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bud_potter 6 Sour Brulee seeds dropped into pure distilled water pH'd to 6.0 - Jar left overnight in humidity dome with Super Sprouter propagation heat mat to stay 10 degrees above ambient temp (water was 78F), all 6 seeds popped with 2-6 mm long taproot showing 24 hrs later. Transferred to GH Rapid Rooters that soaked overnight in distilled water with 1ml/g Rapid Start - placed into humidity dome then into propagation tent under 10 watt LED light - PPFD 130, DLI 8.4 @ 18/6 photoperiod. VPD 0.6. Will only be growing 4 of these 6 seeds, two will be discarded based on growth characteristics. This is a breeding run.
Update: 5 days after planting - everything moving along smoothly. One of the seedlings displayed irregular growth so I went ahead and removed it...I will be looking to remove one more before transplanting to the main grow area as only 4 of these will be grown out. These will be going into solo cups this week to start the veg cycle, and once they have an established root system they will be transplanted to the main grow area under the HID. PPFD 150 VPD between 0.5-0.8.
The water source for this run will be well/tap h20 cut to roughly 80/20. My well water is 50ppm/5.1pH and tap is 125ppm/7.0pH so I cut to about 80ppm/6.4pH and aerate for 24 hrs... this works wonderfully.
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1
Week 1. Vegetation
2y ago
1/6
10.16 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
No Smell
394 PPM
60 %
25 °C
22 °C
12.7 cm
Nutrients 8
pH Perfect Grow 0.793 mll
pH Perfect Micro 0.793 mll
pH Perfect Bloom 0.793 mll
bud_potter Three seedlings, two of which will be grown in Promix with liquid nutrients, and one of which will be grown fully organic in super soil, were transplanted into solo cups with Promix BX (20% additional perlite) cut down to 1/3 of the cup to help facilitate quicker dry backs. From my experience, this is far superior to using the entire solo cup and only watering/feeding once the first week and a half, risking pH issues, stunted growth, and root rot. With these small solo cups, roughly the same height of the rapid rooters, the initial watering will last only 2-3 days...within 1.5-2 weeks you will need to water/feed every day. This will result in a thriving root system. One seedling, which will be grown in DWC, was transplanted into a 4" RW cube. All plants were fed the same solution (detailed above), with the Promix seedlings pH 6.2 and the RW seedling pH 5.7. Promix runoff of initial feeding was roughly 20% runoff @ 6.2/394 in - 5.6/1580 out...from my experience this will be much more balanced within the next couple feedings so we can get a better idea of what's really going on in there...with that said 5.6 is pretty darn good for the initial watering (I've seen as low as 4.7 with other peat-based brands) so kudos to Promix for offering a wonderful product. VPD bouncing around between 0.6-0.9, PPFD @ 150/DLI 9.7. This will mark the end of the seedling period and the beginning of week 1 of the vegetative period, with tomorrow (2/3) marking the completion of the first day. All plants will be transplanted into 4x4 area under 600w HID lighting within the next week.
