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Very impressed thus far as a first time FloraNova user. 1 part for Veg, 1 part for Bloom. Doesn’t get any easier than this on many levels. These two nutrient blends are like tar in a bottle. A few weights, marbles, etc. tossed in the bottles is good insurance things are mixed well. Small inconvenience giving its simplicity and organic components. Anyone familiar with FloraNova?
When do you heavy defoliate your Autoflower? She's filled my grow box with some stretch yet, and wondering if I can hack some of the branches/leaves that will never see light. If so, what is your sweet spot in a 12 week strain?
I have pruned, defoliated and super cropped autos, the only time you really want to stop manipulating is during the bulk phase of the buds. So long as your plant is healthy. Prune away
Any chance of super cropping a thriving auto on day 42? She hasn’t flinched at training yet; and got hacked on. I’m running out of vertical space with some developing runners. She’s going to stretch a bit yet, and currently 12” from light with 650 PPFD. Bend, or not to bend?
I wouldn't bend yet... I think you've got enough room left... most of my grows, when I only had a total of 60" in a tent, got to within a couple of inches from the lights. That being said, it will depend a lot on your lights, their strength and what the plant is telling you. I accidentally super-cropped in the late stages of flowering (my Tangerine Dream) and it didn't affect the plant... but it's not something I would intentionally do. But when push comes to shove, and you MUST, try it with only one stem and she how she reacts.. if there's no reaction, go ahead but don't do all of the stems at once.... that WOULD be too much stress.
Good luck!
Last week looked great! Looking forward to bide development this week.
She’s about to hit the light. Stretch is still in effect. Tomorrow will gently bend two with hooked magnets. 4 other branches may need same.
The start of the week provided a stop to vertical growth; which was needed. At 30” she sits 4 inches from the light which isn’t gonna help much from several angles. Zero room to stretch branches anymore and so we can chalk this up to the oblivious as a 4 node grow inside 3 square feet. I took a dozen or so smaller branches last week and 4 more today. She is still bushed too much for decent light penetration.
Almost end of the week and I have been taking a lot of smaller branches that are packed inside this. Either way I am losing something so in this situation I’ll gamble the stress game in week 8.
There’s very little peripheral light penetration as she is wall to wall solid inside this box, and now only 4” to the light. Being the first day of week 8, how far would you defoliate this plant?
Bruh.. his canopy is even as hell.. non of that addresses the question.
I’d leave as is. Hope she doesn’t stretch much more. If you having dimming capabilities - those may be necessary. But I’d let it get close as possible until you see any actual light burn (which is so commonly misdiagnosed, at least on this page)
You’ve done everything perfect frankly.. just not left yourself the ability to adjust if stretch is more than expected.
I can’t wait til you run something besides ILGM autos. If autos are your thing - I’m gonna send you some ethos ones I get in my next order.
Against protocol I have hacked on this plant in Week 8. Way branchy! I got into pruning a dozen long scraggly lower runners. I could take out another 12+ wimpy branches easy and open it up good bit for light/air - and then leave it alone? Much anticipated waste, so gamble?
You could take out some of the scraggly lower runners, it will do more good than harm! Come trimming time you will thank yourself! Just don't go crazy, only take away the flimsy ones. I don't think the canopy is too dense at the moment.
She is definitely hitting her milestones at least a week later than other autos I have grown. Her training was very low stress with any defol. She stands at 34” tall - for a compact variety? She a beast and grown in open space she would be a complete slob! I’m predicting a large amount of waste as light penetration below the top 6” is non existent.
Well, she is like a sardine can and I’m not liking it. She’s starting to burn and I’m not lower light intensity with shit canopy penetration. Shes 3-4 weeks out, hopefully she doesn’t ignite before then:|
Probably not much to report until end of week. It’s the same 2 pics until she gets pulled from her crypt. If I can get her at current light intensity for another week or more with cooking off all the goods. Drop light intensity based on crispness?I think this may be the best approach?
By the end of the week she bulked up a good bit, but would have liked to see more. Limited light exposures with vegetative density. I dropped the brightness to 50% earlier in the week and left the lights on 24/7 to compensate for DLI loss.
Been out of town for the last six days and won’t be back for another two. 7 gallon bucket seems to be empty already? Water level will not increase but may be a problem with pump as the daily use of water would be higher this week than prior. Gonna be a dry reservoir by the time I get back.
I was able to fill reservoir this morning somehow. I think the hose may have sunk to the bottom again? No idea until I get back home later today. Will note and rectify for next grow.
She seems to be finishing as there has been a significant decrease in water intake - from a gallon a day to .30 in the last 10 days.
Only because there was an over abundance of nutrients, I will flush until some yellow and chop on this Sunday. Already starting to yellow after 4 days of flush. Mostly cloudy, with amber here and there as of day 89.
I have a single white tip in the whole canopy, and most of the tips are touching the light so it doesn’t look like bleaching? Is it possible it’s all trichomes?
That definitely look like white tips. It's a great sign so congrats. In this part of the bud, an enhanced amount of THC is held. Keep up the good work and enjoy the yield, Wedding Cake is an amazing strain.
Should I get every bud site opened or will a strong upper canopy pump some plump where light is less intense further down? In other words, where’s the sweet spot w/ my defol level? I have upper sites open, but thinking another defol my help race some other shoots to the top?
well it ate my answer that was throrough.. not re writing it all.
most likely not. the gain you achieve beliw will be less than what you lose up top for several reasons. one is inverse square law applies to the concentration of light as you get furhter away from the source. also, aprical dominance matters. the plant simply gives more to the buds higher up and nothing can change that.
ATP is produced by photosynthesis. 95% of that is in the leaves, 5% is any other green surface (made up numbers but the generalized idea is right.. VAST majority is in leaves.. higher concentration of chlorophyl that can be easily measured as well as proper depth to receive light in top layer of leaves -- this is why light hitting the bottom of a leaf is significantly attenuated compared to the top.. much deeper relative to surface from bottom of leaf. incontrevertible evidence as to why it would be difficult to achieve a net-gain by removing a leaf up top to provide ight down below...
And, nothign to do with light hitting the buds... light hitting the leaves will cause an improvement to the buds nearby. as again, not much ATP produced from buds.
ATP powers cellular growth. any endothermic reaction will require it ("uphill" reactions). ATP is the end result of photosynthesis. it is mobile, but will be used locally more so than trucked around the plant. receiving slightly more light on a lower leaf compared to the full force of light hitting a leaf near the top is a net negative in most contexts. just math... not feelings... people like to believe the things they do have a positive impact whehther they measured it or not.. .whether they had a suitable sample size to be confident about what they observed or not.
Incredible amount of waste given my horrid living conditions. 2-3 node grow next time, max. Nice end product appearance wise, generous yield of decent bud. Likely a 2oz per square ft.
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