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Welcome to my 2nd run at white widow auto! I'm really excited about this one. I'm making less mistakes so far and it's getting easier. I really love this strain so I wanted to make more. Anyhow, put some bottled water onto a folded up napkin and stuck 2 seeds in there. I think it took 2 days until the first pic here that you can really see the tap root. Used sterilized tweezers to move her into rockwool cube. I had previously soaked rockwool in bottled water for over 24 hours, maybe 48. Anyhow, I had to keep adding water to the paper towel in between the two saucers as they kept drying up. Once the seed was in rockwool, the pics show you what happened. One thing I forgot to mention was that once she sprouted she keeps swaying toward the led (which is totally on the side of her), so I have to keep flipping her 180 degrees so she won't grow all crooked, lol. I plan to move her into a cup of happy frog and stick her under my led in a few days or so. Thanks for reading my new diary! ;)
Update: just put her into a cup with happy frog potting soil, gave water, stuck her under the 65w bulb at 6in above top.
I over watered her when I put her into the soil, but she bounced back pretty fast. I want to thank @Stick for his recommendation on only watering 15-20% of container volume. That seems to be the sweet spot! Still no nutrients yet but that will probably come this next week. I already have her 3 gallon smart pot ready to go with some happy frog. All waterings will be documented in comments in this grow diary.
Also, I did wet her down with neem oil spray and she took it just fine. Just a light mist and wet down the top of the soil. I also added some yellow sticky trap nearby. I will not let flying bugs ruin this grow.
Thanks for checking out this diary, this is my first real soil grow where I will have to add nutrients, so I will try extra hard not to cook her or underfeed her.
Well she got moved under the led and she seems to love it. I watered her last night so I'm going to transplant her tomorrow into 3 gallon smart pot. I've been giving her nothing but bottled water. She love the happy frog. Will fim her in a few days.
Update: transplanted her into her 3galllon smart pot. Gave her the first feeding of nutrients. Followed the directions on the box for technoflora. Probably gave a little too much water but with a fan and fabric pot she will dry out a little faster. Still can't fim as not enough on top to remove. I might have to skip the fim, not sure yet.
Thanks for checking out my grow!
Ok, so she looks fine to me, watered her as I'm leaving for the weekend. She got 6.6 or so ph, about .4 gallons. A little more than I would normally give, but she in a big pot now and there is a lot of soil up in there to wet down. She's doing fine, pretty excited about this one. Thanks for tuning in!
She just got her second water feed the other day, so nutrients above have not been updated yet, I will do that as soon as I feed her again. She is just as tall as my other plant now and I'm guessing she's going to get a bit bigger. She hasn't shown any issues, she is really happy I think. I think she is gonna love the next feeding as she will get a blast of nutrients. Thanks for checking out my diary.
Update 11/4: added nutes today and posted them above. .9 gallons, 6.5ph
Well this week was a big one, she grew up over 1ft. She's about 3ft taller, maybe taller. I am going yo have to raise the light a little to accommodate her. She's really happy with these nutrients and the watering schedule I have her on. Thank you again @stick for giving me the perfect formula for watering. I was so worried that I would under or over feed her but so far that hasn't happened at all. I literally have had 0 issues with her, not even a tiny yellow leaf or anything. Now the pressure is on to make sure she gets what she needs. Thanks for checking out my diary! ;)
So this week went ok. I figured out my ph pen was off so I'm using tester drops now instead.She looked a little droopy yesterday but she got some water and has perked up a bit. I think I'm going to start doing less water but more often as she's only getting feed every 4 or 5 days, which means the nutes will only be applied every 2 weeks which I think is not enough. I will apply nutrients next feeding in 3 days or so. Also, I think I will need to bend her so she's against the wall, as she is only 6 inches from lamp. Thanks for checking out my grow!
