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ETHOS Clones pt. 2 (Diary #10)

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Week 2. Flowering
a year ago
76.2 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.2
1100 PPM
60 %
20 °C
20 °C
19 °C
19 L
4 L
40.64 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 7
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A 2 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B 2 mll
B-52 - Advanced Nutrients
B-52 1 mll
Last run until fall. I need a break. Thought I'd throw up a bloom only diary to pass the time. In addition to the cuts I took from the last run of ETHOS plants, I've got a few plants I grew from bag seed. Not expecting a lot from them, and they could get tossed if they decide to herm on me. If they make it, it could be very, VERY interesting. I let those two plants grow naturally, no topping. There are small budlets forming and I'm counting down the days until I strip the lower half. Start of week 3 I will prune everything under canopy. The last two runs I've left all growth to do its thing and ended up with a lot of larfy nonsense. Hoping for a better result this time around. -------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 2 (Feb 20-26) -------------------------------------------- _______________ Feb 20 (4-6L) • 2.2 EC / 6.2 pH (w/ PK 14/15) _______________ Feb 22 (3-4L) • 2.0 EC / 6.2 pH • Not much runoff (soil very dry) • Small budlets forming _______________ Feb 24 (6L) • 2.1 EC / 6.1 pH
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Week 3. Flowering
a year ago
101.6 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.1
Normal
1200 PPM
60 %
20 °C
20 °C
19 °C
19 L
4 L
40.64 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 7
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A 2 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B 2 mll
B-52 - Advanced Nutrients
B-52 1 mll
Pruned off a ton of small skinny branches. Last time these girls produced a lot of larfy buds because I left way too much lower growth on. We'll see if this makes a difference. ------------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 3 (Feb 27-Mar 4) ------------------------------------------------- _______________ Feb 27 (3-4L) • 2.2 EC / 6.2 pH • Lamps to 100% • Vent closed during lights on (open at lights off) _______________ Feb 29 (3-4L) • 2.4 EC / 6.1 pH __________________ Mar 1 (3-4L AM) • 2.6 EC / 6.1 ph Didn't mean to mix this strong but there's no signs of nute burn yet and to be fair this is just over half strength on the bottles. I'll keep going between 2.2.-2.6 until I see something. They're taking a lot of water before I get any runoff. Going to try to keep them more saturated than last time (where I let them dry out very frequently) and see if there's any improvement. I'm almost certain the phenos I have aren't the best...at least with the 10th Planets. Had a few plants out of the 10 pack that were much much better. Two seeds left so I'm hoping I get another banger. ________________ Mar 2 (4-6L PM) • 2.4 EC / 6.0 pH (w/ Silica)
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Week 4. Flowering
a year ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.2
Normal
1250 PPM
60 %
20 °C
20 °C
19 °C
19 L
4 L
40.64 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 7
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom A 2 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Coco Bloom B 2 mll
B-52 - Advanced Nutrients
B-52 2 mll
