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Doc D - Ethiopian Flame V2
Strayfox - North Indian Kush Cake (fem)
Custom Light Emitting Diodes/135W
Custom
Custom Light Emitting Diodes/240W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 5
Defoliation
weeks 5
Expanded Clay
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
G
Germination
3 years ago
Another grow in the works. Excited to try some of these amazing genetics. Strayfox, Doc D, and Ocean Grown seeds! I hope my new germination/clone station doesn't kill them early. I created a clone/germination cooler. It seems to be working well so far. I am thinking of putting a timer on the pump so the starter plugs aren't getting soaked and there is a little dry-back period. I will play with it over the next couple of runs. The cooler was 35$, way more than I wanted to spend, but cloners are 150+, so I can't be too upset. I am going to run a new nutrient line this run: Ventana Plant Science. The Ethiopian Banana is supposed to have some 1:1 THC:CBD offspring, plus the dragon energy has some of that dragon's blood bred into it (the one that makes the plant have red sugars/sap(?) that looks like it bleeds). So yea, real interesting stuff this run. The Strayfox are fems, the rest are regulars. I am planning on flowering 1 Indian Kush Cake, 1-2 Alien Rifts, and 2-3 Ethiopians. Here's to hoping the plans work out! 🚬 Have a good week and thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 1. Vegetation
3 years ago
10.16 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
5.8
650 PPM
55 %
22 °C
24 °C
19 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 6
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Grow 2.642 mll
Trying out this new nutrient line and I went a little heavy on the mix. I probably should have used a touch less support (cal-mag). Next reservoir change I will get it right. I don't like playing the game of slowly increasing the EC each week. It is a pain in the ass to do the kangaroo math to get the right ratio of nutrients, but I normally start at 450-500 PPMs, not 650. So if they are burned to shit next week, I learned a good lesson. 😀 Water is a little warmer than I like (72-73). My dark period is the hottest part of the day so the tent doesn't get below 75. I am going to switch the tent to 16/8, just to give the tent a little more time to cool down. Have a good week and thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 2. Vegetation
3 years ago
15.24 cm
16 hrs
27 °C
5.8
650 PPM
55 %
22 °C
24 °C
19 L
81.28 cm
Nutrients 6
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Grow 2.642 mll
A lot of growth this week, but they still look kind of pissed. Dragon Energy - Moving really fast. Tall. I have started to train the side branching and will top this 1 soon. My goal will be to bring 6 main tops to flower then see how she explodes from there. Alien Rift - A little slower veg, but that is always the case with this strain. Has the typical Alien leaf curling. Indian Kush Cake - 1 is deformed still. The main stem turned into 3 tops. The smaller 1 I am keeping around in case I don't want to keep the weird 1. I had some temp issues and a reservoir change on the bigger 1 is due. I mainly wanted to see what happens to the pH and EC if I let it go at this stage. The night time temps have been high 78-81, so I added a mister/humidifier and now the nights and days are a few degrees cooler. The heat waves seem to be over today, so I am hoping to get them back on track. They are still at 16/8 light schedule, the growth is good enough and I am not going to change it to 18/6, just 12/12 next week sometime. EC 1.2-1.4 - Ethiopian Flame is still at EC 1.4, which I think is high, but I am learning the limits of the nutrients. They dont look burnt, but they aren't so happy. The PPMs have stayed stable or even dropped to 680ish. The Alien and Indian Kush Cake are at 580-600 PPMs (EC 1.2). The PPMs have been stable all week along with the pH the last 4 days. pH 5.8-6.0 - The PH has been pretty solid at 5.9. I used pH down, but I have to use a lot to get it down to 5.8-6, so I let it stay and do its' thing and seems to stay right at 5.9. I think the FlaVUH really holds the pH stable. I am going to try and start my pH lower when I mix my nutrients and see if I can avoid the spike to 6.5+ when I do my change. I think the spike was from microbe activity tbh because my res foamed up good. So it could have been an interaction with the SLF, hydroguard, or some organic matter was in my res and caused some activity. We'll see, I'm just taking a guess for future reference. Have a good week and thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 3. Vegetation
3 years ago
20.32 cm
16 hrs
27 °C
5.8
650 PPM
55 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 6
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Grow 2.642 mll
