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Prilyfe13 Prilyfe13
2 years ago
February 21, 2023 Skywalker OG: Day 31 Height: 13" DLI: 25.9 Wedding Glue: Day 24 Height: 4" DLI: 19.9 This week we have 2 very different plants. Skywalker OG is growing really tall. She is 3 times taller than Wedding Glue. However, Wedding Glue is growing quite broad and her internodal spacing is pretty short. She has 5 nodes while Skywalker OG has 6 and is well spaced out for better air flow. On the other hand, there is a 5 day difference between them and a lot of growth happens around now for day 26. Maybe Wedding Glue will catch up in a few days. Watering these ladies is perfect. The wicking system is super efficient. Skywalker OG already has some air pruning to do. Moisture levels are hovering just around 54%. They are starting to take in more water daily. Skywalker is around 750 ml while Wedding is around 350ml. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.8° RH: 55.1% VPD: 1.21 kPa February 22, 2023 Today is another day of watching and observing. For instance, Wedding Glue is supposed to get kinda tall. Mine is extremely short, but really wide. That being said, I'm using a mix of 50/50 Ocean Forest and Happy Frog. I've never used it before, but from what I understand, I need to add nutrients. So all I really have is advanced and lotus. I decided on advanced nutrients. Mine is the PH perfect micro grow bloom. Because she is an autoflower and in soil that is known to be a bit hot, I am using quarter strength for now. On the other hand, Skywalker OG is quite the opposite. She has been growing vigorously in Sohum Living Soil. She grew about 1.5" over the last 16 hours. So far she doesn't seem to need any grow nutrients. I think I will try lotus nutrients in one of my new ladies. I also use tiger bloom. Maybe I'll try the lotus nutrients as well and leave the tiger bloom out of it. Other than that, I'm not seeing any problems with these ladies whatsoever. Water uptake is still pretty slow. I'd say about 500 ml a day so far. But this wick system is really efficient. Kinda like my Puffco Peak Pro. Just sayin. Lol never waste concentrate. Skywalker is taking in a bit more water now that I think of it. Maybe 750ml a day. Light intensity: Skywalker DLI: 28.5 Wedding Glue DLI: 20.2 Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.2° RH: 55.3% VPD: 1.18 kPa February 23, 2023 Today I recalibrated my Photone App. Much better reading. Skywalker OG: Looks great! Growing super fast everywhere. She looks like she may get a bit bushy as well. DLI: 39.0 Wedding Glue: Why is she still so short? She should have started at least a bit of stretch by now. Maybe she will be a little later and will spike right up. DLI: 22.3 Grow System Environment: Temp: 70.8° RH: 52.3% VPD: 1.20 kPa February 24, 2023 Skywalker OG is fantastic! She is stretching like mad now. I can't wait to see when she is done with her stretch. DLI: 41.5 Wedding Glue is still REALLY short. Like 5" tall. I really hope she grows up very soon. She is pretty wide though. At least as wide as she should be, but she missed the whole stretching memo. I don't get it. DLI: 21.2 Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.2° RH: 52.8% VPD: 1.24 kPa February 25, 2023 Skywalker is growing so fast. Another inch and a half last night. She has a wonderful structure and great coloring. No training on this one. Maybe some light defoliation. However, Wedding Glue is really confusing me. She still hasn't stretched at all. I think I'm going to blame my lack of knowledge on the soil I'm using. I've only ever used living soil. This has to be the issue. But I don't know. No DLI today. I'll record it on the beginning of next week. I forgot to mention that Skywalker OG just started to flower. Massive pistils so far and big bud development. I can't wait to see what she looks like in a couple weeks. Wedding Glue has not started flowering yet. Weird. Grow System Environment: Temp: 72.2° RH: 51.7% VPD: 1.28 kPa February 26, 2023 Today we have a bit of movement from Wedding Glue. Not much, but some. She grew a half inch last night. Maybe she will start to pick up speed in the coming days. Skywalker OG as before is stretching like mad. She has 8 nodes now and looks like more coming along. She is starting to fill out a bit as well. I'm very happy with her. I'm not completely happy with the Wedding Glue thus far. Granted, she is beautiful and lush, but the height is a bit of an issue for me. She's building up moisture between her leaves and I definitely cannot cut them out. Not yet at least. DLI: Skywalker OG: 42.6 Wedding Glue: 24.7 Grow System Environment: Temp: 71.9° (daily average) RH: 55% VPD: 1.18 kPa February 27, 2023 Skywalker OG for the win! She's stretching and growing. Beautiful color, lush, tall and filling out. She already has a distinct smell along her stems. She is also just in the flowering stage. Wedding Glue is getting really bushy. She isn't stretching yet, but hopefully in the next few days. She isn't in pre-flower yet, so I expect a good stretch very soon. She is lush and beautiful. She just needs to get some vertical growth. Lights: Skywalker OG: 45 Wedding Glue: 24.7 Grow System Environment: Temp: 71.8° RH: 54.6% VPD: 1.18 kPa
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Grow Questions
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Anyone have any advice on what mix ratio I should use with Fox Farm Happy Frog and Ocean Forest with Autoflowers? I've only ever used living soil. I also have Advanced Nutrients PH perfect base nutrients and Lotus Nutrients if needed. Tiger Bloom too. Thanks!
