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Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Main-Lining
weeks Technique
Defoliation
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Soil
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
5.08 cm
18 hrs
29 °C
No Smell
60 %
26 °C
0 L
45.72 cm
Welcome to my Seedsman grow. This is my first real attempt at growing from purchased seeds. I didn't know too much about genetics when I bought these but hopeful they turn out dope. The idea was to have the tent filled with drastically different colored buds 😅I like symmetry D1 - 9.13 - 3 fem White Widow Fast and 3 fem Black Sugar (Soaked/toweled) were dropped in to solo cups with bottom 1/3 NLS super soil and top 2/3 Fox Farms. D4 - 9.16 - We got sprouts 100% D6 - 9.18 - Third set of leaves making their move. Seedling station light is Phlizon 600W LED. I have it at 18in with full spectrum on. D7 - 9.19 - Growin
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
10.16 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
No Smell
60 %
24 °C
19 L
0 L
45.72 cm
D9 - 9.21 - Just growing growing growing. All of them have nice velvety roots lining the bottom of the cups 💪😬 D10 - 9.22 - Super impressed by the growth and color of these ladies D13 - 9.25 - Transplanted into my 5 Gallon fabric pots with 1/3 Nature's Living Soil Super soil mix on bottom and fox farms on top ------------ Right now these are under 250w (True watts) of LED. One of the lights is a "600w" Phlizon full spectrum, the other is a "600w" YGrow for a mixture of 2-peak blurple and 3500k, respectively D14 - 9.26 - Loving their new pots and tent space! 👽👍
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Fullmeltalchemist
Fullmeltalchemiststarted grow question 6 years ago
How long does it usually take to get to node 5-6 for different plants? I intend to main-line and am just curious your experiences.
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Techniques. Defoliation
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Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @NullHypothesis! With good genetics I'd say 3 weeks, but every strain + environment + grower's ability is different! Mainlining is a rewarding approach, you'll have a beautiful and heavy canopy! Happy growing 👊
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
No Smell
50 %
24 °C
19 L
0 L
45.72 cm
D15 - 9.27 - Cruising along, just watering them once a day D16 - 9.28 - I planted carrots and transplanted the rest of the seedlings. They are all in the same space. That one LA Sunset never really started to thrive, but I'll keep it for now. D18 - 9.30 - I topped my first plant for mainlining. I picked the strongest FWW with the most growth tip at the 3rd node and just went for it. She may be a little young, so I left her fan leaves for support. I've decided to do 3 groups of two for this grow, in an attempt to experience how these different strains respond to different techniques - Pair 1 will be mainlined with 8 mains, Pair 2 will be mainlined with 4 mains and Par 3 will not be mainlined but traditionally topped to 4 mains. D19 - 10.1 - Topped the first Black Sugar for mainlining. Her growth tips are really nice looking. D20 - 10.2 - Have them all topped 👌
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Week 4. Vegetation
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
33 °C
No Smell
50 %
28 °C
19 L
1 L
45.72 cm
D22 - 10.4 - All the plants recovered well from topping and I'm just letting them put out new grow for the next weekish. We might come across some opportunity to LST this week 😀👍 D26 - 10.8 - I've been learning a lot. At this point, even though I snapped a branch 😤😪😂 I'm super happy. I managed to save the snapped branch with duck tape. It lost a fan leaf but I think she'll be ready to train again in a wee. All my other training is going well. I've figured out how I like to hook my lst anchors etc. Whole lot of fun watching them adapt and grow. D28 - 10.10 - Heck, we have had a massive heat wave! 😤😫😣 I've been managing temps as best I can, but it has crept up to 33C near the soil the past couple days. I'm sad I already stored my window A/C but trying to keep the vibes good 🙏👍
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Week 5. Vegetation
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
33 °C
No Smell
50 %
28 °C
19 L
1 L
45.72 cm
D30 - 10.12 - I'm scared spitless right now. I found what looks to be broad/russet mite contam on some nearby plants. These don't seem to be affected but I'm treating them along with the others for to make sure. I've treated with insecticidal soap and neem oil the past two days right before lights out. I'm paranoid and I think I'm seeing some spindly looking growth coming in on some of these. HELP! Plan: treat with some heavy duty stuff to be procured today. Predatory mites and lady bugs on their way. Will release them as soon as they arrive. I want to use some diatomaceous earth, but I'm afraid that will counter my predatory mites and lady bugs?? Help! Taking any and all advice on getting this shit under control!! D33 - 10.15 - The last Treatment was given on Friday, so this is three days later and they all look like like shit. 10.15 - They may not recover from this one? All my plants look about like this right now, with all the new growth shriveled and some discoloration showing up on the fans. Plants that did not seem affected before treatment are now showing this. Let me know what you think. My treatment for 3 days in a row may have been far too harsh? Will they recover... How could they? I'd have to remove all of this bad growth... This is devastating :(
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Week 6. Vegetation
6 years ago
30.48 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
No Smell
55 %
22 °C
19 L
1 L
45.72 cm
10.23 - They have survived. New growth is looking ok. Gonna be some funny shaped plants but I'm happy they are alive.