They are looking ok. I am still trying to get used to these nutrients. The pH is a little wonky 3 days or so after a res change and it shoots up to 6.2-6.4. Plus the roots are looking a little funky, so I have to make sure I use SLF-100 on the res changes. The growth on the plants is good, but they don't look super happy ever. Flower in about 5 days. I topped 1 Alien and Indian last night. The rest were topped about 3 days ago. EC 1.3-1.4 - Pretty stable. pH 5.8-6.4 - Really trying to keep the pH at 5.5-5.8 but I have to use a lot of pH down. I am probably going to end up going back to botanicare. I was hoping the new Silica and FlaVUH would keep the pH pretty stable, but it isn't stable where I want it. Maybe these nutrients aren't good in my DWC setup. I will play with it over the next few weeks and see if I can get it dialed in. Have a good week and thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 4. Flowering
3 years ago
20.32 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
700 PPM
55 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 6
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Support 2.113 mll
F7 today. A lot of growth the last 10 days. Tent is starting to get full! Changed to flower nutrients on F3. I raised the lights on F7. 1 or 2 of the Ethiopian Flames in the back look a little light stressed and I used my PPFD app and had my light WAY too close. I raised my light from 19" to 24-25" above the canopy, that gives me a 950-1k PAR reading in the middle. Ethiopian Flame - 4 plants left. I am pretty sure I have 2 males:2 females, but I want to wait another couple days before I cull anything. Then I will be able to spread them out and train them. Alien Rift - 3 Plants in the back looking nice. Still waiting for the sexing and I plan to only flower 1. Indian Kush Cake - I am going to take a clone of the mutant on the left and flower it. She's the one who started off topping itself into 3 nodes and has some interesting mutations. The safer bet is probably the smaller plant but screw that, no ones favorite plant is the boring normal one. EC 1.4 - Everything is about 670-720 PPMs. I don't think I am going to stick with the new nutrients. Plants look healthy, but not sure it is better than botanicare and ventana nutrients are almost double the price. Plus I have to use a shit ton of pH down. I will probably keep their silica product as it doesn't mess with the pH when I add it. pH - 5.5-5.9. It always jumps up to 6.2-6.4 for 1-2 days after the res change. It is a pain in the ass to keep going back in and adding pH down. Early pH instability + cost are the main reasons I am going back to botanicare. Have a good week and thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 5. Flowering
3 years ago
71.12 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
700 PPM
55 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
71.12 cm
Nutrients 6
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Support 2.113 mll
F13 today. I did a large defoliation today and switched the Ethiopian Flame and The North Indian to botanicare nutrients. I added some before and after shots. They seem pretty pissed after the defoliation, so hope they bounce back tomorrow. I am having some pH pen issues, so I ordered a replacement and it should come tomorrow. I am a little nervous doing res changes with no pH pen, but I've done it enough to get it close. It is probably a touch high, but my guess is 6-6.4. Ethiopian Flame - I love the structure of the back plant and it bleeds! Hard to get a good pic, I will try to during this grow, but I saw some red stuff on one of the stems and it was sugars. When I did my defoliation if I squeezed the ends where I made the cut it slowly turns purplish/red. Very happy I have a couple clones rooted in solo cups of this girl! The dragon energy has the dragons blood strain bred by bodhi for that trait, so there was a small chance for me to get a plant with that trait. 28" Tall North Indian Kush Cake - I have a couple clones of this one too. I don't think they rooted yet. Eventually I will get some good pics of this weird one. Looks like it is fasciated on a couple cola's, but the stems aren't extremely flat like some other's I have grown and they have a bunch of growth tips. I defoliated all the growth tips to the top nodes on each arm. 18" Tall Alien Rift - Pretty sure I have 1 girl:1 boy, but still no white pistils. 14" Tall Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 6. Flowering
2 years ago
71.12 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
730 PPM
62 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 11
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Support 2.378 mll
