12/11 - 12/17
Week 14 (week 6 after cloning)
12/17 - I know I have taken longer than usual to update this diary, but I really just didn't want to. I think I was embarrassed for some reason to update because this week I noticed deficiencies across all the plants that I caused. It was a mix of things that caused it. Serious family stuff distracted me for several days is the main excuse I will use. But there is also laziness in there and an issue with a lost item I was getting delivered. One last thing that maybe helped the issue along was that I had, just before this happened, cut a lot of the under leaves off... like I cleaned up the branches, like a pseudo lollipop just to open it up for air flow. I pruned a lot to open plants up for airflow and went against my better judgement cutting off bigger leaves than I normally would. It sucks cause maybe it wouldn't have been what it was if I didn't cut off as much.
**** I'll try and boil this down... really what happened was the plants ate their reservoirs faster than ever and I was only replacing with ph'd dechlorinated tap water. This, in addition to multiple other factors, in and out of the tent, caused multiple deficiencies. I am pretty sure I stopped the deficiencies from getting worse and are on the way to being corrected with the res change and then supplementing Cal-Mag.
The ordered item that was lost in transit was supposed to help with the res change and I was counting on it. So I waited an extra day past when I wanted to change the res. I wasn't paying much attention to the plants leading up to this cause of the family stuff. But when the item didn't come, I couldn't delay any longer. So I noticed the deficiencies the night before I changed the res. I noticed on 12/12, the res was changed on 12/13.
I read up on it and it looks like it was a mix of many deficiencies beginning because there were no nutes for 3 - 4 days, or at least tap water nutes and very diluted maybe left over res nutes. I was thinking P and or K deficiency in all the plants for sure. Then I think I read when this happen it also causes issues with other nute intake and caused a Calcium deficiency and even Magnesium in some places as well. It looks like Cal deficiency in the lower leaves on Plant D for sure. There are multiple lower large fan leaves that have the calcium deficiency rust spots. At least I think so. Then the top leaves are thinning, light green, have burning margins and blotchy dying spots, margins are getting highlighter green outlines. There's a lot going on.
So not much I can do about this really but just feed 'em and feed 'em right and consistently. The issue causing distraction has been dealt with, so I will no longer be distracted by that. I also learned a lesson about plants this big and feeding with only water. Now I will change how I do things moving forward when it comes to replenishing the reservoirs because replenishing with just tap water no longer works on these sized plants. I will now mix up a half volume batch to be ready for use by the middle of the week. That way I can replenish with nutes until full res change and hopefully avoid any deficiencies moving forward. I also used Cal-Mag xtra in place of Part A in the half volume batch for this week. So the plants will all be getting Cal-Mag Xtra with the supplemental feedings until res change. At which point I will add in Cal-Mag Xtra to the main res change along with the other nutes, part A included.
This was very unfortunate to have happened this week. But it was all my fault really. So whatever. It's funny, though, because I was going to flip to 12/12 lighting but I changed my mind after I saw the issues. So I decided that I would flip lights on 12/19 with the scheduled res change. So something to look forward to.
Otherwise, the branch that I kind of split a little on Sawtooth has healed fine. I am no longer LSTing the plants down as they are, for the most part, as formed as I can get them with my limited experience. I think I need to put up a trellis net now to start a support system... I could probably form Plant C more since it's behind, but I'm good where the plants are.
The roots are getting out of control and on some of the buckets are hard to even pull out because they get caught on the ring that floods the buckets. The roots are forming a harder ball/root mass and it even holds water! Like I was inspecting the roots and tilted it and so much water came out but when held upright no water would leak. out. The roots built themselves little root pockets. I have half a mind to get a marker or something and poke into the roots so that the cavities in the root masses have a drain. At this point, I am starting to think making it to the end is going to be a miracle. I may have to change to DWC halfway through flowering. I don't know.