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Setup. Substrates
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greenAF
greenAFanswered grow question 2 years ago
I have heard plenty of ppl doing a 50/50 blend, i used all HF for my two grows so far, was planing doing a 50/50 for next...
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Does anyone have a suggested insight for grow light height? AC Infinity IONBOARD 240w LED. 100% AC Infinity Grow Tent 3x3x6 Autoflower Perpetual Harvest: 4 Week Cycle Plants: 2 Flowering and 2 Veg. Schedule: 18/6. Temp: Day 76° Night 67° Average 74.3° RH: Average 52% Thanks
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Setup. Lighting
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Grow4Releaf
Grow4Releafanswered grow question 2 years ago
Best to get a light meter. Photone or tentbuddy. Not sure what works on what phone but look into a meter for sure . Tentbuddy gives u outlines for veg and flower along with a VPD Calculator. It's hard to just say "lift it 24in above" the light meter will get u in the best range.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Why is my Wedding Glue Auto so short? She's healthy as can be. The issue here is that she is in day 30 with zero signs of upward growth and only 5.5" tall. Can I fix this somehow? Huge leaves though. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Look at the diary to see.
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Plant. Too short
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 2 years ago
She is growing slowly.. But, I can see she's only around pushing up her 5 or so set of nodes. She will get bigger. She's just slow going atm.. had the same thing with my lemon pie and took her ages to flip. She'll put on most of her height during pre flower. Idk her traits but she looks mainly indica with her big fat leafs. Indicas grow much lower and have more girt. Sativas grow higher that have less girt. But, sometimes plants especially autos are unpredictable. Wouldnt worry about it to much. Good growing
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
After much research, I couldn't find anything on how to properly handle a really short plant. Does anyone have a thought about this? Or how to induce extra stretch? This is for documentation and research for this particular grow situation. Please see week 5 entries. Thanks all!
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Plant. Too short
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
Just don’t. Not with your set up. It will stretch upon initiation of flower. It’s an auto, those ruderalis genetics are like that
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Looking for suggestions and opinions on "light defoliation". What percentage of leaves are removed during a light defoliation? This is for my short bushy Wedding Glue. Should I just remove the biggest fan leaves and call it a day? Thanks all!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhanswered grow question 2 years ago
No need for defol right now. You’re at a critical point you don’t want to hinder anything. You have a great even canopy. Let her be.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Looking for popular opinion. My Skywalker OG Autoflower is a bit leafy right now. Nothing crazy see pics. Should I trim some or leave her alone?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 2 years ago
I'd say leave her be my guy. You need those leaves for photosynthesis. To make those nice beautiful flowers! Besides she doesn't really have an abundance of leaves from what I can see. I hope this helps.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I've always wondered this and never asked. Should all cannabis plants go through senescence? I only ask because I've only ever had 1 plant that went through it. Am I harvesting too early? Or does it even matter? These are autoflower grows.
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Other. Other
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Growstick
Growstickanswered grow question 2 years ago
If you're nailing the nutrition, don't do a pre-harvest flush, and the genetics don't support it, then there's a good chance you won't see senescence and there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you're happy with the trichomes on your grow, then no one can you tell it's the wrong time to harvest. There's a lot of debate about "flushing" and what it can or can't do for your plant (including a lot of recent research on this). Many top professional farms don't flush at all and as a result they see little to no senescence in their crop. That said, I always flush - probably due to habit and/or bro-science - and I do always see a "fade" as a result. I've no way or telling you if this actually improved the smoke or quality though. Latest research suggests that it doesn't really help, but that probably won't stop me doing it every harvest! 😂
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I normally don't ask more than one question a week, but I believe I'm at a critical point with my wedding glue. She hasn't grown at all in the last 2 days at 14.5". I haven't defoliated yet because of stretch, but I think she's done. Should I defoliate or wait a few more days?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 2 years ago
Yeah bud, I'd say it's definitely a good time to defoliate that lady. Shes quite the bush.
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Another question?! Anyway, what the hell is this browning? I think it's light burn. But why is it lower too? PH? Magnesium? Nitrogen toxicity? Par: 1300 PPFD Fox Farm tiger bloom 7 ml/gal. Fish Shit 3 ml/gal. See diary for environmental conditions. Thanks for the help. Again.