F21. A lot of data this week. Feeding the Alien Rift Ventana nutrients still. Switched the North Indian and Ethiopian to Botanicare last week. Ethiopian Flame - Grew about 12-14" over the last 8 days. Responded very well to the defoliation. Moved them to the left side of the tent. The back plant isn't sitting properly in the net cup so it is leaning. Bent the tops down today. As always it seems I have height problems, so hope they don't repeat their growth explosion this week. A clone of the back plant is rooted in a 1 gallon soil pot and if the smoke is good and no problems, then I have myself a nice mother. I am very interested to see how the back plants' "blood" trait flowers.. maybe if I press it the concentrate will be red/purple. Would be very cool. Botanicare feed EC 1.45 - PPMs 720-740 - Base water 50 ppms + Armor si 15-20 ppms + Cal-mag 150-160 ppms = 210-220 ppms of micros + Bloom 460-480 ppms + hydroplex 30-40 ppms = 710-740 ppms I plan to increase the bloom booster slightly this week for more P, then about week 6 switch mainly to Remo's Astroflower for more K. The astroflower has a better NPK ratio than the hydroplex for later in flowering. Plants need less P (compared to weeks 3-5) and more K later in flower. PH 5.6-5.9. North Indian Kush Cake - Has mutations all grow. Topped itself and a fan leaf is coming straight out of the node. Looks like the new tops aren't flat stemmed, so I hope it forms normal buds. Same feed as the Ethiopian Flames. Less pH drops and stayed a little higher 5.7-6.0. Alien Rift - She is small but chugging along. I have this one rooted as a clone as well, but she isn't the most vigorous alien rift I've grown. Probably not a "keeper", but you can never know until the end. This is the only plant still on the Ventana Nutrients. Res Change F16 - 9ml/gal structure, 2ml/gal silica, 5ml/gal flavuh, 15ml/gal bloom, 1ml/gal expand. EC 1.55-1.6 - PPMs 780-800. Feeding it a little heavier as per the Ventana feed schedule/ She looks healthy, just small. Probably small due to the environment/strain than the nutrients PH 5.7-6.0. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 7. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
730 PPM
62 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 11
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Support 2.378 mll
F28 today. I think I survived the stretch on the Ethiopian Flames. I've been trying to keep the tops level. Almost 20" in the last 14 days. EC - 1.45-1.65 - Ethiopian Flame and North Indian on Botanicare nutrients. Alien Rift is using Ventana still. PH 5.6-6.0 Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 8. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
730 PPM
62 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 11
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.321 mll
Support 2.378 mll
F34 today. They are looking pretty good. Some nutrient problems. Looks like the front Ethiopian has a little too much N, so I will transition to a little less cal-mag, lower the EC from 1.5-1.6 to 1.3-1.4 and use more Remo Astroflower for its' 1-6-11 NPK ratio. The back Ethiopian is the one I have clones of and still bleeds red/purple. Love the way she is structured and she seems a little less sensitive to N. The North Indian Kush Cake looks a touch hungry. I have a clone of it, so next time I will add more P earlier. Blue leaves, red stems. Looks happy, but probably a touch underfed. I will keep this one around EC 1.6 for another week or so. Next run I should probably feed EC 1.6 from week 3 and a little heavier on the hydroplex early (0-10-6). The Alien is ok. This is the one on Ventana nutrients still. Looks happy enough. Small though. EC 1.6. Rising slightly, but the leaf tips don't look too burned, so I am keeping it around 1.6. Not the most vigorous Alien Rift I've grown, but as always finding its' spot and will produce decently. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 9. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
650 PPM
58 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
40.64 cm
Nutrients 11
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.057 mll
Support 1.849 mll
F41. Doing well. I did reservoir changes on them all and lowered the EC. Lowered the Cal-mag, hydroplex, base nutrients, and added 1-2ml/gal of the astroflower for less N and keep the P and K up. I did have 1 big PH drop on the Ethiopian and Indian (probably from all the K in the astroflower), but I lowered the EC slightly down to 1.25-1.3 and now the EC and PH has been stable for the last 3-4 days. I love the structure of the back Ethiopian Flame. It has a sweeter incense/hashy smell. Hard to tell when I touch all the plants. The Alien Rift is still the only plant on Ventana Nutrients. I really like the bloom booster with Ventana (0-4-4). It uses Barley Malt extract and it is thickkkkk. I'm thinking of adding it to my feed schedule and drop the astroflower.. save me having to buy a bottle. We'll see. As always, the Alien is stacking beautifully and even though it starts off a little slow, it never disappoints. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 11. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
600 PPM
58 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
40.64 cm
Nutrients 9
Structure 0.528 mll
FlaVUH 1.057 mll
Support 1.321 mll