Update (2/5): Day 2 Veg - All plants moved to 4x4 area under Ushio 600W MH bulb @ 75% power 250 PPFD/DLI 16.2/VPD 1.0
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Week 2. Vegetation
2y ago
1/4
20.32 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.3
No Smell
745 PPM
65 %
25 °C
22 °C
35.56 cm
Nutrients 10
SNS-209 2.113 mll
pH Perfect Grow 1.585 mll
pH Perfect Micro 1.585 mll
bud_potter Very smooth run so far. Pest prevention began this week with all plants being sprayed with Azamax and introduced to SNS-209. All plants were topped on day 7 veg and three of four plants were transplanted on day 8 veg. Two plants will be grown in 5g fabric pots, one will be grown in a 3-gallon fabric pot, and one will be grown in a 3-gallon DWC bucket. One plant (A - 5g) is being grown in super soil with only natural and organic fertilizers and will not be introduced to any synthetic nitrates which should, theoretically, lower water content and maximize brix (brix testing will begin around week 4-5 and will be included in updates). One plant (B - 5g) will be grown syn-organically in medium strength living soil with reduced strength synthetic nutrients - the idea is to see if one can achieve "the best of both worlds." One plant (C - 3g) will be grown in pure pro-mix bx/perlite with only synthetic nutrients. One plant (D - 3g DWC) will be a sterile DWC grow with only synthetic nutrients. B and C were fed 1 pint of the solution detailed above at transplant but at different strengths (Hanna: B:745ppm/C:440ppm - pH 6.3), and A was fed 1 pint water with Primordial Solutions Seagreen and Rootamentary, Recharge, Zyme, and Hydroguard (140ppm/pH 6.4). No runoff to be tested for this feeding due to small amount of solution being administered. This is a legally licensed run, and I am comparing/contrasting growing methods to see what produces the highest brix/yield/cannabinoids. All plants will be sent for lab testing of cannabinoids and terpenes during week 4 flower (results will be posted) as well as after harvest. The plan is to have a 35'X10' grow running and an established LLC by this time next year, and I want verifiable proof (no bro science) of which methods produce the best balance of quality and yield, with yield being secondary to quality. I will not be growing for flower, however, but for breeding. The flower will obviously be harvested and tested for quality and to select cultivars. Each plant will be cloned 3 times in approx week 4-5 and the winner of these four plants will be back crossed into fem seeds and pollen will be harvested to be used moving forward. VPD bouncing around between 0.8 and 1.2 - PPFD 250, DLI 16.2 @ 18/6.
bud_potter Still breezing along. Plants recovered well from topping and transplanting last week and are juuuuust starting to get established in their new homes. The plants have just finished up their first 5 consecutive feeding run of SNS-209 and will not receive any more until the beginning of week 2 flower. So far, the syn-organic plant (B) is the most impressive in terms of overall health and size. The fully organic plant (A) is the smallest by far and is showing a slight magnesium and nitrogen deficiency, but I'm sure it will get with the program soon. In my experience organic plantings are a little more finicky in the beginning but wind up being lush once they've fully established themselves (in theory this can be avoided by "cooking" the soil for a couple weeks, but I didn't receive my super soil concentrate until a few days before beginning the run). Plant A (5g full organic) will receive some Epsom salt solution and a top dressing of ewc and Dr. Earth Homegrown (fastest acting N i've seen from a dry fert) for the next watering. C (fully synthetic 3g Promix) is very lush but lacks the size of B - this is not due to the smaller pot size, as I still haven't fully moistened the entre pot to runoff as of yet. The DWC plant (D) is obviously leading the pack in terms of size, but it's stem rub is lacking...very piney whereas the syn-organic plant (B) is piney/funky - whether or not this is due to phenotype or grow method is still tbd. SCRoG net will be going in within the next few days and will be present for next week's update. Plants will be cloned within the next two weeks. Brix testing will begin within the next two weeks. Soil pH testing will begin this week as it should have established itself by now...any test results will be included in weekly updates. Most recent solution for DWC (D) is 1310/5.7, A was 140/6.5, B was 750/6.3, C was 450/6.3. The plants are at the point where they are about to absolutely explode after the next feeding/watering as the roots have dug in and they have almost dried back. MH Light is 275 PPFD avg @ 18/6 - 17.8 DLI - VPD bouncing around between 0.9-1.3...a little higher than I would like but still within an acceptable transpiration zone.
