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DFWmd DFWmd
7 months ago
Wednesday, Sept 27 (Day 29) - Run-off EC still high by ~0.3-0.5, after increasing duration of fertigation from 20 to 25 seconds. Tomorrow morning, I'll increase it to 30 seconds. Plant 2 - This is the manifold (Nebula Haze) technique. It looks good but is behind growth-wise, compared to plant 3. (4 inches tall vs 7.5 inches tall.) First topping was when 5 nodes grown, after the 3rd node. Each of those are now working on their second nodes from that topping. After each side has 4 nodes, I'll top after the 3rd node and trim the second node, keeping the 1st node. Colas should then develop from the topping after the 3rd node and from the growth tips on the 1st node. Training those two halves should allow four colas to establish on each, 8 total. Plant 3 - This is the mainline (Nugbuckets) technique. First topping was when 5 nodes grown, after the 3rd node. Each of those sides have decently-established 2nd nodes and are just getting hints of 3rd nodes. Once past the 3rd node, I'll top each half to that and then when the two on each half get past their 1st node then I'll top again. That should get to 8 colas via main stem split to two and each of those split then each of those split. 2^3 = 8 total. I've kept most lower fan leaves but have trimmed the growth tips. Lighting still at 50% power. ----- Thursday, Sept 28 (Day 30) - I'd taken off plant ties to be more conservative with training but tonight I went back at it. Unfortunately, I squeezed too hard on Plant 3 and tore the stem skin (in a twisty-way, not at the junction) when I supercropped. I wrapped with horticultural tape and hopefully it'll be okay... πŸ˜• At ~1800, I refilled the 5-gallon bucket reservoir from the 20-gallon tote supply and added tap water. EC went from ~2.5 to ~2.0. pH'd to 5.8. I checked run-off and much improved with results only +0.1 to +0.2. 😁 ----- Friday, Sept 29 (Day 31) - Plant 2 is working on 3rd node. The injured part of Plant 3 seems to be recovering with little problem. Just getting past the 3rd node. ----- Saturday, Sept 30 (Day 32) - I'll probably top Plant 2 tomorrow, above the 3rd node, which is just finishing up today. I topped Plant 3 above the 3rd node. I'll trim each plant appropriately but want to double-check before actually cutting. From what I've learned via websites and videos: Plant 2 (Nebula Haze-style) - Trim each split from the first topping above their 3rd nodes then cut growth tips (and fan leaves) from the 2nd node on each branch. Ensure all growth nodes besides the 3rd and 1st nodes on each branch are trimmed. Maybe trim most of the fan leaves, or at least ones that are shaded by leaves above? Plant 3 (Nugbuckets-style) - Trim all growth tips other than from that 3rd node which I just topped to. Each of those, branched off the first topping, should grow into main stems, two on each side. After the first node on each of those four is well-established, I'm to top for the last time. Each of those four should grow two main stems, from which the eight colas will develop. Same thing regarding fan leaves: at least the ones shaded if not all the ones below the topping? Filled the 5-gallon reservoir with the rest of the 20 gallons of nutrient solution I'd made last week in the big tote, adjusted so EC was 3.024 and pH'd to 6.0. Cleaning out the big tote today and will clean/soak the 5-gallon bucket and pump and heater etc when it empties, presumably tomorrow morning. ----- Sunday, Oct 1 (Day 33) - I trimmed just about all foliage below the latest toppings. I then supercropped and bent branches to train canopy. I'm worried I was inadvertently too rough on them... If the skin of the stem split I taped with horticultural tape. (Clearly, I need to be training before the branches get too thick. Plant 2, being manifolded (Nebula Haze-style), keeping nodes 1 and 3 after topping above the 3rd node, I used LST clips. Plant 3, being mainlined (Nugbuckets-style), I used soft plant ties. I'd topped after the 3rd node on each side and there should be four main stems developing. I'll top each of those after their 1st nodes are well-established. I'm making up a new big batch of nutrient solution in the 32-gallon tote. I'd gotten a second tote and nested the first one in it to strengthen the walls. (The sides had started bowing out after filling with 24 gallons of water.) Today, I'm making 24 gallons instead of 20: 1. 24 gallons tap water (EC 0.464) 2. 60 mL Armor Si (then wait at least an hour) 3. 121 grams Jack's Nutrients 15-5-20 and 24 grams Epsom salt 4. 6 teaspoons humic acid 5. 3/4 teaspoon Yucca ..... Check and adjust EC to goal of 2.1 + tap = 2.564. Actual result: _2.392_ ..... Adjust pH to 5.8-6.2. Actual result: _5.9_ 6. 30 mL RapidStart 7. 60 mL H2O2 ----- Monday, Oct 2 (Day 34) - I made the batch this morning, after cleaning the pumps and reservoir containers with H2O2. Details above. Plants are recovering from yesterday's topping and trimming and training. ----- Tuesday, Oct 3 (Day 35) - Pretty much the same as the day before. Refilled 5-gallon reservoir from the big tote and pH was 6.1; I left as-is. ----- END OF 5TH WEEK FROM SEED
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Grow Questions
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 7 months ago
Finishing up the topping portion of mainlining. P2 to be Nebula-Haze style and P3 to be Nugbuckets style. I'll be trimming growth tips other than from the 8 cola sites on each. Still keep un-shaded fan leaves below those levels? A lot online shows all lower fan leaves trimmed
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thedoe
thedoeanswered grow question 7 months ago
if the 8 growth shoots are ready to ride solo, you could remove the leaves if you cant tuck them. by that I mean they are developed and are already working on their 2nd node or so, if theyre too small it makes no sense. check out my grow; I had the same idea for 8 tops! same guide mine is probably not as bushy but youll get the idea. especially if youre not limited on time then it will recover regardless. just faster if they are ready to grow without need of those big fanleaves.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
I'm unsure about trimming/defoliation at this point: What's the goal for just before switching to 12/12? I've read to veg until your height is 1/2 to 1/3 the final height supported by the setup. I seem to have plenty of room still. How much do I trim under the canopy?