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Week 7. Vegetation
6 years ago
30.48 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
No Smell
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
d43 - 9.26 - Recovering quite nicely. Was able do just about all the training and trimming I want to before I switch to flower around the end of week 8. My Fast White Widows are definitely more ground hugging, while the Black Sugars are reachers, but still manageable. They have all been trained to best fit the recovery of each individual plant, so my canopy definitely isn't going to be even 😅Nonetheless, grateful they have been resilient little buggers and happy for the chance to take them flower, regardless of whether I'll have the picture perfect tent. 🙏 D47 - 9.30 - I lied. I had to train a little more. One BS cola was really outgrowing the rest, and the opposite side of plant had taken for damage from bug treatment two weeks ago so i HST'd it back and spread the other. Still planning to flower them in 7-14 days!
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Week 8. Vegetation
6 years ago
40.64 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
No Smell
55 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 3
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Neptune's Harvest Fish 3 mll
D50 - 11.2 - Everything is going great! They are drinking a lot more as expected. Decided we continue vegging for another week or two. **Very curious if super soil growers ever come across any deficiencies? You can see a couple lower fan leaves I removed today. I'm sure leaf loss to some extent is natural, but I read that the lower leaves are your indicators, so I wanted to run these by yall to see if you suspect and deficiencies cropping up.** Seriously, I appreciate everyone hear so much! Thanks for checking out my grow! 👽🙏 D52 - 11.4 - They loved the foliar spray I made, treated right at lights out yesterday. Heck watering these, even with my gravity fed tube is such a pain haha. I don't have good access except from the front, due to this giant black box being crammed into my bedroom, so I have to spray across the tent kinda in plank straddling plants using pressure from my thumb and forefinger and HECK! Everything will be easier when 4 of them get sploit off into the 3x3 but I already got my eye on some blumats for next grow haha Anyway, I've never found a hobby so enriching. I look in my tents and see these babies praying and it's just the most content I've ever felt. I've loved plants since I was a kid and always had had bonsai trees, bamboo and vines in my bedroom window. I felt the pull to grow a decade ago but prohibition in my state and some very unsympathetic ‘rents made that impossible. My dad actually burned my hps lights and DIY aeroponics box in a bon fire before they every got to be used. So this is a dream I’ve been patiently waiting to become a reality. As much as I love cannabis and benefit from its medicinal use, I’m finding the grow grounding and therapeutic. I feel like I’m getting to express a part of myself I haven’t before and it’s a joy.
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Fullmeltalchemist
Fullmeltalchemiststarted grow question 6 years ago
Super soil growers ever come across any deficiencies? See a couple lower fan leaves I removed today. I'm sure leaf loss to some extent is natural, but I read that the lower leaves are your indicators, so I wanted to run these by yall to see if you suspect and deficiencies
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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mad_scientistanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hello @NullHypothesis ! Yes you can experience deficiencies from super soils but having a deficiency doesn't necessarily means that your soil doesn't have the nutrients. Deficiencies can also come from over/under water and other reasons. What recipe of super soil you use? If you made your own you might didn't use enough amendments. Also did you let your soil to compost before you use it? If you didn't then the nutrients in your soil might not be available for the plants yet unless you used fast absorption amendments like blood meal, guano's and stuff like that . I wouldn't advise you to use any PK since the philosophy behind using super soil is to avoid bottled nutrients. First check your watering cycles and second use a basic compost tea. It will give to the soil large populations of beneficial bacteria that will brake down the organic matter very fast. Happy growing ! 👍
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Week 9. Flowering
6 years ago
45.72 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Weak
55 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 5
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Neptune's Harvest Fish 3 mll
D56/F2 - 11.8 - So these ladies got a little more room to spread out this week and were flipped to 12/12 on 11.6. I’ve amended them with a good mulch and new product called Nature’s Living Soil that I talked a little more about on my recent update to the 9lb hammer journal. Hopefully the deficiencies that have poked their head up are behind us for the rest of the grow. ** One of my Black Sugar pics is marked with ** Let me know what you think of the very slight yellowing around the edges of the leaves. Please n spanks! ** D58/F4 - 11.10 - Whole crop underwent defoliation yesterday, and the stretch is coming on strong right now. Some grew as much as 2-3 inches last night! D62/F8 - 11.14 - The bounce back from defoliation has been tremendous and the continue to stretch as the very first signs of prebuds start to show. Was smacked in the face with some dank floral aromas when I opened the tent tdoay 😎