------------------------------------------ BLOOM WEEK 4 (Mar 5-11) ------------------------------------------ Quick recap: The BS9's are the tallest plants, nearly 6'. Didn't top them, just let them go. They're probably 6" from the lamps, not great. Very little auxillary branching, very few fan leaves. 10P's look a little better than last time. Certainly seems like they're going to be a bit more dense. I only left flower sites on the top 18" to keep the larf down. Banana Daddy's are big and spread out again. Still a lot of small branches but I stripped 2/3 of the plants this time. Sadly BD#4 didn't root for this run, as she was the winner of the two. After 25 days I gave up and tossed the cuts. BD#5 had the looser buds last time and we're dealing with two of them. Fingers crossed she doesn't get larfy on me this time. Trimming was a fucking nightmare. At day 22 there's buds everywhere, seemingly bigger by the hour. Heavy tufts of long white pistils reaching for the sky. Trying not to let them dry out but work has been knocking me out for the last month so sometimes I pass out and miss the watering window. Two days is about as long as I can go without watering. They're taking 1-1.5 gallons a day at this point to get any runoff at all. Will use PK 14/15 this week, week 6 and week 8. B-52 and Sensizym end after week 6. Overdrive replaces the A+B starting week 7. Every other watering gets Silica. ________________ Mar 5 (2-4L) PM • 2.5 EC / 6.3 pH (w/ PK 14/15) _______________ Mar 6 (2-4L) AM • 2.3 EC / 6.2 pH (w/ PK 14/15) _________________ Mar 6 (3-4L) PM • 2.3 EC / 6.2 pH (w/ PK 14/15) • Decent runoff • Heavy pruning and defoliation _________________ Mar 7 (2-3L) PM • 2.5 EC / 6.3 pH (w/ PK 14/15 & Silica) • Pruned more leaves off • Tied branches up The neglect is showing...It was a jungle in there. I had to trim a bunch off and tie up the branches. Looks better now _____________ Mar 8 • No water _________________ Mar 9 (2-4L) AM • 2.7 EC / 6.2 pH (w/ PK 14/15) • Minimal runoff _________ Mar 10 • No water ________________ Mar 11 (2-3L) AM • 2.4 EC / 6.2 pH • No runoff
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Week 5. Flowering
a year ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
27 °C
6.2
Normal
1250 PPM
60 %
20 °C
20 °C
19 °C
19 L
4 L
40.64 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 9
Pure Blend Tea - Botanicare
Pure Blend Tea 1.321 mll
Remo Bloom - Remo Nutrients
Remo Bloom 2.642 mll
AstroFlower - Remo Nutrients
AstroFlower 2.113 mll
-------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 5 (Mar 12-18) -------------------------------------------- _____________________ Mar 12 (2.5-3.5L) PM • 2.3 EC / 6.0 pH • Minimal runoff ________________ Mar 13 (2L) AM • 2.2 EC / 6.1 pH • Small amount of runoff ________________ Mar 14 (2L) AM • 2.2 EC / 6.1 pH • No runoff ________________ Mar 15 (3-4L) AM • Switched to Remo Nutrients • 2.6 EC / 6.0 pH • Some runoff ________________ Mar 15 (3-4L) PM • 2.3 EC / 5.9 pH • Very good amount of runoff • A few fungus gnats spotted With all the warm weather and rain here, it was bound to happen. The gnats have woken up. Only saw two or three and clapped them. I went back to Remo Nutrients after a long run with AN and a mashup of lines (even though I'll only be feeding for another 3 weeks). Some of the best flower I've smoked recently were grown with Remo bottles (and their Elements line). The biggest yield I've pulled off a plant (265 grams) was with Remo. Giving them some pretty good doses ranging from 2.3-2.6 EC. No tip burn or anything alarming. Will be mixing at full strength the rest of the way. BD5s in the back have the same huge looking colas as last time. Hoping for better density this time. BS9s are TALL. Too tall. Super sugar coated already and looks like a quality over quantity strain. Definitely not a heavy yielder. 10P 7 is the shorter, leafier one up front and 10P 6 is middle right. _________ Mar 16 • No water ____________________ Mar 17 (4-6L) AM • 2.5 EC / 6.0 pH I dumped all the runoff into a pail and the EC measured 5.2. The catch trays were pretty dirty so the number might be inflated. 10P7 seems to have picked up a bit of yellow leaf tips but that could be over watering so I'm not flushing or anything. All the others look fine.