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Week 4. Vegetation
2y ago
1/5
45.72 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6.3
No Smell
745 PPM
60 %
25 °C
22 °C
58.42 cm
Nutrients 9
epsom salt 0.169 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Grow Part A 2.113 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Grow Part B 2.113 mll
bud_potter Everything is looking fantastic finishing up week 4 veg. All plants are beautifully lush, including the fully organic plant (A) which was a little finicky in the beginning. The DWC plant (D) is very obviously the largest plant and has been topped and LST'd multiple times in an attempt to flatten it out...I actually broke a main stem on it while putting an LST clip in and am now rooting it for a non-planned clone...it was just too big and pretty of a branch to throw in the trash. Hoping it will root soon enough to be able to be flowered. These plants want to grow lanky, so bushing them out has been some work but no real problem. The scrog net went in a few days ago and the two 5gal plants (A & B) are already about where they need to be size-wise considering leaving room for stretch going into flower...but, the 3gal plant (C) still has a little more net to fill before she is ready...I'd say no more than another week and a half. Soil pH test (digital meter) for the plants were all within an acceptable range this week from 5.6-6.2. Runoff has been pretty consistent as well with the runoff ppm beginning to level out with the input solution for the plants getting synthetic nutrients. The organic plant is coming out around 6.7 which is a little higher than I prefer so the water will be lowered to 6.1 for the next few waterings. Switched to Sensi Grow from MGB this past week and so far, so good...pretty sure it's the same product with a different NPK ratio, but the ratio looks better for veg to me. Should be flipping to flower within the next two weeks max, most likely sooner. If I wait much longer, I will have bigger plants than I can handle with a 4x4 tent. VPD still around 1.2-1.5 and DLI around 18 with PPFD at 350 in the center and 250 in the corners. Clones will be taken next week to be used to create feminized seeds and collect pollen. I realize feminized plants aren't normally used for breeding outside of reversing, but I like to store pollen for future projects anyway.
Update: DWC plant (D) has now exhibited abnormal growth, splitting off into two new heads from one node, essentially topping itself. D has now been eliminated from the breeding run, leaving A, B, and C. D will still still be grown out for it's flower, but will not be bred.
bud_potter Flipped to 12/12 yesterday (3/4) but will not consider the first day of flower until the plants begin to stretch and cluster...this is how it is done outdoors in nature, so it's how I've always done it as well...makes more sense than just saying the first day of flower is the flip day. This will, however, be the final week of veg. Ushio 600w HPS installed and is running 700 PPFD in the middle and 550 PPFD in the far corners at 23 inches above the top of the canopy. Plant A (5gal fully organic) is growing well but is (once again) showing a slight magnesium deficiency, so Epsom will be doubled for the next watering. Plant B (5gal syn-organic) is by far my favorite so far...larger than the other potted plants (obviously not larger than the DWC plant), but also a fantastic stem rub. Plant C is doing great but is growing much smaller than the two 5gal plants, disproving the theory that smaller pots and more feedings will grow as large or larger plants than plants potted in larger pots. Plant D (3gal DWC) is without doubt the largest plant...its root system is beautiful and massive with no rot to speak of, and it has at least 25 tops. It is worth noting that the stem rub of the DWC plants smells exactly like a pine tree, whereas the others have more funk, with the fully organic and syn-organic leading the way. Clones were taken on 3/2 and are doing wonderfully...the clone that was mentioned in the week 4 veg update has now rooted but unfortunately not in time to flower, so I will have to figure out what to do with her. Overall, no complaints, and things are coming together nicely. The flower hasn't been tested yet but if I had to guess at this point Plant B clone will be my S1 mother. Sensi Bloom has replaced Sensi Grow as the base, and PK13/14 has begun at 10% of the base strength used...I will detail my flowering nutrition regimen next week. Solution PPM's range anywhere from 500-1260 depending on the plant/grow method. Heavy defoliation has begun...I've already pulled half a small trash can of leaves over the past week trying to keep bud sites open. Will be contacting the lab to set up a THC/Terpene test for all plants prior the end of week 3. VPD bouncing around between 1.1-1.4.
