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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/300W
Custom
Fission 300W High-Intensity Discharge/315W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
FIMing
weeks Technique
20 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
2.54 cm
24 hrs
29 °C
5.6
300 PPM
90 %
19 °C
66.04 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 1
Plant Start - Vitalink
Plant Start 1 mll
Hey guys! 2nd time growing and first time running FastBuds genetics. This diary is for the 2 x Pinapple Express I'll be growing. The tent will have these along with 3 x FastBuds SixShooter and 1x Crystal Meth. Had a bad germination rate this time round using the paper towel method so having to run a mixed bag. Should be a nice challenge though tending for the needs of 3 different strains in one environment. These will get topped early on then depending on how tall they get I may put them under a scrog.
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
5.08 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.6
450 PPM
85 %
19 °C
1 L
0 L
66.04 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 3
Plant Start - Vitalink
Plant Start 1 mll
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 1 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Week 2 under my cheap 300w LED and these two seem to love it. I did have an issue where my extractor switched off and the little veg box was soaking wet at 100% humidity. This has caused them to curl and twist a little but not slowed them down at all. I moved them into these 800g individual pots on Friday as the roots were nicely netted and circling. I lifted them today and was pleasantly surprised to see that the roots are already poking out of the bottom so I may even re-pot then again before they go into 20 litre fabric pots. Gave them a drop of x-roots and x-force too and I'm going to do the full grow with BioGreen as it's been excellent throughout my stardawg grow. I might add some terpinator towards the end as everyone on here seems to rave about it. Anyway we have a long way to go before that and I'm happy that these Pinapple Express are getting a great start.
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
15.24 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.6
450 PPM
85 %
19 °C
20 °C
1 L
0 L
167.74 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 4
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 1 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 1 mll
Week 3 complete. Had to support these Pinapple as they have gotten bushy up top really fast. Ideally these could do with going into their final 20 litre smart pots this week. Really impressed with the 300w LED I'm using for early veg growth. The internodal distance is so small and the plants are staying nice and stocky. EC kept below 1.0 feeding around 100ml of nutes every other day. PH at 5.6 and they seem to be loving it. No burn or curling up. This will be their final week in the small veg box. I topped them last night between the 3rd and 4th node.
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Week 4. Vegetation
6 years ago
17.78 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.6
500 PPM
65 %
19 °C
22 °C
20 L
1 L
76.2 cm
400 PPM
Nutrients 5
Nitrogen - Canna
Nitrogen 0.5 mll
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 2 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Day 28 for these 2 Pineapple Express. I transplanted them to 20litre propots on Friday then put them in my main tent under the 315w CHMs on Saturday. It wasn't untill they went under the clean white light that I noticed they are suffering from some N deficiency. I've since give them a strong feed with some extra N and they have perked up no end. Expecting them to take a few days to completely recover from the stress of moving house and the deficiency. Great root mass which is a testament to fastbuds genetics. I'm hoping to have my improved co2 in the tent mid week so hopefully they will start to speed up as I do think they've been slower than others on here.
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Week 5. Vegetation
6 years ago
17.78 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.6
500 PPM
65 %
19 °C
24 °C
20 L
1 L
50.8 cm
1400 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 1 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 1.5 mll
Pineapple in the Parlour! End of week 5 for these two beauties. I've fed them twice with the same feed as week 4 but both times supplemented 1ml per litre with Canna Nitrogen and 0.5 of BioGreen Calgel. They've responded perfectly changing to a luscious deep green colour and nearly doubled in size! I'm putting this down to many factors but have to give some credit to my new Ecotechnics Unis Co2 doser. It took a few days for the plants to respond but they have had a great burst of growth in the last 72 hours. At the beginning of the week I struggled with some environmental issues and these plants looked lacking in calcium but you wouldn't know if you looked at them today. Both beautiful and green! I'm hoping that by next week they will start showing signs of flower as I'm training them to go under a scrog and dont actually want them to get too big. The reason for this is because i have 2 Six Shooter in the tent also and want to give them enough space to show me just how good a strain they are. Ahhh But...... afterall this is my competition grow and I want these Pinapple to flourish and yeild the best they can. Hence why I'm investing heavily in my environment. As well as the Co2 I've also added an additional 300w LED into the tent. Its actually the light I used to veg these plants but I have ordered a new light for my veg box and I'm not about having lights sat around 😁 Fingers crossed these girls make the flip at some point this week. P Update: Day 39 added a few more photos of these beautiful Pinapple! I think FastBuds should have named them Amazon Express because this canopy is thick!!!! I think they are just showing their first signs of flower which is great so I may do a little bit of defoliation tomorrow or Saturday. Some of the biggest fan leaves are the size of my hand and taking up a lot of that valuable canopy light. As these are going under the net I'm just constantly tucking them under as they grow a couple of inches per day. Everything going really well with this grow I'm really optimistic.