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Week 6. Flowering
a year ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6
Normal
1350 PPM
55 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
19 L
4 L
40.64 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 5
Remo Bloom - Remo Nutrients
Remo Bloom 2.113 mll
AstroFlower - Remo Nutrients
AstroFlower 2.113 mll
Remo Micro - Remo Nutrients
Remo Micro 2.113 mll
-------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 6 (Mar 19-25) -------------------------------------------- Week 6 starts with an EC boost. Mixing full strength produces an EC of 3.1-3.3 so I'm diluting to 2.7-2.9 EC and pH to 6.0. Runoff is around 5 EC right now. _________ Mar 19 • No water • Mixed nutrients AM ____________________ Mar 20 (3-4L) AM • 2.9 EC / 6.0 pH • Bit of runoff (7.2 EC in bucket, dirty trays) • Runoff pH = 5.1 __________________ Mar 20 (6L) PM • 1.4 EC / 6.3 pH (Cal-Mag + PK Spike + Sensizym) • 4.0 EC runoff __________ Mar 21 • No water • Cleaned catch trays __________________ Mar 22 (4L) PM • 2.7 EC / 6.0 pH __________ Mar 23 • No water _______________ Mar 24 (3-4L) PM • 2.8 EC / 6.0 pH __________________ Mar 25 (2-3L) AM • 2.7 EC / 6.1 • Runoff bucket 7.1 EC Plants seem to be drinking less now. Taking longer than usual to dry back. Could be the high root zone EC or just the plant maturity. There's very minor yellowing on some of the top leaf tips but nothing else suggesting overfeeding. Remo's nutrient chart has week 7 as the last week to feed so I'm following that. Buds aren't getting bigger after week 7 anyway so I'll just use plain water through weeks 8 and 9 while they ripen up. 10th Planet #6 looks much more dense than the previous run. 10P7 looks leafy again, but with much less larf. Banana Daddy #5 has these big lofty colas like last time so we'll see how dense they end up being. I'm not holding my breath there. BS9s are very frosty and like glue if you touch them. Next week I'll try to drop the temperature and humidity a bit to 75F day 65F night / 45%. VPD has been a touch high (1.6-1.85 kpa) the last few days as humidity in the whole house has been flattened by a cold snap outside. Buckets of water helped a bit. Should be easy to get lower temps and humidity by just running the extractor non-stop on a low speed.
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Week 7. Flowering
a year ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
25 °C
6
Normal
1350 PPM
50 %
20 °C
20 °C
18 °C
19 L
4 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 5
Remo Bloom - Remo Nutrients
Remo Bloom 2.113 mll
AstroFlower - Remo Nutrients
AstroFlower 2.113 mll
Remo Micro - Remo Nutrients
Remo Micro 2.113 mll
------------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 7 (Mar 26-Apr 1) ------------------------------------------------- ___________________ Mar 26 (3-4L) AM • 2.7 EC / 6.1 pH • Runoff 7.1 Branches are getting heavy and leaning. Really gotta watch the overnight humidity... ___________________ Mar 27 (2+4L) PM • 2L water each @ 6.3 pH • 4L @ 2.2 EC / 6.1 pH • Runoff 5.2 EC _________ Mar 28 • No water ___________________ Mar 29 (3-4L+2L) AM • 3-4L water each @ 6.3 pH • Runoff 4.3 EC (after water only) • 2L @ 2.4 EC / 6.0 pH • Runoff 2.9 EC
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Week 8. Flowering
a year ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6
Strong
950 PPM
45 %
20 °C
20 °C
17 °C
19 L
8 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 6
Remo Bloom - Remo Nutrients
Remo Bloom 2.113 mll
AstroFlower - Remo Nutrients
AstroFlower 2.113 mll
Remo Micro - Remo Nutrients
Remo Micro 2.113 mll
--------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 8 (Apr 2-8) --------------------------------------- I've started flushing the Ethos clones this week. I've learned the BS9's are 10 week blooms. Shouldn't have stopped the Cal-Mag...signs of an advanced calcium deficiency are showing with fan leaves covered in tiny rust spots. I added it back to the feed schedule for this week but it might be too late. Probably affected the yield, but they were bag seed so I really don't care. The last run of 10P/BD were ready around day 56-60 last time so this throws off the harvest schedule big time. I can't push the others to 70 days so I'll have to harvest those 4 and keep the other two going. ________________ Apr 2 (4L) AM • Water only @ 6.3 pH (clones) • Runoff 3.2 EC (clones only) ________________ Apr 2 (4L) PM • Water only @ 6.3 pH (clones) • Runoff 2.2 EC (clones) ________________ Apr 3 (2-3L) AM • 2.2 EC / 6.2 pH (BS9) The thin branching of the BS9s are prone to bending and are flopping all over the place. Nothing to tie them to besides other branches and that's putting stress on the main stalk causing a massive slump. The plants were way too tall to begin with and got zero topping so this is what happens. EC is dropping fast with just a few gallons of water through so far. I wasn't thrilled with the ash colour last time, so I'll try to put at LEAST 5x the pot size through before harvesting. 