F56 today. Been 2 weeks since my last update. Brought the EC down to 1.2 for Week 8. I added some water and am starting to bring the EC down closer to 1.0 for week 9. Ethiopian Flame - I love the structure and the stem rub of the back plant (E3). E3 is a bit sweeter smelling so far. The clone/mother I have sweats red/purple sap like the plant in flower, so I will be watching it closely as it finishes. The satellite branching can't hold the tops up on both plants. I added some more hooks to keep the side branching up. The front one is nice, but it was a little more sensitive to nitrogen and is a bit leafier and lankier. North Indian Kush Cake - Looks like it is the fastest finisher of the group. I might have to pull it around F63. I'm trying to push everything to F70 at least. She is drinking a lot less.. maybe .3 gallons a day, down from .5-.75 gallons Frosty as hell and the trichome heads look really fat and short. Some purpling too. Alien Rift - Still the only plant on Ventana nutes. I'll have just enough support to finish the run. It is a solid line. I'll save my final thoughts on ventana until after I harvest. It is having some deficiency and isn't finishing as fast as I am used to with the Alien Rift. She seems happy though and is bulking up nicely. The stem rub is on point too. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 12. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
600 PPM
58 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
40.64 cm
Nutrients 4
Hydroguard - Botanicare
Hydroguard 0.396 mll
Pure Blend Pro Bloom - Botanicare
Pure Blend Pro Bloom 2.113 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 0.33 mll
F63 today. Harvested the Ethiopian Flames on F61. Way earlier than I planned to harvest, but the back plant had about 5% amber, so she got the chop. The front plant was showing very little amber (>1%) and I would have liked to let it go longer, but the back plant is the 1 I am most interested in. The back plant passed the grow test so far. Next is the smoke test and if the Ethiopian smokes as good as I hope, I will keep this plant around. Eventually I plan to run a few clones of the Ethiopian and harvest at different dates to find the best effects/terps. North Indian Kush Cake- Lots of trichomes, some purpling. Very nice. This will be the next plant I harvest. My guess is 5 days. Feeding it around .8-.9 EC. I've been topping of the reservoir with only water and will continue to do so until harvest. My EC will probably end up around .6-.7. Alien Rift - Frosty as hell like Alien Rift always is, but she isn't bulking up as much as I'd like and the stem rub isn't as strong as usual. It could be the different nutrients, environmental, this pheno, or it needs more time to finish up. I plan to harvest it around F70-75. Since it is my wife's favorite strain, she is will be the determining factor if I keep this one around or continue my search for my Alien Rift keeper. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 13. Flowering
2 years ago
116.84 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
5.8
600 PPM
58 %
22 °C
22 °C
19 L
40.64 cm
F70. It is the Alien Rift show today. The Alien Rift is taking her time, but she looks beautiful. Not much amber yet (>1%) and she looks like she needs another 5 days at least. I added a pic of my Alien Rift, Soil Edition (F2). It was a clone of the Alien Rift in flower now. I want to see the difference in DWC vs Soil and keeping my fingers crossed it finishes before F70 otherwise I still have to hunt more Alien Rifts. There is still the smoke test, but I haven't been disappointed by the Alien Rifts yet. I left it in the 1 gallon for too long and she got a little hungry. I transplanted her to a 5 gallon last week and top fed some Fish Bone Meal. She looks happier the last couple days and if I need to add some bottle nutrients I will, but I plan on top feeding only and letting it ride. EC .7 - Alien Rift was the only plant on Ventana through flower. More info in previous weeks. PH 5.7-6.1 North Indian Kush Cake - Harvest F68 Ethiopian Flame - Harvested F61. Great stuff. I am going to wait a couple weeks before I add my harvest comments and smoke reports, but definitely going to run E3 (the back Ethiopian) again soon. The terps and smoke are 👍👍👍. Have a good week! 🚀🚀
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Week 14. Harvest
2 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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9/10
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Strayfox - North Indian Kush Cake (fem) Smell: Sourness and gas I get from cookie strains right up front. Then there is some sweet funkyness. Hard to describe and I'm going to get some feedback from some growers who are better at describing smells then me. Effects: Relaxing, chill, feel good weed. Great for watching a movie then heading to bed or during the day with some caffeine. This plant seemed to have a lot of the LA Kush Cake influence. The frost and bag appeal are amazing. The buds themselves are like itchy balls (sweet gum tree pods), dense, frosty and smelly. Solid yield.