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Week 6. Vegetation
6 years ago
22.86 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.8
800 PPM
65 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
3 L
45.72 cm
1400 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 1 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 1.5 mll
Final week of Veg for my 2 Pinapple Express. These beautiful ladies have just started to show me their lady parts 😁 Everything going perfectly to plan thus far and FastBuds showing me the benefits of growing autoflowers. Lots of new growth appeared right before they start their stretch. I'd say theres over 30 bud sites on the biggest of the two plants and mabey 24 on the smaller one. Gives me plenty of space to spread them out under the net. After a week of stretching I'll be removing any growth that hasn't made it from under the net. Theres so much vegetation in the lower stalk area and i dont want any of that engery going to waste and making small popcorn buds. Feed wise they've suddenly become really thirsty. I was watering 6 litres every 3-4 days but this week they've urgently needed feeding after 48 hours. I'm going to keep a close eye and might even switch to everyday feed but slightly less at a time. Bloom nutrients from here on out. Check in mid week as I'll be updating pics as and when I get time or make any changes. Day 44 I've added a few extra photos of the full view in the tent. Canopy starting to fill out. These arent stretching too fast which I'm pretty happy about. Hopefully I'll be able to keep a nice even scrog.
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Week 7. Flowering
6 years ago
27.94 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.9
Weak
900 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
5 L
35.56 cm
1400 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.5 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
What a pleasure these Pinapple are to grow. I couldn't be happier with the way they are filling out the scrog net. My only question is how bushy is too bushy? I've had to trim out a serious amount of undergrowth and large central fan leaves. I think a combination of great genetics and the complete spectrum the 315s output is causing the canopy to be so so dense. I'm just hoping the buds fatten up too! I'm trying to leave them alone as much as possible and I'm no longer tucking them under the net. I'll leave them to recover from today's defoliation and do some more plucking next weekend. I've got a feeling this tent is going to look very different in 7 days time! Now on everyday watering. Keeping the EC below 2.0 and fluctuating PH from 5.7 to 6.1 throughout the week to uptake as many nutrients as possible. Mid week edit: Please check out my last 5 photos added at day 52. One of the 2 Pineapple Express I have in the tent is looking really tired and droopy. I cant seem to figure out what is causing it as the other Pinapple is happy and praying. I also have 2 Six Shooter and a Cream Cookies and both of those are happy and stacking on the bud. Temps are solid at 29 degrees light on and 21 dark. Feeding when required. They just look like they are lacking something. Some of the oldest fan leaves have brown rusty patches on them too. I've given each plant a Biosys Microbe tea today in place of a regular feed. Ive also emptied and scrubbed out my water tank and watering can. Hopefully that brings them round but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Day 53, I've turned the blurple LED off in the centre and also reduced to 18/6 light cycle. They just look so lifeless. Almost like they are sick of the light. If she recovers I'll try turning the LED back on next week.
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TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourstarted grow question 6 years ago
Check out my week 7 update for more info. Only one plant in the tent affected so it's really bugging me?!? Thought it was overwatering. Left them 2 days between feeds and they are bone dry and pots are light. Any suggestions or could it just be a trait of the Pheno?