Well this week kinda flew by. Added nutrients posted in diary. I just gave her .8 gallons of ph water. She looks a little droopy cause soil was pretty dry. Other than excess of N, I think she's pretty happy. I'm worried that she is so tall, I will have to get a stick to help her with the weight. I rotated her 45 degrees to keep light all over. So far so good. No signs of flying pests in a few week so I think we are over that. I just need to get a good bamboo stick and I think everything will be ok. Thanks for viewing my diary!
Ok so I have this big fan leaf showing issues. The last 2 pictures of this week are of this leaf. The leaf is about halfway up the plant and no other leaves are showing same issue. To me it looks like N deficiency, but I have N excessive on the top of plant with dark clawing tips
Sorry but no, it is not N deficiency. If you look closely you will notice that it is interveinal yellowing (the veins are dark green and in between them the leaf is yellowing) and that's a classic magnesium deficiency. That can have 2 reason: the first and most obvious is magnesium deficiency because of lack of magnesium (not likely since you are feeding cal / mag) or due magnesium lockout due either P or K toxicity (both when given in excess lockout many seconday elements, magnesium among them). Looking at the feeding strength of your current (and past) weeks I can tell that you are feeding really strongly for soil; that your leaves are dark green, have some burnt tips and clawing (leaves tips are facing down) also shows nitrogen toxicity. Also the top leaves have really thin blades, that's another sign of either p or K toxicity. for future reference I would try not to go over 1.4 to 1.7 EC in flower adn feed no more than once every 5 to 7 days. For now stop feeding altogether and let the plant consume the excess nutrients present in the soil and its own stores, do not feed gain, you are too close to harvest (1 or 2 weeks I would say).
Fed her just ph'd water today. I should have fed her yesterday but I got sidetracked. She was really in a sad state this morning but seems to have recovered. Tested the runoff and was getting about 6.2ph, with 1167 tds. Week went ok, however some of the other big fan leaves are starting to discolor similar to my issue last week. I expect 2-3 more weeks for this girl so I hope these fan leaves pull thru. I want to chop off the lower limbs but I don't want to stress her out, so for now I'm leaving them. Advice is welcome on that? I think this next week is going to seriously fatten up with flower production. This plant has had minimal interaction in the way of defoliation. Thanks for reviewing my diary. All watering and changes have be logged below in comments.
Hello Growdiaries!! This week went pretty well. Thanks to fellow growers suggestions I stopped adding nutrients and have only done water feed the last 12 days or so. She seems to be responding very well. A few days ago I removed some twigs off bottom of plant and she seems to have recovered without much delay. She has been drinking more which is normal. Her colas are really putting on some weight now. The side colas are starting to fatten up now as well, which is really nice to see.
I am still debating whether to feed her nutrients one more time as I am pretty sure she is 2 weeks+ before harvest. The reason I say this is not a whole lot of sugar on sugar leaves yet for a white widow. Also, the side colas only have about 25% orange pistils. The big fan leaves are discolored but not yellow yet. I am glad I tied her up to the light as she's pretty top-heavy now.
Anyhow, thanks for tuning in and checking out my grow. All suggests are welcome anytime. Happy growing!
Hello fellow growers. This week went by and it was not real eventful. I did hang a side bulb above a cola as a test to see if I could fatten up a smaller cola with a side lamp, 35w cfl. You can see it in the last photo. I added CNS17-Ripe about halfway through the week and I really see a difference, particularly on the top cola, the pistils got fatter, much fatter. Now of course it could just be regular development, but I like to believe some of these nutrients work as advertised.
So the side colas have put on a lot of sugar on the sugar leaves. The amber pistils are about 50/50 so we are getting close. I have not inspected the tricomes under my scope yet as I have to remove material from the plant to do so and I hate doing that to her. She is being babied, it will hurt a little when I have to pull her down, after she has done such a great job for me. I suspect the harvest will be next weekend, I guess I know what my friends are getting for xmas, lol.
Thanks for checking out my diary, happy growing!
It was very easy to grow. I wished I had fimed it. Also wish I had it closer to the light early on as she got so stretchy and tall. Very little on defoliation needed. She smells wonderful! Will give smoke report later.