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Week 10. Flowering
6 years ago
66.04 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Weak
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
D64/F12 - 11.18 - Been a really incredible week for these ladies. All of them are thriving with lovely prebuds <3 D67/F15 - 11.21 - Lovely progress. Even the least beautiful plant in the garden is reaching above the peony rings :) D70/F18 - 11.24 - Pretty aggressive defoliation on these ladies today. They responded great last round, so I expect to see the start to put a lot of weight on soon. The black sugars (second column of three from the left) we way more leafy than the fast white widows
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Week 11. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Weak
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
D71/F19 - 11.25 - Got them all defoliated. Everything is looking open, lots of light for the flowers, lots of room to grow and good airflow. I've got a couple co2 bags hanging in there too now. D75/F24 - 11.29 - Responded well to defoliation. Getting chunky! <3
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Week 12. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Weak
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
D80/F29 - 12.4 - All is well except for 1 Black Sugar plant that is showing what I believe is calcium deficiency. Hmm, it’s really only on the older leaves, none of the new growth is affected and the buds are still developing on pace. So I will give some compost tea, along with all the others. Let me know if you have any other ideas please! D83/F32 - 12.7 - Cruizin. treated with some top dress super soil concentrate. Beside the one deficient plant, the others are all great ❄️ ❄️ ❄️ ❄️ ❄️ ❄️
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Fullmeltalchemist
Fullmeltalchemiststarted grow question 6 years ago
Am I correct in diagnosing this as Calcium deficiency in the Black Sugar? I gave a basic compost tea yesterday. What else can I do to ensure she makes it through harvest?
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Leaves. Color - Mottling
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Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hi @NullHypothesis! You are right, it looks like a Calcium deficiency. The weird thing is that this deficiency only shows up onto new leaves, whereas you seem to be having issues with old leaves. Now the big question is: what could have led to this situation? Have you been giving some extra cal+mag during the growth? Your pH looks fine, are you using RO water? Could it be a potassium abuse, making the rootzone unable to handle calcium intakes anymore? You can add some cal-mag or epsom-salt into your next feedings, it's probably a bit late because the deficiency has been there for a while, but it worth a try, Happy growing 👊
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Week 13. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Normal
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
D86/F35 - 12.10 - Think we have the Ca+ deficiency under control. Pulled off a few damaged leaves to maximize light to nodes. Flowers are looking healthy everywhere I think!
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Week 16. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Strong
60 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
12.29 - F54 - Gonna round out the last week here. Seeing a bit of cloudy trichs, waiting for the amber to come through.
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Week 18. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Strong
50 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
12.5 - F60 - Alriiight, rounding the corner! Two of the Black Sugars are really looking really close. Maybe another two dark cycles before the big dark. Likewise for the White Widows. Overall, 3/3 of my white widows are very healthy, though a little smaller in stature/structure that the black sugars. But 2/3 of the black sugars have had signs of deficiency, indicating a bit less stability, since the other plants in same soil didn't really complain at all. Soooo many Trichomes though, and the buds are so heavy they are falling all over each other. Gonna be a busy couple weeks with this and my other diaries! 12.7 - F62 - Trichs on this plant are cloudy and turning. Dooope. I may cut it in a few days and use it for bubble hash 😍
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Week 19. Flowering
6 years ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.2
Strong
50 %
18 °C
22 °C
19 L
1 L
91.44 cm
Nutrients 4
Nature's Living Soil Super Soil Concentrate 30 mll
PHd H20 70 mll
Organic Maine Enriched Mulch 8 mll
F63 - 1.8 - These two Black Sugars won't stop throwing calyx and pistils! Trichs are clear. The White Widows are doing fine, also clear trichs at the moment.
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Week 19. Harvest
6 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Black Sugar - Seedsman
Spent 113 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
7/10
Rated
53.33 g
Bud dry weight per plant
3
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