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey there ICP, i took a look, looks like two minor things to me. First of all those leaves with the strange coloring are a sign of phosphorous (P) deficiency. Second the little spots on the leaves some very minor calcium deficiency. You can fix the P-def with a bit more P/K fert, calcium deficiency you can fix with cal mag (2-6 ml / liter) . If you do remedy these, they should actually recover in around a week's time . Hope this helps bro ! 🚀
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Week 8. Flowering
6 years ago
30.48 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.9
Weak
1100 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
5 L
45.72 cm
1400 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.3 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
Terrible week for these Pinapple Express. Completely my fault. They have been over fertilized and as such locked out and shown deficiency. I started the week by giving them a Biosys Microbe tea. I've then flushed them twice and today given them another microbe tea. Instantly perked up and now back on track. This is a massive lesson for me. Just shows if your growing different strains in one set up you need to tailor the nute strength and in general take more care towards the needs of each strain. I'll bring the nutes back in tomorrow at half dose but it's clear these Pinapple arent quite as strong as their Six Shooter sisters. Regardless they are still on track and I'm positive that i can bring them round and make a good yeild. Check back mid week for some updates on their recovery.
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Week 9. Flowering
6 years ago
35.56 cm
20 hrs
29 °C
5.9
Weak
900 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
10 L
45.72 cm
900 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.2 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
3rd flower week complete. I cant help but think I've ruined one of the 2 girls. Shes taking a really long time to recover and bud growth is slow and steady. I've defoliated for about an hour and a half tonight and now really need to get some sleep! I'll pop back tomorrow with lots more photos and a more in depth update on what has changed this week. Update........ so ive been caring for the burnt up plant throughout the week. Shes not gotten any worse but just seems a little stressed now. I decided to remove the worst of the burnt and dried up leaves last night. I know it will also cause stress but I didn't want the rotting leaves to cause any bacteria growth around the healthy plants. They've been on everyday waterings at around 1.6 EC. I've included some Hygrowzyme in the last few feeds in the hope some beneficial enzymes may help the root zone take on nutrients. Despite one of the pair being unwell the other is healthy and vigorous. Shes not getting the attention she rightly deserves so I've included lots of photos to this weeks diary. I wouldn't want anyone to be put off from growing this strain as it has so much potential. I'm hoping that the healthy plant produces the goods and leaves me wanting more.
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Week 10. Flowering
6 years ago
38.1 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
5.9
Weak
900 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
10 L
45.72 cm
900 PPM
Nutrients 5
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.5 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
Sorry for the late update. It's been a hectic week at home and I barely had time to do the basic work. Bit of a nightmare also. These Pinapple are flying along and probably have 2 mabey 2,1/2 weeks left until harvest. I'm now getting leaf damage on both plants despite keeping EC below 1.8 at all times. Really cant put my finger on it but I've decided just to let them run out and ill try and be more thorough on my next attempt with this strain. Really happy with them despite that and bud structure is looking really great.
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Week 11. Flowering
6 years ago
43.18 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6
Weak
750 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
6 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 6
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.2 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
Once again i'm a little bit late on this weeks update. They are closer to 5 1/2 weeks of flower but I will get back on track this weekend. Cannot stop the burning so at this point I'm on damage prevention. Flushed them with ph water and hygrozyme mid week then today a light feed at 1.5ec. First photo shows the sheer size of this plant. I soooo wish I didn't have the problems with deficiency/over fert because I believe this could have been a 20oz+ pair of plants. I'm hoping its not far off that anyway. Trics starting to cloud up nicely so next week will be final week of nutes then from Sunday 20th they will have their final week on PH water. Gone a little bit longer than scheduled but I know the result will be great.
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Week 12. Flowering
6 years ago
45.72 cm
20 hrs
28 °C
6
Weak
750 PPM
55 %
19 °C
21 °C
20 L
6 L
25.4 cm
1200 PPM
Nutrients 6
X-Rooting - Bio Green
X-Rooting 0.2 mll
X-Force - Bio Green
X-Force 0.15 mll
Hydro A - Bio Green
Hydro A 2 mll
Can't seem to get caught up with this diary. I'm nearly a week ahead of this so on Monday I'll do the week 13 update before I go on holiday. Doubtful there will be a week 14 diary as my dad is taking care of the flush then hang dry. Once I'm home I'll do the harvest update and weight. Anyway. Girls are stacking up lovely. I seem to have the overfertilization under control. Frost is improving daily. Smell as you would expect. Tangy and fruity. Last day on nutrients will be Monday. After that a week or mabey 9 day flush then chop. Ill go back to the tent in a few hours and get some photos in the dark.