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Spent 88 days
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140 g
Bud wet weight per plant
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I started this plant using Ventana Nutrients, then week 2-3 of flower, I swapped to botanicare nutrients. I was running out of Ventana and wouldn't have had enough to finish all the plants, so I kept one plant (Alien Rift) on Ventana. I think it wanted a bit more food. I kept my feed around EC 1.4-1.5 for most of flower. I think week 3-5 more P would have been better. Not a huge stretcher, fairly easy to train, just an excellent plant. Grow cycle - 101 days Germ - 8 Veg - 25 Flower - 68 Got this strain out to some friends and they loved it much more than I did. I liked the effects, but not my favorite. It moved real fast and people kept asking for it. Definitely something I will consider to run in the near future. Thanks for stopping by! 🚀🚀
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Week 14. Harvest
2 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Rated
9/10
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Doc D - Ethiopian Flame V2 I really enjoyed this strain and I received very positive feedback from everyone I gave it to. The first two plants are a daytime smoke for me. The effects are long lasting and I call it feel good weed. When I smoke it, I feel good. The third plant I harvested is ok for the day if you have to focus and work on a project, but if I have to do something physical, it makes it hard to get out of the chair. One plant is a little sweeter, gassy, pine and that is a little more cloudy headed, pain relief. Plant 2 has a beautiful lavender smell. There are many other smells in there, a little gas, but sweet floral lavender dominate the nose and taste. The lavender/floral smelling plant has the red sap trait. Plant 3 I harvested (journal is separate from this 1) is probably my favorite. After some cure I am getting citrus sweet notes, some spices, sandlewood, and maybe some gas. Great flavors and the effects are the strongest of the 3. Feels very spacey, uplifting, happy, makes my limbs heavy, relaxing, introspective, Love it. One or two friends didn't love Plant 2 because they like their HEAVY strains, but they still enjoyed the flavor and smell. I would give then Plant 3 to try, but it is my favorite, so that's staying in the head stash. 😁 Update a couple months later: I took a couple week break from the strain and loaded some in the bong and it is hitting hard. High as heck. Love the effects. Spacey, happy, cloudy, motivated. More details below.
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120 g
Bud wet weight per plant
2
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Added the harvest of the 3rd female to this grow report. I popped 6 seeds and I had 3 females:2/3 males (I don't remember if I sexed every plant). The 3rd female I culled early in veg. I needed the space and I dropped a power cord on her, cracked her main stem, so she was set back slightly. I took a clone though and she is in week 5 of flower doing very well! I added a pic of her in soil to provide a better idea on the structure of the plants. So out of the 2 I finished, the lavender smelling one I love. I keep going back to those jars, not because it isn't potent, but because I want to smoke it every day. I kept the skeleton of all the plants of my recent harvest in my closet for a couple weeks so I could compost them and I could still smell the lavender. Very strong. Nice color on the buds, they are a little darker. Harvested F61. I saw some amber late week 8. I wanted to take them to 65-70 days, but the other plant threw nanners. The other sweet, more gassy plant threw many many nanners at about F58. I plucked one or two and hoped for the best, but they kept coming. I would say this had another 5-7 days before optimal harvest, but the lavender one was ready. I haven't found any seeds in any of my harvest and I've been through a large portion of it. No real harm, but if you grow this watch your plants Week 8+. The satellite buds were heavy, so a lot of supports were needed. DWC Grow Stats: 8 Days - Germination 25 Days - Veg 61 Days - Flower 94 day grow cycle 10 gallon DWC 8.5-9 ounces E3, the lavender one, presses awesome. The smell is grape kool aid or sweet tarts. The color is a little darker yellow with hints of purple in it. I yield about 21-24% at 190F for 2 minutes. E5 (soil grown) The 3rd female I grew in 5 gallon stonington blend. Amended with fresh EWC, coco, and volcanic rock dust. I top fed fish bone meal week 1, 3, and 5. I messed up the watering during week 7-8ish and let her dry out way too much. She still finished and is awesome. I am happy I ran the third one because it is my favorite out of the bunch. Much more potent. It got hit with a little pollen from the Sky Lotus male I was using. I will end up with about 100 seeds. I didn't pollinate it directly, but it was next to the Amenesia Haze that I pollinated, so I figured it would happen. Thanks for reading and have a good day! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
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Week 14. Harvest
2 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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9/10
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Ran 3 plants. 2 males:1 female. I ran the same plant in DWC and then soil. I got much better terps, flavors, and effects in soil vs my DWC run. The soil plant smelled like how I am used to Alien Rift smelling. Pungent, greasy, gassy. So I messed up the dry/cure, it was an environmental problem, or my new nutrients this run (Ventana). The effects on my DWC run I actually like better as it doesn't seem as potent, more of a daytime smoke. The soil has more medical effects for my spouse, so she likes the soil much better. I will go into more details below, but overall a great grow experience.