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mcflow
mcflowanswered grow question 6 months ago
if you're just before the switch to the flowering stage (12/12), focus on the following specifics: Undercanopy Trimming: Trim the lower branches and leaves that won't receive much light in the flowering stage. This directs energy to the top canopy. Remove Large Fan Leaves: Take out any large fan leaves that are shading potential bud sites in the lower and inner parts of the plant. Maintain Airflow: Ensure good airflow by removing excess foliage in the undercanopy. This helps prevent humidity-related issues. Avoid Over-Pruning: Be cautious not to over-prune, as you still want the plant to have enough foliage for photosynthesis and energy production. Top Canopy Focus: Concentrate on opening up the top canopy to allow light penetration and airflow for the main bud sites. Remember, the idea is to strike a balance between removing excess foliage and maintaining enough leaves for the plant's overall health. Keep an eye on how the plant responds and adjust accordingly.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
It's been 15 days since flipping from veg to 12/12. Am I done training to keep the canopy flat? The goal is basically to optimize flower development at this point, right? Tucking tall branches at this point would be counterproductive, right? (Unless too close to lights?)
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Scrubbyjimbob
Scrubbyjimbobanswered grow question 6 months ago
People tend to let their plants go a bit more during the stretch but it's largely dependent on how much headroom you have with your lights. Like you mentioned, you're still gonna want to address areas that are outpacing the rest and growing into your light's "hotzone". Maybe not tucking branches, but super cropping is handy to level out colas.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There are a few colas that are much higher than the rest. Do I supercrop those? Just squeeze the stem and flop them over to canopy height? That makes me nervous...
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 6 months ago
If you are nervous about super-cropping then just tie it down...
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
Advice seems to be to tuck fan leaves so bud sites get more light. But don't plants work by light first going to leaves which send energy to flowers? A plant with leaves in shade and bud sites in light would do WORSE than v/v, right?
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Stickyone
Stickyoneanswered grow question 6 months ago
Tucking fan leaves in cannabis cultivation is a technique used to optimize light distribution and penetration within the canopy. While it may seem counterintuitive at first, tucking or removing some fan leaves can be beneficial for several reasons: Light Distribution: By tucking or removing fan leaves that are shading bud sites, you can ensure that more light reaches the lower parts of the plant where the potential bud sites are. This can help improve the overall yield and quality of your harvest. Air Circulation: Tucking leaves can also improve airflow within the canopy, reducing the risk of mold and mildew development, as well as promoting better overall plant health. Energy Allocation: Cannabis plants do require light for photosynthesis, which takes place primarily in the leaves. However, once energy is produced through photosynthesis, it is transported to different parts of the plant, including the flowers (buds). Tucking leaves doesn't stop the photosynthesis process; it redirects the energy flow to the areas that need it most, which are the developing buds. Pruning Strategy: Tucking fan leaves is often part of a broader pruning strategy that also includes selectively removing some leaves to improve light and airflow. This can help optimize the balance between energy production in the leaves and energy allocation to the buds. In summary, tucking fan leaves can help ensure that both leaves and bud sites receive an appropriate amount of light and energy. It's about creating a balance that maximizes the overall health and yield of your cannabis plants. However, it's essential to be mindful of not overpruning or removing too many leaves, as this can stress the plant. The specific approach may also depend on the strain and individual plant's needs, so it's a good practice to monitor your plants and adjust your techniques as necessary during the different growth stages.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 6 months ago
There is still almost no smell from the flowers. Is that normal at this point? Today is 22 days into flower and the strain guide says flowering time is 9-12 weeks (63-84 days.)
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletanswered grow question 6 months ago
Don't be afraid to rub your fingers in and around buds n see if there is any smell. Also sometimes you scratch the stem slightly and you will get a hint of the profile, kinda like a scratch n sniff.
DFWmd
DFWmdstarted grow question 5 months ago
How many more weeks before harvest? ILGM website says flowering is 9-12 weeks and I'm just about done with 7 weeks. I don't have great close-up photos of trichomes but when I look at them through a loupe I don't see any amber. Pistils now majority orange.
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Ctrellis90
Ctrellis90answered grow question 5 months ago
So grower cards are just there to give you an idea of how long your plants will generally take to flower. That being said, every Pheno is different and will finish at a different time depending on certain variables. Environment, nutrients etc. I would give her another week and keep checking your trichomes until you get your plant where you want her. Don't sacrifice your smoke! 30% amber is usually a good time to harvest.
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@DFWmd, this is good the Blue Dreams strain apparently has some therapeutic qualities I hope she does the trick for you πŸ™
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@Mr_toetastic, Thanks so much! Way better than I'd hoped!
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Monster stuff man! Keep doing your thing. They look gorgeous.
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@MeesterG, I'm so excited! Thanks for the support!
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@Lonelygrass, thanks so much!
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She looks so healty, good luck buddy ☘️
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@Lemonhazelover, thanks for your support!