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Herbies Seeds - Purple Chill Auto
Herbies Seeds - Ape Fruit Auto
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 3-13
Defoliation
weeks 7
Soil
Grow medium
Coco Coir
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
Grow Conditions
Week 6
Flowering
20 hrs
Light Schedule
23
°C
°F
Day Air Temperature
9+ conditions after
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Goliath Bloom Nutrients (Herbal House)
2.5 ml/l
Goliath Vegetative Nutrients (Herbal House)
0.63 ml/l
Goliath Bloom Nutrients (Herbal House) 1
2.5 ml/l
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Grow Technique Usage
LST
Technique
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banurnerphone banurnerphone
2 years ago
Day 38 - Girls did surprisingly well with dad away for 4 nights, and the flowering has moved ahead on all. Bud site spacing on the Ape Fruit Auto is mint and the LST has paid off, but the other two are still a bit dense to be workable, which is leading me to consider defoliation. Will need to seek advice! Day 39 - Quiet shoutout to @Roberts and @GrowingGrannie for swiftly coming back to me about my deficiency, which would appear to be calcium. I don't have any liquid nutes that target calcium/magnesium in particular and they don't seem to be available at regular garden shops (other than a Hydrangea Pinking Liquid which is 47% calcium by volume!). I'll have to do some recon of grow shops on the weekend. To answer a question, I'm still using a homeopathic dose of vegetative nutrients because a couple of places recommended it in the transition to flower. No feed today, but girls are getting 1L of water at a time and producing very little run through, however the run-off has tested at 6.3 ph, which is about what goes in (water-wise) according to my Bluelab pen. Nervous about the calcium deficiency being allowed to run its course until the weekend, but not well-positioned to deal to it until the weekend! Day 40 - Flowering continues but the AFA looks to be a solid week ahead of its contemporaries (or perhaps my LST has just been much more effective for it). Really disappointed with the Godzilla Cookies Auto just because it remains a giant jazz cabbage that I can barely get amongst to train. In my next grow I am going to use air pots that I can tie to in all directions because these fabric pots have their limitations. Girls got another feed with both a decent dose of bloom nutes and a homeopathic dose of veg nutes. They continue to show signs of calcium deficiency and I cannot wait to pick up some calmag tomorrow. Day 41 - Worked on the girls while a little bit wazzed and must say they are hanging in there, calcium deficiency and all. In fact, can I confess I felt something like affectionate attraction towards the myriad budsites of the AFA? She has been such a good girl, happy to be trained to my whims, utterly lacking in apical dominance. I got so excited I took an "artistic" bokkeh-filled photo of the phuture phrostiness. She quivered in the light breeze of the oscillating fan. Ahem. Day 42 - Finally got some Flairform CMX with the intention of addressing my deficiency issues diagnosed as calcium deficiency, only to have that diagnosis immediately cast into doubt. After reading that calcium is an immobile nutrient, it doesn't make a great deal of sense that the yellowing off/die-off has been focused on the lower leaves. However, I don't think the homeopathic dose of calmag is gonna do any damage. Upped my bloom nutrients to 4.5ml per litre and cut out the vegetative nutrients as suggested. Sugar leaves on the budsites look awesome!
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Grow Questions
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Are these autos ready for a bit of LST below their first five-fingered node? Either way, I’m about to find out...
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
You usually want to wait until they're a bit older than what you've got - at least 3-4 nodes and 5-fingered leaves are there... I would pull off what you've got and let the little one grow some more, tbh... or, if you've got more than one plant, try it on ONE as an experiment and see what happens... Good luck
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Is anyone able to give me some feedback on my LST and tucking technique? I am growing 3 autos in little 2 gallon pots and one in particular is ridiculously stacked/dense in its node development (the Godzilla Cookies Auto,, first photos!). Should I bend more/tie lower/more?