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Week 13. Harvest
6 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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Wow, now that was a hectic few days/weeks. Gutted that I had my dad looking after the final 2 weeks of this grow. They didn't quite finish out how I'd of liked but all in all I'm happy with the result. The end product is almost too big. The buds are a little fluffy but what it lacks in bag appeal it makes up for in smoke. This pheno is by far the strongest I've had (pre cure). Hung dry for 7 days then trimmed using the Trim Bag and a little hand fettle. I've smoked it twice now and both times its had me believing I'm in a cartoon or something 😂 great creative head buzz followed by a strong body buzz. Lasts a good 2 hours and slopes off to a nice relaxed pain relieving body stone.
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Spent 85 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
286.33 g
Bud dry weight per plant
2
Plants
6.5
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Positive effects
Creative, Euphoric, Hungry
Positive effects
Negative effects
Dry mouth
Negative effects
Taste
Fruity, Sweet, Tropical
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

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Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Pot size
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If anyone is thinking of trying FastBuds Pinapple Express then my advise is definitely give it a go! Training / Topping / Scrog will really really improve your yeilds. The quality of my buds could have been so much better and I will come back and give it another go in the future. Grown under Maxibright 315w Lamps. Topped at the 3rd node, Scroged and cut away all the lower growth after 2nd week of flowering. Some defoliation/leaf tucking needed throughout the whole grow. Dont go too heavy on the nutes and she will really reward with the yeilds. Taste and smoke is unreal. Really smooth and sweet! I'll be smoking this for a very very long time. Now curing in 20 litre buckets with a XL boveda so I'm hoping the buds do fatten up a little.
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ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 56 years ago
Keep smoking and having fun then smoke 💨 some more and you’ll be just fine 👍🏼
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 16 years ago
Hi what do you mean with bad germination rate=? how many /of how many... thy for answering
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@RastaMouse, I'm not too upset. I've restocked on seeds so I have 10 Six Shooter, 3 Gorrilla Glue, a BlackBerry and a Blue Dream. I've just germinated 6 of the Six Shooter seeds as my next grow is going to be an attempt at getting the magical 10oz per plant. Only 5 of those seeds germinated using FastBuds recommended method so I popped another one in 2 days ago and that has now germinated. Seems your always going to get 1 or 2 duds regardless what method you use.
RastaMouse
RastaMousecommented6 years ago
@TheIceCreamParlour, I had same problem with there gorilla glue germinate 5 only 1 cracked. Filled out there form and they replaced them.
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommented6 years ago
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Tried_and_Tested
Tried_and_Testedcommentedweek 136 years ago
Awesome looking journal and congrats on the good harvest! :D I was wondering how many lights you use, and how big your grow space is? It looks like you have the balance perfect seeing the canopy from week 8 onwards :) I'm thinking of switching over to them myself, so trying to find some good examples of people using them right.
Tried_and_Tested
Tried_and_Testedcommented6 years ago
@TheIceCreamParlour, thanks for getting back to me and appre iate the info! :) I prefer to train into a flat canopy like yourself due to the exact same problem, so will be giving the maxibright a a chance on my next run. Hope to see your next harvest soon! :D
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@Tried_and_Tested, Hey man. My space is 1.5m x 2.4m. Only 1.5 high so I have to train them out flat like this to stop them getting too tall. Lighting is 4x maxibright 315w lamps. I also have an additional led LED I sometimes introduce towards the end of flower. My advice is grow any strain you like the look of. If you top it and train it correctly with adequate lighting then it will reward with great yeilds. Good luck!
rudiak
rudiakcommentedweek 136 years ago
very nice yield mate! looking forwards to growing my pineapple seeds next, especially after this diary. Shame about the buds being so fluffy but guess it is what it is :)
rudiak
rudiakcommented6 years ago
@TheIceCreamParlour, thats good to know as I run 600 hps in 1x1 so fingers crossed :) I already have the seeds sat waiting for their time to shine! The cookies are setting the bar to compete with currently ha!