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Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
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Growstick
Growstickanswered grow question 2 years ago
That is helpful @Prilyfe13. I think we can definitely narrow it down to two things - a lack of Calcium (which matches your description of brown dots progressively getting worse and becoming more blocky), and possible light burn. If the issue is only affecting the very top of the plant nearest the light, then I believe you may have hit the nail on the head with light burn. Looking at your photo dated 19th March, the issue wasn't present in it's current form then, but I can see the sides of the leaves starting to curl up. This is THE classic light burn symptom. It begins on the sides of the leaves (rather than the tips, like nutrient burn) and then progresses inwards. But, you've obviously described a classic calcium deficiency as well, as I said... so perhaps it's six of one and half-dozen of the other! When it comes to living soil, I am certainly no expert, but my understanding is that you don't generally need to add too much in the way of nutrients as this is mostly in the soil already. Hopefully someone with more experience than me in this field will be able to help you... That said, if you don't get any more expert advice, I would probably err on the side of caution and raise/dim the lights (as you have done) and then maybe incorporate some Cal-Mag into the next few feeds, just to be sure it's getting enough. I don't think I've ever seen calcium or magnesium toxicity myself, so if you're using the small recommended doses, I can't see that it would cause any harm even if it doesn't need it. RE: Fish shit - I don't think this is the cause. So long as you're only using the recommended dosages, it should be fine. RE: an equipment list - don't even get us started or it will never end lol. All you technically need is air, water, soil and the sun... that doesn't explain why my spare room looks like the inside of Area 51's weapons testing facility. 😂 PH and TDS/EC meters are great, but I managed to grow successfully for years without them - particularly growing in soil which is much more forgiving. Its the same with basically every growing accessory I own. The main thing, to me, is managing the growing environment: keeping humidity high in veg and low in flower, keeping temps in the ideal range in the day and at night, etc. Those are the hardest things to do as you might be fighting against building itself, weather and geography etc, which are not battles that can be easily won. In future, if you want to keep your plants smaller and spread out the canopy more to avoid light burn and increase the PPFD or what would otherwise be lower branches, I would recommend that you start practicing LST or SCROG'ing, but that's more a technique than an accessory - other than the plant ties you'll need to make LST'ing easy. 😁 Good luck!
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
Week 10 question for Wedding Glue. I know there is a lot of controversy over trimming autoflowers. Let's say it's semi safe. She's super bushy again. Should I do another defoliation? OR wait another few days? I'm worried about timing. I have very little left. Thanks all!
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Natrona
Natronaanswered grow question 2 years ago
Hi, I follow @LegacyMarketFarm here and on you tube. He indicated there should be final defoliation 3rd week after flowers start. This forces energy to all remaining bud sites. I did this with my plants to keep down any mold issues since I couldn't control humidity. .I will say, however, there are many different thoughts on the 3rd defoliation. Happy growing and have fun 👍
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
I ordered an auto feed base kit from AC Infinity. It comes with built in water level indicators. Does anyone know where I can get a wireless probe to replace the standard indicator? I can check the levels remotely. Like a low high level indicator or a float? Thanks!
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Feeding. Automatic systems
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Sciolistic_Steve
Sciolistic_Steveanswered grow question 2 years ago
check yard irrigation brands? orbit, rainbird, dig, or maybe an amazon search to find possibilities, even if not bought from there. there are definitely options out there, i do not know if they all function on the same protocol (plug n play accross brands? standardizations?)
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
So I have a bottom feed wick system. Works great, but now my plant is dry on the bottom and seems to have slowed down to a trickle of water uptake. What does this mean? The soil is also drying out pretty quickly as well. See Diary for further details. What do I do? Thanks!
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Feeding. Automatic systems
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GrowingGrannie
GrowingGrannieanswered grow question 2 years ago
If this was my grow, I would be watering from the top since she's not taking it up from the wicking and is drying out.... the last thing you want is for your entire plant to turn crispy. Water until there's some runoff and then wait to see if the runoff is soaked back up into the pot - if it is, give more water until it stops soaking it back up and then throw away the excess... Good luck!
Prilyfe13
Prilyfe13started grow question 2 years ago
What do I do with this overly leafy plant? I'm pretty sure the foliage caused very airy buds and tops. What should I do here? Major defoliation before 48 hours of dark? Leave it, cut the branches off when harvested and run a dry trim or with this should I run wet trim? Thanks!
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Leaves. Too many
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massivetids
massivetidsanswered grow question 2 years ago
This plant is looking beautiful! I would not recommend to defoliate this late in the growing phase. Just make sure that there will be enough moving air around this plant to prevent fungals. The only advice that I can give to you for this plant is to cut down the nutrients a bit. You are giving too much. 75% from what you are giving now is more then enough till harvest.
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Good luck with your grow 💪
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Happy growing 🌱
Lungboi
Lungboiweek 5
Good luck with the grow bud!! Both girls are looking lovely, can't wait to see how they turn out🙏
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@Lungboi, "bud" hahaha. I see whatcha did there.
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@Lungboi, SAME! HAHAHA Thanks!
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Happy Growing, Buddy! 🌱🌱🌱
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UnkleSkunkweek 5
complimenti per il diario vorrei riuscire a scrivere cosi tante informazioni come fai tu ..ma sono pigro 😅
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@Prilyfe13,invece io solo sulle piante mi ricordo tutto :P
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@UnkleSkunk, Thanks! I have a memory issue, so details details. Lol
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mcflowweek 7
Looks great! Good luck growing🍀
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Lovely 💚
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Seems like there coming along good my friend 👍Happy Growing