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Techniques. LST
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
The LST looks good so far - try raising your lights to get the plants to stretch out more though... I'm not seeing any nutes in your diary? Did you just not put them in or are you not giving them anything? Now would be a good time to start your bloom nutes if you have them... and a touch of grow nutes to help them get bigger... Good luck!
banurnerphone
banurnerphonestarted grow question 2 years ago
Kia ora whanau, Each of my three flowering autos (the Herbies Beginner Auto Mix #1: Ape Fruit Auto, Purple Chill Auto and Godzilla Cookies Auto) has an issue with yellowing older leaves. Do I need more nitrogen or is this potentially something cal mag would address? TYVMIA!
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Tomasdelibre
Tomasdelibreanswered grow question 2 years ago
I happens with autos faster, but the plant is using nutrients and energy for the top growth. When those big fan leaves start to yellow down low just pinch them off and put them in the compost. You want more airflow down low as the ladies start flowering anyway.
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieweek 10
Oh my, OH MY!!!! This grow is looking fabulous @banurnerphone! You have done a truly magnificent job and I can't wait to see what kind of harvest you're going to get from them! KUDOS!!!!
GrowingGrannie
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@banurnerphone, What are you talking about for heaven's sake?! Unless you've got another pic of the Ape Fruit that I'm not seeing, she looks gorgeous, too - they ALL do... !!!!! What you're seeing is the natural progression of a highly colorful plant... her "Fall Colors" are just starting to come out and she is going to be blitheringly beautiful! And ALL trichs will cloud up, ALL trichs will turn amber... you want to wait until you can see MAYBE 10-20% of them amber before chopping - that's going to be "peak" harvest time... the longer you wait after that (i.e., the more amber you see) the more you're going to be in couchlock mode from her... No, no, no, "first time Daddy" - you'll be fine, SHE'LL be fine... just have patience! :-D (Seriously GORGEOUS grow!)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
thanks so much for coming to check in on my grow @GrowingGrannie, and double thanks for the compliment, it means a lot coming from you! While you're here, do you have any opinion on the readiness for harvest on the Ape Fruit Auto? Per my journal, it has definitely matured fastest and has the most even budsites/nicest bud structure of the three. HOWEVER, the trichomes on the AFA don't look to be particularly cloudy, and I'm wondering if the cloudiness-->ambering just might not happen? Unfortunately it got hit first by that calcium deficiency that you identified a couple of weeks back and it basically ended up losing all its fan leaves to yellowing. As you can see, even the sugar leaves are quite spotted yellow so I'm wondering whether the buds might have stopped maturing? Either that or I'm just an anxious first time daddy and I need to wait "two more weeks"?
b_C6969
b_C6969week 5
Looking good man :) I find LST pretty tricky on autos too, obviously with photoperiods you have as much time as you want (in theory) to play around and let the plants bounce back. Take a look at my Zkittlez and Gorilla Glue diary, with Zkittlez i did my usual really light training, pretty much just defoliating and bending side branches to open up the canopy. With gorilla glue i tried actual "normal" LST, it didn't really work out the way i wanted it to, and i think it's part of the reason why she stunted for a while. Anyway, i'll stop rambling hahah. Take a look if you like :) the LST still worked, its just not ideal. Oh, and lollipopping i've found to be pretty good. Happy growing friend, followed :)
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@b_C6969, Cool man, I have both freebie Zkittlez and CBD Lemon Auto seeds from Herbies that I'm waiting to plant so having a look at your detailed diary is getting me pumped :D
CombatCat
CombatCatweek 10
Nice 2 gallon grow
catdatty
catdattyweek 9
I've got a GCA going, day 16 right now. Thinking about fimming around the 4th node - would you do any HST if you could do over given the 'christmas tree' or just more aggressive with LST? I know you're not supposed to do it with autos but... maybe 😏?
catdatty
catdatty
@banurnerphone, thanks, I tied it down a bit early based on your results with the 4th node. My nodes are looking pretty close together as well. I'm away days 23-26, perfect timing 😅
banurnerphone
banurnerphone
@catdatty, Honestly I think it was just 4-5 nights away from the plant in preflower and the bud site got away from me. Also the node spacing on the GCA was so stacked that I was too delicate about tying when I only had my thick rubber ties. Also, I woulda defoliated bottom third at the start of flower. Good luck! 😜
catdatty
catdattyweek 13
Let me know how it smokes!