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DabbertGlobberfield DabbertGlobberfield
2 years ago
1/29 - 2/4 Week 6 flower 2/1 - I've decided Plant D has root rot or something with the roots causing problems. Then some leaves on Plant D are really bad. I've cut a bunch off that were done. But now it is starting to look like light bleaching. The plant looks crazy, but just in a few spots. Otherwise, all 3 other plants are fine. No light burn/bleaching. I don't want to reduce the light because one is having a hard time with it. Anyways, now that I have decided it's root rot, I will focus on fixing that. Good thing I have already been applying Great White. I will also get and apply hydroguard to this reservoir. Hopefully that will quell the root rot and this plant can calm down. In the mean time, I tried to reduce nitrogen where I could and increased the overall amount of P and K. I tried to hit 650ppm/1.3ec with the feeding and I think we landed around 689ppm. So not bad. This will only reduce as we go. Also, I flushed all the plants this time. I haven't done that. But based on the DWC water diagnosis thing Sawtooth and Plant C were crashing pH. Last thing, I think I reduced the water by 10 gallons, so my mixing reservoir was 20 gallons? I don't know, but that's what I'm going to put as a guess to make the nutrient math happen. It's weird, I am noticing this cycle with feeding. It's like, while there is something in the water that the plants are eating the pH is high. As it eats it the levels normalize and the pH is stable for a few days. But then I think when the water is done, the pH will crash low, I saw 4.8 one time and I check 2x-3x a light cycle. But that is just Sawtooth and Plant C. Whereas the other two, they are the opposite, constantly rising pH. Although, I was able to get them to ride high pH, like 6.2 and stay there. So I figured as long as they were steady at 6.2 and didn't go up, fine. Then I read that potassium has a harder time getting into the plant above 5.8 pH and the plants seem to have the potassium issue. So I will try and keep the pH lower within my acceptable range. The roots on all the plants look ok. There was a slight smell to Plant B and D's reservoir. They got a double flush? Or just a more thorough flushing really. Like before I changed the waters, I flushed Plants B and D, then drained that and added more flush water with the other plants. Then drained and filled with nutes. I also have been "brewing" some great white instead of instantly applying. I put 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water and shake it up constantly and keep it close to my heat source for the tent. This way it is germinating spores in the water prior to going into the reservoirs. Because, when I would apply great white to reservoir water I found that a good amount of it would just fall out of suspension. I think the best way will be to find an amount of water that suspends all the spores. Because even 1/4 teaspoon in 1 gallon had visible sediment at the bottom of the gallon. But otherwise the water was cloudy with the spores. So now that I have the great white like this in the jug, I applied like 100ml to each of the root masses as I was filling the reservoirs with water. 2 of the plants, D/B, have a large amount of one of the mycorrhizal fungi growing on the roots. I took a few photos. All of the roots have the growth to some extent. Now for the worst thing and a problem I encounter constantly as a new grower asking for help on the internet. There are some photos of bracts along with ovules. I had a crash course in cannabis reproductive biology over the weekend. After I had gotten the digital microscope, I wanted MORE stuff to look at so I started plucking "bracts" off the lower branches that I didn't completely take off when defoliating. I looked in one and found what looked like an underdeveloped seed. Also, I plucked more than one and another of the bracts had a premature seed looking thing on the outside that came out when I plucked it. When I saw that I immediately thought about the flower I found that I thought had been pollinated and was told not to worry about it. So I was like great... and pulled 8 more bracts across Plants B and C. All 8 had the premature seed things(they are called ovules). What I am talking about are those little stupid seed looking guys that are always in weed or build up in your grinder and then at some point all you see are these little seed things. Yea, those. So I needed to know, and I was wondering this at the end of last weeks post. Well I actually don't know the answer cause people on the internet are helpful until a point. I had asked about the bract and if it would have turned into a seed and all that. I was told, Yes, it would and that there would probably be other seeds. This worried me due to the location where I pulled the bract from. Because if that was pollinated then everything was going to be. So I'm not happy at that point. Like really discouraged because I'm like what a waste of time. I mean really. That's what I was thinking. It was trash at that point to me. Garbage. I failed. But I still wasn't done digging because a lot of the other answers were dumb too. Well most of what people respond with in forums is stupid. Anyways, I pulled 8 more bracts from Sawtooth and plant D this time. All 16 bracts across the 4 plants were taken from random locations on the plants including flowering sites. All bracts had ovules in them. Now... at this point, I was reviewing biological information on how this all works and looking for ways to determine, by using the plant's physiology, if there was a pollination event. This is when I started piecing it all together and to be honest with you... I just asked chatgpt. I asked it my basic cannabis biology questions after making sure it could speak about that unrestricted. It was way more helpful than the forum and confirmed my suspicions... ALL BRACTS AND CALYXES HAVE OVULES IN THEM. PERIOD. This blew my mind really because I thought I would only see the "premature looking seed things" in buds here and there. I didn't think it was something that applied to every weed ever. So ok... now I'm like well this explains why I am finding ovules everywhere. But why did the forum people immediately say yep, seed yep. I went back and reread it and that's when I realized no one even paid attention. So I asked them what I asked chatgpt, they confirmed the bract/calyx ovule thing as well. So then I asked how they were able to determine that the ovule I presented in the photo of it in a bract with the pistil/stigma still attached to it. They were not able to determine for sure. SO this means that the plants probably haven't been pollinated. It also taught me, after several instances of this, to stop asking for plant help on the internet and just use research and established fact on record to answer issues. OH, last thing. I turned up the 2nd air pump all the way. I read how dissolved oxygen levels are depleted when there is root rot. So to aid in any kind of recovery I can, while Great White does its work and while hydroguard is on the way, I cranked it up. I say 2nd, because I am using 2 different air pumps. At first it was for fun, now it's for real. Also, I'm going to check plant D's air stone to make sure it's working well.
