to check in on my grow @GrowingGrannie, and double thanks for the compliment, it means a lot coming from you! While you're here, do you have any opinion on the readiness for harvest on the Ape Fruit Auto? Per my journal, it has definitely matured fastest and has the most even budsites/nicest bud structure of the three. HOWEVER, the trichomes on the AFA don't look to be particularly cloudy, and I'm wondering if the cloudiness-->ambering just might not happen? Unfortunately it got hit first by that calcium deficiency that you identified a couple of weeks back and it basically ended up losing all its fan leaves to yellowing. As you can see, even the sugar leaves are quite spotted yellow so I'm wondering whether the buds might have stopped maturing? Either that or I'm just an anxious first time daddy and I need to wait "two more weeks"?
b_C6969
b_C6969week 5
Looking good man :) I find LST pretty tricky on autos too, obviously with photoperiods you have as much time as you want (in theory) to play around and let the plants bounce back. Take a look at my Zkittlez and Gorilla Glue diary, with Zkittlez i did my usual really light training, pretty much just defoliating and bending side branches to open up the canopy. With gorilla glue i tried actual "normal" LST, it didn't really work out the way i wanted it to, and i think it's part of the reason why she stunted for a while. Anyway, i'll stop rambling hahah. Take a look if you like :) the LST still worked, its just not ideal. Oh, and lollipopping i've found to be pretty good. Happy growing friend, followed :)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@b_C6969, Cool man, I have both freebie Zkittlez and CBD Lemon Auto seeds from Herbies that I'm waiting to plant so having a look at your detailed diary is getting me pumped :D
CombatCat
CombatCatweek 10
Nice 2 gallon grow
catdatty
catdattyweek 9
I've got a GCA going, day 16 right now. Thinking about fimming around the 4th node - would you do any HST if you could do over given the 'christmas tree' or just more aggressive with LST? I know you're not supposed to do it with autos but... maybe 😏?
catdatty
catdatty
@banurnerphone, thanks, I tied it down a bit early based on your results with the 4th node. My nodes are looking pretty close together as well. I'm away days 23-26, perfect timing 😅
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@catdatty, Honestly I think it was just 4-5 nights away from the plant in preflower and the bud site got away from me. Also the node spacing on the GCA was so stacked that I was too delicate about tying when I only had my thick rubber ties. Also, I woulda defoliated bottom third at the start of flower. Good luck! 😜
catdatty
catdattyweek 13
Let me know how it smokes!