Update: she's deliciously yummy. Some was super smooth and fragrant. I had a small bit of the dryer nug and I really enjoy this strain. It is my second favorite behind the sour stomper. Very easy to grow. I will grow this again in the future.
Well this was my second harvest with this strain. I have to say it's easy to grow, and very strong. I was surprised at how big she got after my last couple of grows. I really like it!
I will attempt some fim on my next grow, I would like more large colas than just the huge one. She was a good plant. I have to remember to add cal-mag supplement on week 3 next run. Unfortunately I have to move next month and have to cancel my next run as I don't want to move plants.
You can really see the 'White' part of this White Widow in the video at the end!
I want to thank you fellow growers for all your help. I really appreciate it!! You guys and gals are my support network. Thank you for being here for me.
I will give smoke report and update flavors and dry weight once these buds are done drying. Popcorn bowl was not included in wet weight.
I hope by my detailed watering and nutrients notes it will help someone with their grow.
Good luck and happy growing!!
Update: second smoke report, nearly drank the bong water instead of my beer while watching Hollaback girl with Gwen Stafani. Yeah, it's good. ;)
@BeefWellingtons, I’ve found my digi meter to be unreliable at times as well. Too lazy to recalibrate so I’m kickn it old school now!👍. Grows lookn good brotha!
@TheBudWhisperer, well he is a good friend and a smart person, so that's why I was upset...he even told me my sour stomper was 'fire', which I agree, that shit was/is fire. So my worry us that he doesn't think I have the skills to recreate 'fire', which I know I can do. I will try to guide him soon on the transplant, and we will see how they go from there. I think I'm going to start the grow (I have pics and notes from their first week) and update that on here if possible.
Fed .9 gallons of h20 at around 7ph. Run off was 1270 ppm and around 6.1 ph. Does this sound normal? I haven't fed nutrients in 4 feedings and my ppm seems to be going up?
@TheBudWhisperer, well all cards on the table, that other grow was in hydro, which would have finished earlier, but like I mentioned I did a crap ton of defoiliating and bending colas, it was a stressed plant for sure. I'm guessing 2 weeks out from now.
@BeefWellingtons, now that was a good idea with the lower strength feed. If last run was 15 weeks it’ll be interesting to see where this one finishes. Got some WW gems on the way in the mail myself😎
@TheBudWhisperer, I gave them a 1/4 strength .7 gallons of h20 and nutes this morning. Next watering will begin the 7-10 day flush. I did check them out and I know I'm beyond 7 days for harvest. My other ww took 15 weeks and I did a lot of breaking stems and defoiliating. With this one being minimum stress, I'm pretty sure 2 weeks out will be perfect.
I think I'm still about 10 days out so I added some Botanicare Ripe which suggests feeding to the end, but I'm just adding it this one time...I keep forgetting to add it to my grow. Also, it dropped the ph down really bad, had to pull out ph up for the first time.
Fed her .7 gallons at 6.5 range ph. I am a little nervous as she looks kinda droopy but I hope that is just from lack of water and not a bigger issue. I will keep an eye out.
@MaryJaneUSA, true true. All I can say is that I think I've got an good drying/curing process down now as the aroma is coming back and hay smell/chlorophyll is diminishing.
Lookn prime buddy. Re; branch chop - if @athos is right about u only being a couple weeks from harvest, I’d leave those branches be. You’re gonna have a smoke off this one for sure and I wouldn’t want to stress my plant out and limit bud growth in the last couple weeks of flower. Worst case if you do - I wouldn’t chop more than 1 every few days to limit the shock of it. I honestly would’ve expected a longer flower period for WW but only ever grown a cross of it myself. Good luck bro!👊
@BeefWellingtons, if that’s the case and it’s previously demonstrated itself to be a resilient strain then IMO it might be worth a shot to increase bud production elsewhere. I’d do a little at a time every couple days over this week or so if u do pull the trigger and cut em. If it’s not a short finisher then I’d say that this week is the hard cutoff to do it. I generally try not to touch my plants (save light pruning) after end of week 3 flower. Hope it helps dude👍👊
@TheBudWhisperer, I believe I am 3 weeks out. Based on my first grow of ww. That took 15 weeks but had a lot of defoiliating and supercroped tops. So at least 3 weeks out imo. I will know better in 2. I was just not sure if it will help with flower production or just end up elongating my grow and adding a couple of weeks to harvest. I expect this harvest to be some time after week 12.