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Grow Questions
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfieldstarted grow question 2 years ago
The roots grow through the net bucket and a mesh net I use for containment. Micron size too big, roots grew through. The mesh bag was a 2nd attempt at root containment. 3rd attempt will be very fine micron mesh screen. What could be a good way to deal with this?
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BelgianBudtender
BelgianBudtenderanswered grow question 2 years ago
They're gonna grow through the micron ones, too. root hairs are outgrowths of epidermal cells between 15 and 17 micrometers in diameter when fully grown. I wouldn't bother trying to contain them, rather solve clogging issues via other means
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfieldstarted grow question 2 years ago
I have a problem developing and showing signs through this week. Looks like at least a calcium and a potassium deficiency in one plant and a another deficiency just starting in another. Not sure how to fix this. First 8 are one plant, last 2 are another. Photos taken over a week
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Leaves. Edges burnt
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
Your pH is perfect... and even though you do seem to be giving them a lot of different nutes, I would suggest you increase the amount of your PK boosters... I'm seeing the start of a potassium deficiency... and since it's very hard to reach levels that would give you a toxicity of either potassium or phosphorus, I'd even tell you to double the amount of those... Good luck!
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BarneyRumble420
BarneyRumble420week 19
Beautiful work man ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช getting frosty and there's so much more to come you're in for a treat with these terps ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ good luck with the rest of your grow ๐Ÿ™Œ
BarneyRumble420
BarneyRumble420
@DabbertGlobberfield, thanks man yeah she was tiny haha ๐Ÿคฃ was terrible weather was raining for months and we copped really bad flooding so she's the only one that survived was a good session worth once dried, if you've ever tried musk stick lollies it tasted like them but more intense almost like gassy citrus fruitloops haha only way I could describe it, it was so nice ๐Ÿ™Œ I'll be following along with your grow man keep up the good work
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@BarneyRumble420, Thanks so much! ๐Ÿ’ช I saw your photo of the month Dec win, congrats! Then I saw you did GMP, too. I loved that little survivor flower baby. ๐Ÿ˜Œ I really am looking forward to watching these girls develop further with colors. I am excited for the smells to kick in. They are so tame in their smell right now. I'm looking forward to comparing to your description ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
Apple_Jack514
Apple_Jack514week 18
Those girls are looking so healthy and thriving!!
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@Apple_Jack514, Thanks! I'm tryin my best ๐Ÿ’ช
bioaccessory
bioaccessoryweek 12
you're doing great, don't stop๐Ÿ‘Œ
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@bioaccessory, Thanks! Can't stop won't stop ๐Ÿ˜‹
BarneyRumble420
BarneyRumble420week 24
Amazing work man beautiful stuff ๐Ÿ’ช
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@BarneyRumble420, Thanks so much! It came out so great!
SooSpicey
SooSpiceyweek 22
๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ’จ๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@SooSpicey, ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท โœŠ ๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ˜ท๐Ÿ‘Œ
HAPPYWEEDS
HAPPYWEEDSweek 20
Amazing trich density ๐Ÿ˜Ž Looking so frosty man! Well done ๐Ÿ––๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐ŸŒฌ๏ธ๐Ÿ’จโ„๏ธ
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@HappyWeeds, Thanks so much! Really really frosty, I can't believe it! ๐Ÿ’ช
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 20
Power to the scrOG ๐Ÿฅ…โœŠ๐Ÿผ Frosty bitch๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿผ
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@ChefDan420, ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘Œ Very nice! Yea, the scrOG is doing well ๐Ÿ™Œ
Herbies_Seeds
Herbies_Seedsweek 24
Have a good grow ๐Ÿ˜‰
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@Herbies_Seeds, Thanks! I think it went well overall. I am really looking forward to growing some other genetics from Herbies. This was a great strain for my first time that helped me learn about the versatility of the plant.
FrontRowAG_BrianG
FrontRowAG_BrianGweek 24
Good stuff from my point of view. What press do you own? I have a shit ton of questions Iโ€™d like to ask you but it seems youโ€™re at the same stage as me. Itโ€™s gonna be my first time bubble hash run myself. I got a larger press and was thinking bubble hash was the way to go til I read this lol. Maybe Iโ€™ll dm you so I donโ€™t take up comment space, but then again itโ€™s a way to build likes and others can learn from usโ€ฆ
DabbertGlobberfield
DabbertGlobberfield
@FrontRowAG_BrianG, Lol, all good. Ask me anything. What do you want to know? I will answer pretty much anything. However, I have a grudge against the manufacturer of my press so I will not be saying the name of it as to not give any kind of press for them at all. But it is a premade press, probably midrange in terms of size.
NegotiatedBubble
NegotiatedBubbleweek 17
Typically it's Silica first, CalMag second, then everything else third. Silica and CalMag are heavy and can precipitate the others out of solution. If I forget to add them, then I make sure to dilute beforehand.