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I am combining my harvest report for the Alien Rift soil run and this one. DWC Grow Stats: 8 Days - Germination 25 Days - Veg 75 Days - Flower 108 day grow cycle 5 gallon DWC Ventana Nutrients I started 3 plants in 1 5-gallon DWC. The lone female wasn't as vigorous and the males were shading her a bit, so she was smaller than I like heading into flower. It still stacked up and produced frosty nugs, but it wasn't as vigorous as I would like, so I will pop more seeds in the fall to find my keeper. This plant took a long time to ripen and as I mentioned above, the smells and potency just wasn't there. Smells were more flowery and some gas, but nothing like I am used to. Luckily the soil run went much better. Ventana Nutrients are a new line I tried. The Flavuh product has some proprietary polymer that is supposed to make the PH more stable. I would say my PH was a bit more stable compared to botanicare, but I only used it on 1 res in flower, so that result isn't really reliable. I am not going to continue to use it because of the price and the flower on the Alien rift wasn't what I am used to. So either it was the nutrients or environmental. I didn't like how the grow and bloom nutrients are only about 15 ppms per 1ml/gal, so you use a lot of your bottles per cycle. I did some math and the price is 50-70% more expensive than the botanicare, GH, and Remo lines because how much of each bottle you have to use. When something is labeled for cannabis they always hike the price to take advantage. No reason why they couldn't have made the flower and grow bottles more concentrated. Soil Grow info: 63 Days - Flower 5 gallon Stonington Blend amended with EWC, coco, and volcanic rock dust. The clone ripened and flowered much faster than the seed. F63-67 is when I normally harvest my Alien rifts. Much better smoke, effects, taste, and terps as I mentioned above. This is how my Alien Rift normally smells and hits. My wife uses it for her headaches and the last DWC run doesn't do as much for her as the soil plant. I top fed fishbone meal with some earthworm castings week 1, 3, and 5. She started to yellow out a little faster than I would have liked, so maybe 1 or 2 waterings with cal-mag would have helped. Smell: Gassy, pungent, lemon/spice. Effects: feels like wearing a helmet, relaxed, mood stabilizer Thanks for reading and have a good day! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
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StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 62 years ago
That Flame is a lanky beast! The unbalanced net cup can be a pain - I've got the same thing going on with my Formula One Plus. She's a leaner.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommented2 years ago
@Oozle,😂🤣😂🤣
Oozle
Oozlecommented2 years ago
@StunFlower, oh fancy an antique iron haha. Hard to find small heavy stuff.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommented2 years ago
@Oozle, Haha! I used an antique iron! Stability is the one thing I miss about using the 6" pail inserts with the built-in net pots in my buckets. Since switching to 4" net pots and fitting them through a hole cut out of the bucket lid, I've had a couple of leaners. I do like the 4" pots in that they're much less expensive and require far less hydroton.
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StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 43 years ago
The garden is looking great. Too true about the mutant plants being the most interesting ones 😅 I look forward to the results of your cloning efforts - have you cloned anything before? That's something I still have to try.
Oozle
Oozlecommented3 years ago
@StunFlower, I have some extra room so I figured if I can keep 1 or 2 nice plants in my stable. Some strains I get so much yield it takes me a year to go thru it. I am hoping the clones will allow me to run more, smaller plants.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommented3 years ago
@Oozle, Thanks for the info! Sounds to me like your first try was pretty darn successful. It's something I've always been interested in trying. I'll get to it one day!