So far though I have managed the roots very well for what it is, I'd say. Since the buckets aren't overflowing and there isn't a critical complete drain blockage yet. I mean you should really see these things... I wish I could get a photo easy... I did reduce flood time on the pumps down to 1m30s but it still floods every 1h30m. I was going to increase this back to 2h because the roots are holding water, like little water thieves, but didn't because of the deficiency issues.
At this point in the grow, the plants are now too big for me to get in the tent at all. The plants are too short and everything is too low to the ground. The plants are so bushy they are each touching each other and I cant get in there. This causes some issues, but at res change I will spin Sawtooth and Plant D so that the place where the res opens is facing the door. I can access Plant B and Plant C from the window in the tent and if I spin Sawtooth and Plant D I will be able to access and test all the reservoirs in the tent from outside the tent.
I typed the breakdown below because it doesn't come through in the above nutrient breakdown above.
For the reservoir composition:
Epsom - 10tsp
Silica - 60ml
Part A - 100ml
Part B - 100ml
B-52 - 60ml
Then the supplemental reservoir composition was 1/2 and I exchanged part A for Cal-Mag Xtra:
Epsom - 5tsp
Silica - 30ml
Cal-Mag Xtra - 50ml
Part B - 50ml
B-52 - 40ml
The roots grow through the net bucket and a mesh net I use for containment. Micron size too big, roots grew through. The mesh bag was a 2nd attempt at root containment. 3rd attempt will be very fine micron mesh screen. What could be a good way to deal with this?
They're gonna grow through the micron ones, too. root hairs are outgrowths of epidermal cells between 15 and 17 micrometers in diameter when fully grown. I wouldn't bother trying to contain them, rather solve clogging issues via other means
I have a problem developing and showing signs through this week. Looks like at least a calcium and a potassium deficiency in one plant and a another deficiency just starting in another. Not sure how to fix this. First 8 are one plant, last 2 are another. Photos taken over a week
Your pH is perfect... and even though you do seem to be giving them a lot of different nutes, I would suggest you increase the amount of your PK boosters... I'm seeing the start of a potassium deficiency... and since it's very hard to reach levels that would give you a toxicity of either potassium or phosphorus, I'd even tell you to double the amount of those...
Good luck!
Beautiful work man ๐ช๐ช getting frosty and there's so much more to come you're in for a treat with these terps ๐๐ good luck with the rest of your grow ๐
@DabbertGlobberfield, thanks man yeah she was tiny haha ๐คฃ was terrible weather was raining for months and we copped really bad flooding so she's the only one that survived was a good session worth once dried, if you've ever tried musk stick lollies it tasted like them but more intense almost like gassy citrus fruitloops haha only way I could describe it, it was so nice ๐ I'll be following along with your grow man keep up the good work
@BarneyRumble420, Thanks so much! ๐ช I saw your photo of the month Dec win, congrats! Then I saw you did GMP, too. I loved that little survivor flower baby. ๐
I really am looking forward to watching these girls develop further with colors. I am excited for the smells to kick in. They are so tame in their smell right now. I'm looking forward to comparing to your description ๐๐
@Herbies_Seeds, Thanks! I think it went well overall. I am really looking forward to growing some other genetics from Herbies. This was a great strain for my first time that helped me learn about the versatility of the plant.
Good stuff from my point of view. What press do you own? I have a shit ton of questions Iโd like to ask you but it seems youโre at the same stage as me. Itโs gonna be my first time bubble hash run myself. I got a larger press and was thinking bubble hash was the way to go til I read this lol. Maybe Iโll dm you so I donโt take up comment space, but then again itโs a way to build likes and others can learn from usโฆ
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Lol, all good. Ask me anything. What do you want to know? I will answer pretty much anything. However, I have a grudge against the manufacturer of my press so I will not be saying the name of it as to not give any kind of press for them at all. But it is a premade press, probably midrange in terms of size.
Typically it's Silica first, CalMag second, then everything else third. Silica and CalMag are heavy and can precipitate the others out of solution. If I forget to add them, then I make sure to dilute beforehand.