bud_potter Wrapping up week 1 of flower and things are still looking great. The tent is an absolute jungle right now, I'm doing my very best to wait until week 3 to defoliate after the buds have set but it's testing my patience with all the excess foliage. Plant A (5g fully organic) is showing the slightest bit of calcium def on some of the lower foliage, so as much as I hate to do it (I wanted to grow this plant with no nitrates) I am going to have to dose her with some CaMg on the next feeding. She really is looking nice but I don't want to see the calcium def move any further. Plant B (5g syn-organic) is still the largest and healthiest of the soil/soilless plants by far...lush and a really funky stem rub. Plant C (3g fully synthetic soilless) is growing beautifully but is just a smaller plant with a litlle less stem rub than A and B. Plant D (3g DWC) is annoyingly huge. The pictures don't do it justice...we are only at the beginning of week 2 flower, this plant is going to be a lunker. Not much stem rub for this one though, which is a bummer. VPD is bouncing around between 1.1-1.4 and PPFD is 800 in the middle and 550 in the corners...I'm trying to wait until the buds set and the plants stop stretching before I raise the light, but we'll see how it goes. I've never grown this strain before and it's super aggressive and stretchy. PPM for the hydro plant is 1360 with the others ranging between 200-860. Clones have all rooted nicely and will be kept in a very slow state of vegetation until the winner of this run has been picked (I'm fully expecting B at the moment), then I will reverse pollinate to S1's and collect some pollen for the bank. As promised last week, here is my flowering feeding schedule (adjust as necessary):
Everything listed is in addition to base nutrient as well as CaMg and Epsom salt
Wk1F - add Canna pK13/14 @10% base strength
Wk2F - add Carboload @ 4ml/g
Wk3F - add Dyna Gro Mag Pro @ 5% base strength - add Bud Candy @ 5ml/g - cut Epsom salt strength by 20%
Wk4F - up Canna pK13/14 to 15% base strength
Wk5F - up Dyna Gro Mag Pro to 7.5% base strength
Wk6F - no changes
Wk7F+ - add ONLY Lotus Carbo Flush at 0.5-0.75 tsp/g depending on size of plant
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7
Week 7. Flowering
2y ago
1/6
91.44 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.3
Normal
850 PPM
50 %
23 °C
22 °C
50.8 cm
Nutrients 12
epsom salt 0.169 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 2.906 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 2.906 mll
bud_potter Ending week 2 flower feeling great about this run...this is as lush as I've ever seen plants grow...not a burnt tip to speak of. For those that haven't read all my entries, this run is a growing method/media/nutrition test in search of the best combination of yield and quality, and so far, the results are very interesting. The fully organic plant (A) is much smaller than the plants receiving nutrients, but the nodes are stacking up nicely on it, and the stem rub is phenomenal, so we'll see what the final numbers are after lab results. So far, I'm in love with the syn-organic plant (B) - it's a little less stretchy than the fully synthetic plants but has the stem rub of the organic plant (much funkier than the fully synthetics). The lab tests after harvest and the smoke test will be the proof in the pudding, but if I didn't have access to lab testing, I would select the syn-organic plant (B) for my breeding project no questions asked. We'll see. Anyhow, VPD has been steady between 1.1-1.4 and the HPS light is running 900 in the middle and 550 (ish) in the far corners. As you can see by most of the pics, they are in need of a defol in a bad way. I got two of them tonight (filled half a 30gal trash bag) and will knock out a couple more tomorrow and the last one Tuesday. It was very hard to wait until week 3 to defoliate them but I'm a student of being patient and letting the plants stop stretching and buds set before really trimming them up. Next week's update will look much better regarding the excess foliage. Added Mag Pro (5% base strength), cut Epsom Salt by 40%, added Bud Candy @ 5ml/g, and upped pk 13/14 to 15% base strength this week...things are about to start getting heavy. Vegged about a week longer than I should have so they reached a little higher than I like, but the scrog net is still supporting them well...I foresee having to tie a few of them up before it's said and done. So far, this strain has been a pleasure to grow...the resin glands give me a nice lemon tart aroma on my fingers when I rub them and the room is already giving off a heavy lemony funk, especially during lights off. I'm excited about harvesting some pollen and some S1 seeds from the winner.