Dude - I run into this issue all the time on my soil grows. It’s like it takes the pot forever to dry out and it totally screws with my nute schedule (actually part of the reason I went to coco indoors). She should start drinking a lot more soon anyway. only concern I’d have with watering less, is not getting enough runoff after each watering - keep an eye on any signs of lockout and please keep it updated on GD. Interested to see how this plays out!👍👊. As far as the height is concerned - u consider supercropping the top of er? It would help if ur battling height differences in the tent and it’s still early enough to do it I think. Did it once myself with an auto around week 2 of flower (by accident) and it really supercharged the other branches. Just a thought anyway. Good luck bud, can’t wait to see her colours!
@BeefWellingtons, Hey man - whatever you think is gonna work best. I'm a big proponent of making your grow your own and we only learn from respective experience👍. How much water you afford the plant is often based on what stage of it's growth cycle it's in. In your case, this girl is in the stretch/transition phase and as such, she's gonna start gulping down water generally faster than she did in veg. soon. Regarding runoff - the rule of thumb is between 10-20% every watering, whether it's coco or soil. Not only does it allow you to test the ph of what was in the medium (if you have something to collect it in), it also ensures that you run through the new nute water completely and (hopefully), flush out the lingering old stuff. With soil, and at this stage, I would probably try running a full litre or more on it and see what ends up coming out the bottom. When you have a decent amount of runoff, say .1 - .2L then ur good. It really is beneficial to the plant's growth. Now keep in mind, this won't solve your issue with watering every 4-5 days. if you're watering properly (and I think you are minus the runoff point), then the plant needs what it needs, when it needs it. 3 days or 5 days - it's up to the soil and the plant brother. This is what soil is supposed to do anyway - it has it's own nutrients built in for the first few weeks and it holds on to nutes that you give it too. You have two options on that front. #1 amend your soil with more purlite - like 2/3 perlite and 1/3 soil. She'll drain quicker and dry out faster if you want to stick to a more frequent nute sched. Or you could try coco & perlite on a 50/50 mix - it's got excellent drainage and good nute holding properties. Essentially the same thing as soil, only it drys out quicker and is completely neutral in terms of nutrients which allows you to dictate what it gets and when😉. Coco absolutely requires you to water through whereas soil is a little more forgiving. IMO- ur kinda stuck with whatever sched. the soil allows for given the current environment. Shitty and unfixable answer, I'm sorry. But also understand that I just got stoned and went off on this response! Cheers homie and happy Friday! Whatever you decide, I'm watching with interest! PEACE!👊
@TheBudWhisperer, I did supercrop a couple of my colas on my first grow, about 4 or 5 weeks into flower, freaked me out to do it. I thought about it with this one, but it looks like if I pull her to the wall, she will get more light coverage and still be far enough away from light so she won't get cooked...that way no supercrop will be necessary. So the other thing I want to ask is how much runoff do you recommend? I just put the liquid in the pot and that's it. I do about 20-25% of the total volume (3 gallon), or .7-.9 gallon per feeding, but like you said it takes way too long to dry out and doesn't allow enough nutrients to be fed as often as I'm sure she needs them?
Nice work man! WW is a beautiful plant and a classic strain, I hope it goes well for you.
You’ll be happy to know I’ve just ordered a digital ph reader as well as ph up & down. I’ll be following your grow keenly.
Good luck and happy growing my friend!
BeefWellingtons