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@rudiak, do it! I will be coming back to this strain very soon to have another go. As long as you keep her on minimum veg nutes and train her properly she will reward with very big yeilds. I'm not using very powerfull lights in my set up so I'm sure someone else could make an even better job.
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommentedweek 126 years ago
Amazing looking Budfield city you got there do you give free samples 👏👏😉😉🤤🤤🤣🤣
Silky_smooth
Silky_smoothcommented6 years ago
@TheIceCreamParlour,hahaha i’m not that far away from you lol 😉😉
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@Silky_smooth, Haha man if your ever in the UK hit me up for a sample!
Inquisitor
Inquisitorcommentedweek 116 years ago
looks like it could be potassium def and overfeed, did you fully flush the pot and give it a few days? I would drop your Hydro A and your Rooting additives. Once you have added your nutes, check TDS and dilute to 500/600 for a week, see if she recovers a bit.
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@Inquisitor, I think your bang on. I've dropped EC to below 1.5 for their last week and will make sure each pot gets at least 15 litres each time I water them. Shoukd help clear them out before final flush.
cabinriver
cabinrivercommentedweek 106 years ago
Holy smokes - these look wonderful!
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@cabinriver, thanks man. Scrog FTW!
Boxgrower
Boxgrowercommentedweek 106 years ago
That's how to make the most from a tent - stunning canopy mate.
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@@Boxgrower, thanks dude. I had a bad run on my stardawgs and let them grow out of control. Decided to go with a scrog and now I'll never grow without it. Unbelievable how efficient this technique is in maximising grow space. Can't wait for the next round with 3x SixShooter and 3x Gorilla Glue.
Dunk_Junk
Dunk_Junkcommentedweek 106 years ago
Looking great!! A scrog really is the most efficient way of growing methinks.. All nice even size.. Very pretty and pleasing on the eye. Might have to break mine out again 😋
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@Dunk_Junk, yep I completely agree. Unfortunately I've just had to chop my 4 week old six shooters down as they have flowered too early. I've popped some more seeds in though and plan on doing the same scrog grow with all 6 plants. That really will be a spectacle!
ChefDan420
ChefDan420commentedweek 56 years ago
🆒setup 🥅 good luck 👍🏼
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@ChefDan420, thanks Dan! I'm still a noob but trying to put everything into these Pinapple Express.
Spaceman
Spacemancommentedweek 16 years ago
you can not grow crystal meth 😟 very impressing roots
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@@@Spaceman, 😂 no you cant! Good job the seed didn't sprout ehh. Thanks! Testament to FastBuds genetics really. Plus I've been letting the pots go 48 hours without water which I find helps build the root mass.
TheWeedMan
TheWeedMancommentedweek 26 years ago
Goodluck growing :)
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@@TheWeedMan, thanks dude. Excited to smell these when they bloom.
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommentedweek 86 years ago
Thanks to the guys who answered my grow question. It was nute deficiency caused by overfertilisation. My EC pen was waaaaaay out and meant I'd unknowingly given them too strong a feed. Crazy considering the six shooter look fantastic and no burn at all. Just shows how strong that strain is.
TheIceCreamParlour
TheIceCreamParlourcommented6 years ago
@Inquisitor, yes I recalibrated the pen. I'm going to upgrade them after this grown.
Inquisitor
Inquisitorcommented6 years ago
@TheIceCreamParlour, Did you fix this EC Pen problem?
WeedWhisperer
WeedWhisperercommentedweek 134 years ago
Magic and congrats!!!
Psychonaut
Psychonautcommentedweek 126 years ago
great grow
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommentedweek 136 years ago
Love those bigass colas!!!...or do you just have teeny tiny little hands??😁 Congrats!
Pochogrower
Pochogrowercommentedweek 86 years ago
This harvest was badass
Iop420
Iop420commentedweek 126 years ago
Amazing bro👏👏👏. You have a jungle there. Looks very tasty 🤤. Peace✌️👌
Sgtoso
Sgtosocommentedweek 126 years ago
Wow! Good looking plant there!
growrocket
growrocketcommentedweek 126 years ago
monsters)))good bro
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