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Week 8. Flowering
2y ago
1/6
91.44 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.3
Normal
850 PPM
50 %
23 °C
22 °C
38.1 cm
Nutrients 12
epsom salt 0.169 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 2.906 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 2.906 mll
bud_potter Everything is looking fantastic heading into week 4...this strain is performing better than I expected, and the sweet lemon tart aroma is fantastic. The fully organic plant (A) looks like a full-blown dwarf compared to the plants that have received synthetic nutrition, but we'll see what the lab results say. Tests were sent off for cannabinoid profile on Friday, 3/24 and according to the lab I should have those back within a week so hopefully by the next update we'll have some hard data. Plant B (5gal syn-organic) is still leading the way in terms of structure and aroma...the full-synthetic DWC plant will take the win in the yield category no doubt. The fully organic plant looks so much different it seems it's not even the same strain, but it certainly is. VPD is still hovering around 1.1-1.4 and I have the light raised to 15" which puts out about 850 PPFD in the center and 600 in the corners. Buds starting to swell and resin beginning to pour out which is translating to a very strong, almost offensive odor in the grow area (I love it). Mag pro will be upped to 7.5% base strength this week and Carbo Load will be upped to 5ml/g. My clones are all very healthy and two of them are patiently waiting to be bred into S1 seeds to keep this strain on ice indefinitely. I already have the next runs' strain picked out which will be crossed with this one as well.
bud_potter Today was the first day of week 5 and things are still going great...all plants lush and beautiful, and now I can say aromatic. Very aromatic. This strain is starting to take on a strong sour apple smell when the resin is worked between the fingers and is super frosty. My pics don't do the resin glands justice with the 2700k HPS light but next week I will try to do better and get some pics a few mins before lights on so you guys can get a better look at the frost. Plant A (5gal full-organic) is still a dwarf when compared to her sisters, but her buds are stacking nicely so the yield will be decent - I'm guessing 4oz cured - but the quality is what is on the chopping block with this grow. Between the fully synthetic plants, the fully organic plant, the syn-organic plant, and the lab results, I will put the bro science argument concerning the better growing method to sleep in my conscience. The lab samples were taken on 3/24 and I still haven't got the results back...but I should have them by the next update. Plant D (3gal DWC) is the largest plant by far and is drinking slightly over half a gallon of 1300ppm (Hannah) solution per day - and plant B (5gal syn-organic) is right in the middle. Plant C (3gal full synthetic) is right between A and B. VPD has been and continues to be great for this run bouncing around between 1.1-1.3 with leaf surface temps averaging 79 degrees lights on and 71 degrees off. PPFD 900 center and 550 corners. The clones aren't babies anymore and are turning into bushes...my prop tent is stuffed. Looking forward to making the call on which plant will be selected for S1 seeds but my money is still on B. Mag Pro was upped to 7.5% base strength for week 5 - this will be the last change until flush begins.
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Week 10. Flowering
2y ago
1/6
91.44 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.1
Strong
900 PPM
50 %
23 °C
22 °C
38.1 cm
Nutrients 4
Dyna-Gro Zyme 1.321 mll
Hydroguard 0.528 mll
Recharge 0.326 mll
bud_potter Everything is good and getting better by the day. Heavy. Stinky. Sticky. Had to do over an hour's worth of tying up donky dongs yesterday...strait up leaners! This is an absolute winner by Oregon CBD looking forward to some projects with her....I have a chocolate-y sage-y strain that I am dying to work her into asap. Definitely a sour-y, apple-y pungent aroma with the sour being dominant. Flush has begun...this is a 7 weeker so the last 1.5-2 weeks will be the solution detailed above topping out around 190 ppm with 100ppm h2O. On cruise control and waiting for the big day. Take care!
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Week 11. Flowering
2y ago
1/4
91.44 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.1
Strong
900 PPM
50 %
23 °C
22 °C
38.1 cm
Nutrients 4
Dyna-Gro Zyme 1.321 mll
Hydroguard 0.528 mll
Recharge 0.326 mll
bud_potter Not much to say this week guys tbh...things are great. This has been a flawless run. My apologies for the pics with the HPS on...I've set my alarm to take pics before it came on for 2 days now and forgot both times lol. Will be harvesting this upcoming weekend, so I guarantee some better pics. Thanks for checking me out. New seeds otw, clones happy, ready to make moves. See y'all soon...