4 plants in 5 gallon bags means 100 gallons of water. Insanity. I'm actually not sure how I can pull that off with only 25 gallons (5x 5 gallon buckets) available at any one time. ________________ Apr 4 (10L) PM • Water only @ 6.2 pH (clones) • Runoff 0.8 EC • 4.5L @ 2.4 EC / 6.1 pH (BS9s) BD #5 and 10P #7 are starting to throw bananas. Probably not enough time for that to do anything, and there's no pistils to catch pollen so should be ok. They're getting chopped at the end of the week regardless. _______ Apr 5 • No water (no dechlorinated water available) Rust spots have spread to a few sugar leaves on the BS9 with the calcium def. Definitely not ideal with a full 2 weeks left on them. Cal-Mag continues but doesn't appear to be helping. The taller BS9 has some clawing and twisting on the fan leaves indicating overfeeding. It also had the higher runoff EC of the two. ________________ Apr 6 (3-4L) AM • 1.8 EC / 6.3 pH (BS9) ________________ Apr 6 (8L) PM • Water only @ 6.3 pH (clones) • Runoff 0.6 EC ________________ Apr 7 PM • Water only 2L @ 6.3 pH (clones) • 6L @ 1.9 EC / 5.8 pH (BS9s) • Runoff 3.1-3.4 EC (BS9) ________________ Apr 8 (4L) AM • Water only 4L @ 6.3 pH (clones) • Runoff 0.5 EC • 2L @ 1.9 EC / 5.8 pH (BS9s) • Runoff 3.1 EC (BS9) Flushing continues with root zone EC down to 0.5. My tap water is 0.3 EC. Likely a lot of minerals in it so I'm debating on grabbing a bunch of distilled water to get them below that mark. Trichomes are all cloudy and a bunch of amber so they're probably ready, besides the flushing not being complete. Not a ton of fading yet either so harvesting will wait until I see way more yellow/purple fans. Week 9 I'll be trying to drop the temperature a bit (both day and night) while keeping humidity at 40-45%. I really have to start pummeling them with water so humidity could be an issue
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Week 9. Flowering
10 months ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6
Strong
150 PPM
45 %
20 °C
20 °C
17 °C
19 L
8 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 1
Tap water 1000 mll
------------------------------------------ BLOOM WEEK 9 (Apr 9-15) ------------------------------------------ _________ Apr 9 • No water Flushing continues for the Ethos clones this week and begins for BS9s. Plain tap water pH adjusted to 6.3. I'll harvest around day 63 for the cuts and day 70 for the rest. _______________ Apr 10 (10L) PM • 0.3 EC / 6.3 pH • Runoff 0.3 EC (clones) • Runoff 1.0 EC (BS9) Banana Daddy#5 looks exactly the same as last time. There's massive looking mains but you can tell they aren't dense. Slight foxtailing going on as well. Both threw out some bananas, I've just been plucking them before they open. Between the 10th Planets, #7 (leafier) is the terpiest. Really loud artificial grape nose. #6 leans to the gassier side and looks much more dense and frosty. BS9s both look very dense and completely covered in trichomes. Branches are leaning all over the place. The majority of pistils are still white with only a few turning red on some of the flowers. Random amber trichomes but way more clear. Will absolutely go 70 days. ________ Apr 11 • No water _________________ Apr 12 (7-8L) PM • Water only 6.3 pH • Runoff 0.3 EC Two 5 gallon pails produced 1 pail of runoff. I plan to put another few gallons through this weekend before changing over to distilled water for the final flush. I'll keep the BS9s on tap water until the end of week 10. ________ Apr 13 • No water ____________________ Apr 14 (10-12L) PM • Distilled water flush (0.1 EC/6.0 pH) • Runoff 0.2 EC • Runoff BS9s 0.4 EC Distilled water was 9.0 pH so I added 2-3 drops of pH down...went to 3.4. Had to add tap water to get back to 6.0 pH and that moved the EC from 0 to 0.1. Humidity has been in the 40-45% range for a while with temps 23-25c. VPD can be a touch high, at times over 1.7 kpa. I think average has been about 1.34, lowest at night around 1.1. 10th Planet #7 is the only plant that isn't really fading yet. There's a few random leaves that have yellowed but nothing like the others. Might let it go the 10th week idk...really haven't seen anything like this before. The other clones are pretty much ready. ________________________ Apr 15 (4L) AM (Day 63) • Distilled water only (9.0 pH) • Runoff 0.2 EC • Pulled BD5s/10ths out of the room After 75L over two weeks, the EC is down to 0.2. I could probably try to get it to zeros but I'm not buying any more distilled water. It's lower than any of my previous flushes so we'll see how the ash looks this time. I'm leaving the 4 plants I moved out in a dark area for the next 24 hrs before I cut them down and hang them up. Fans on low speed moving air around the room. Humidity is around 55% and temps at 17c. I overdryed last time so this time I'm guessing 7-10 days to dry instead of 14-21. Nice shades of purples and greens and a tropical aroma going on. The smell was really strong when I was moving them around. Bitchslap still has a fair amount of clear trichomes. They have the room to themselves for the next week as flushing continues.