Oozle
Oozlecommented3 years ago
@StunFlower, ty! I cloned some for the first time last week (8 Ethiopian Flames). I made a little DWC cooler for them. They rooted, but I burned them pretty bad (too much feed). So I am simplifying my strategy this time. The Ethiopian Clones showed roots and are in soil now, so they should make it. I think out of 8 original clones, 6 or 7 made it. Not bad for my first try. I am going to mother 1 of the Ethiopian flames if the smoke is excellent. This time I cut the Alien and Indian, used the rooting hormone and put them right into starter plugs in a humidity dome. Seems much easier than having to manage a reservoir. I will keep you updated with my results.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 142 years ago
Congrats on the harvest and thanks for the impressive grow report. Your comments about the terps in the DWC run vs. soil is very interesting. Disappointing that the DWC grow didn't net the expected result this time around - like you say, could be environmental and/or the change in nutes. I recently read that terps in flowers grown in DWC are not as strong as those grown in soil because of the humidity levels associated with DWC - "the plant doesn’t go through the natural short periods of drought that other plants do, which is what increases terpene production." Not sure how true this is - smells a bit like bro-science 😃
Oozle
Oozlecommented2 years ago
@StunFlower, Well drought stress does increase sugar content in fruit (apples in particular) trees, so I think that's where the theory comes from. But it would take someone to be very precise on how much drought stress and when.. so it isn't just stop watering "x" days before harvest and you get a better terps. So mostly bro science for cannabis growers until there is a study on how much and when to start the drought stress. If it is a fact, it should be reproduceable over and over again. I've had better or the same results with this strain in DWC, so I definitely wouldn't say soil > DWC, just in this instance haha. I'd have to do a lot more plants and a lot more strains before I came to that conclusion. I do get more expressions in soil, but that could be how I feed in DWC, so I've been bringing down my cal-mag and N more lately to see if I can match the color expressions I get in soil.
grzegorzdelaurans
grzegorzdelauranscommentedweek 62 years ago
are you feeding your plants with all 11 products at the same time?
Oozle
Oozlecommented2 years ago
@grzegorzdelaurans, no. I am running different nutrient lines for different plants. 1 plant (Alien Rift) is on Ventana nutrients. The other 3 (Ethiopian and North Indian) I am using botanicare. I was trying ventana nutrients out and I didn't have enough nutrients to finish them all. Week 2 of flower I switched all plants except the Alien Rift to botanicare.
grzegorzdelaurans
grzegorzdelauranscommentedweek 92 years ago
very nice
Oozle
Oozlecommented2 years ago
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 53 years ago
The bleeding Ethiopian Flame sounds wild! 🔥
Oozle
Oozlecommented3 years ago
@StunFlower, I have clones of it rooted into 1 gallons now. Im hoping to run the clone of it in december. Hoping to get some better pictures of the red/purple as it gets a bit older.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 13 years ago
I've had some higher than I'd like water temps as well with the hotter weather we've had this summer. Thankfully it's come down to a more comfortable level (70-71) over the past week or so. Your seedlings look great. Good luck with the new nute line - any reason for the change?
Oozle
Oozlecommented3 years ago
@StunFlower, A couple reasons. Botanicare is great, cheap, consistent, and easy to use but I have some pH problems. Im hoping this line is more stable. The Silica in this line is more stable than potassium silicate, so I am hoping that alone will help the swings. But the main reason is to try out the FlaVUH product. It has some proprietary stuff in it that is supposed to increase terps etc. IDK how true the stuff is, but it wasn't too expensive and figure I'd give it a shot.
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 142 years ago
Looks lovely and sounds delicious. Congrats on another great harvest!
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 132 years ago
Gorgeous 🔥
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 72 years ago
Nice trees! 🌴
Legiongrower
Legiongrowercommentedweek 62 years ago
Good luck😎👻
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 33 years ago
Ugh. The dialling of the nutes. It can be so frustrating 🤬
StunFlower
StunFlowercommentedweek 03 years ago
Love the germination cooler, and that exciting lineup of genetics, of course. I look forward to the show! 🌱 📺
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