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Week 10. Flowering
10 months ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6
Strong
100 PPM
40 %
20 °C
20 °C
17 °C
19 L
8 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 1
Tap water 1000 mll
--------------------------------------------- BLOOM WEEK 10 (Apr 16-22) --------------------------------------------- Just two left, most are hanging. Trying to keep two separate environments in close proximity isn't the easiest. It's around 55% and 16-18c. These were easily the weakest phenos from the seed packs so I'm not all that excited for this harvest . They also happened to be the last ones I popped so bad luck. These bag seeds are blowing them out of the water for quality and I just don't know what to say anymore. Taking a break after this run for sure Flush continues on the BS9s. _________________ Apr 16 (4L) PM • Water only _________________ Apr 17 (4L) AM • Water only ___________________ Apr 18 (12L) AM • Water only Runoff is 0.3 EC, same as the tap water. There's still a lot of clear trichomes. Really hoping they don't go past 70 days but it's looking that way at the moment (Day 66). _________________ Apr 19 (5L) AM • Water only • Runoff 0.3 EC • LOW HUMIDITY (35%) _________________ Apr 20 (6L) PM • Water only _________________ Apr 21 (8L) PM • Water 4L • Distilled water 4L ________________ Apr 22 (4L) AM • Distilled water • Runoff 0.2 EC Far as I'm going with flushing BS9. Just gonna let them dry out for the next day or two and cut them down. Way more cloudy trichomes now. Plants I cut down last week are almost ready to trim so I'll have my hands full for a while.
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Week 11. Flowering
10 months ago
137.16 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6
Strong
40 %
20 °C
20 °C
17 °C
19 L
8 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 1
Distilled water 1000 mll
Will do the update and add more pics on the harvest report. Been a busy week!
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Week 12. Harvest
10 months ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Banana Daddy R1 - ETHOS Genetics
Spent 73 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
7/10
Rated
144 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
127
Grow Room size
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Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Flowers on the Banana Daddy were more dense than last time. I attribute that to the aggressive pruning of the lower, inside branches. I still left some branching I should've clipped, but the top 18" was beautiful. I let them dry almost a week less because they went too far last time and the oils and terpenes weren't where they should've been. Noticeably greasier on my gloves this time and the flowers didn't feel like they'd crush into powder. I'm curing in a plastic tote to keep the moisture levels more consistent throughout. Every day I'll give them a light turn with my hands. Smoke report to follow in a few weeks.
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Week 12. Harvest
10 months ago
Happy Harvest Day!
10th Planet R1 - ETHOS Genetics
Spent 73 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
8/10
Rated
108.5 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
127
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Both clones grew as expected with #6 being the denser, frostier pheno and #7 being the more terpy, leafy pheno. Both have great colours. #7 is a reddish colour while #6 leans to purple. I pruned a lot of the lower inside branches off this time and that had a significant improvement on the the main colas. Both are very dense this time. There was zero larf on #6, everything was worth trimming. #7 will have some larf that I'll toss into a bin for edibles. Kept all the sugar leaf as well and will weigh that separately. It's all getting used, no waste! Curing in Grove bags for the weeks to come. Yields on these are definitely going to be smaller than last time (clones usually are) but the quality and structure is a lot better. I'll give it a few weeks before smoking but I'm expecting the same flavours as before. See you in a few weeks!
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Week 12. Harvest
10 months ago
Happy Harvest Day!
BS9 - Custom Breeder & Strain
Spent 73 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
10/10
Rated
110 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
127
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Bare minimum leaves to trim. Really happy with how they look and smell. Just distilled water for the remainder of flush
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