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20 L
Pot Size
0.25 L
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Grow Conditions
Week 3
Vegetation
10
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Height
13 hrs
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Seagro
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Kelpak
5 ml/l
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biird biird
6 years ago
+ Day 19 Started with first nutrients today. Waited four days longer than I would have liked because of the slight stunting in the first few seedling days with not enough direct sunlight. Going with organic everything for this grow cos it's harder to hurt your plant and your soils microbes with organic fertilisers/feeding. Used Seagro and Kelpak I bought from Builders Warehouse for R53 and R79 respectively. Dirt cheap. Went with 1/5th of the recommended dosage on each of the bottles. Fabric pot was super dry and took 4.5l of water. Bonaqua ๐Ÿ˜‚ Had accidental 200ml of runoff. Changing to tap water instead of bottled water from here on out. I read that you can get the chlorine in tap water to evaporate if you leave it out in the open for a few days. Chlorine kills soil microbes so definitely not what I want in my organic setup. I fill three 5l bottles with tap water and leave them outside for 3 days. It's crazy, the water smells like a chlorine swimming pool at first but after a few days the smell is gone. Seems to work. Apparently there's some other chlorine ion this trick doesn't work for but it's better than nothing. Also desperately wish I had a pH meter but they're like a grand for a good one. Maybe next season! Bag seeds with direct sunlight from the start are flying. If you compare the auto's day 6 with the bag seed day 6 it's crazy. Sweeeet!
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Grow Questions
biird
biirdstarted grow question 6 years ago
Is my plant stretched? Is it because I was away for two weeks and wasn't able to keep her in direct sunlight more? She was getting 5.5 hours direct sunlight for those two weeks but when I'm home I can get 9.5 hours direct sun. Is there anything I can do? Are my nutrients right?
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
hey @Biird , you're right that less light might make the plant stretch, but it's also a question of light intensity so it's more of a problem for indoor grows. Overall what I can see is that your plant is actually very healthy and vigorous and you're basically average height wise for the strain - so dont worry , the stretch is going to start now hopefully it will double in size, the bigger the better right? more bud ! you're doing a good thing with the mollasses - carbs are great for this period of growth ! i wish i could give you pointers but you're 100 that's the truth. ๐Ÿš€
biird
biirdstarted grow question 6 years ago
Single plant leaf finger has turned purple/almost black! I know plants turn purple from cold but it's not that cold, just really rainy. What's happening? Any other pro tips for finishing her off these final two weeks would be great too! About to flush. Anything else!? Thank you!
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CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Congrats on a very cool and very rare genetic mutation. This could be caused by the start of senescense , the begining of the end of the plant's life - usually you'll get "autumn colors" not straight up black though! Anyway as in all thing genetic, you can't do anything about it, and you can expect it to get "worse" (better? More awesome?) As you flush and induce full on senescence. So for the flush the main idea is to get rid of excess nutrients. So as you you know there are three categories of plant juice : nutrient, micro nutrient and additives. For the flush you can use additives , as I do, to flush more effectively. So additives like enzymes , chelation agents like amino acids (humic and fluvic acids) or hydrochloric acid (no joke, this is often used!) Also known as flushing agents do help break down the nutrients and get rid of any excess nutrients. So the baseline is 3 weeks plain water flush in soil for the best smoo hear smoke or with additives like enzymes that's 2 weeks, with amino acids that's 10-14 days, with flushing agent maybe just one week 10 days will do. But you will be good with plain water. Try using ice water or cold water the last two weeks , it will do something with her roots and help get those colors and terpenes in. Anyway man hope this helps ! Congrats on a fantastic first grow ! ๐Ÿš€
biird
biirdstarted grow question 6 years ago
Did I chop at the right time? She's an autoflower in week 8 of flower and week 12 total. Dinafem say it's an 80 day plant and it's day 81. The big fan leaves are yellow and dying. Some of the small leaves closer to bud sites are yellowing/dying. 90% of the pistils are dead/red.
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Stick
Stickanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey @biird! Buds are beautiful and the trichomes ratio on the picture looks nice, so congratulations on your harvest! Keep up the great work ๐Ÿ‘Š
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Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 56 years ago
Hi. I think your plants are looking good. Can't see any deficiencies. The WW is flowering now .. so easy on the N from now and more P and K. But you using Freedom farms supersoil (??) .. so you don't need any extra fertiliser (theoretically). The soil is constructed such that one only needs to water from beginning till end. I found that with my plants where doing worse with 'designer' ferts than just to keep it simple with plain rainwater ... because of the supersoil. However make sure to keep your water feed ph round 6.5 (get a ph meter. I use a simple probe one R145 +-. works ok for me). I can see a bit of stretch on your plants (WW) but I wouldn't worry about that. The cheese bagseed looks good as well. Hope she turns out a proper female. Follow my bagseed diary.. I'll be going through the process of eliminating males and females and then spotting the hermephrodites. Problem with bagseed is that they are probably pollinated by an hermephrodite... and then the seeds - if not male .. good chance it's a hermephrodite... but you get good females as well. Thing is your hermephrodite bagseed might polinate your precious WW auto or feminised plant.. ending up again with dodgy bagseed. Thing with plants are is to keep it simple and they will grow. Remember it's a weed!! haha. Another thing (we've talked about this before) when your plants are in pots and outside .. keep them cool. Plants don't like cooked roots. Let me put it this way .. have you walked barefoot on sand on a hot summers day? ooo eina eina .. we'll same thing for plant pots.
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommented6 years ago
https://hydroponic.co.za/hydroponic/monitoring-testing-equipment/
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@@Simsalabim, got it! Thanks! Will go easy on N nutrients now it's in flowering. Great advice. Where did yo get a pH meter/probe for R145 +-? I need one so badly! I am defintiely following your bagseed diary. Every week ๐Ÿ˜‰ It's amazing what you're doing. Well done! You taught me something there about the hermaphrodite bag seed thing. Makes sense and good to know. Thanks!
BudsZA
BudsZAcommentedweek 56 years ago
Looking good Bru! I'm also using the biobizz range and I've been pleased so far. Was under feeding at first but now going full tilt. Will be expensive in the end but will all be worth . I have bio grow, bio bloom and fish mix. Using the bio grow along with the fish mix so they both go further. Happy growing โœŒ๏ธ๐ŸŒฟ
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@BudsZA, That's awesome dude! I'm using cheaper alternatives to the Bio-Bizz nutrients that I can find here in SA. Doubt they'll be as good but hopefully they'll do the trick and then we can maybe all save ourselves some cash! ๐Ÿ˜‚ I am using the Bio-Bloom though cos I can't find any substitute for that. Watching your grows! Lekker man!
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 16 years ago
Hi biird. Just reading your questions to Mark from DinafemSeeds. I allowed my baby plants to get morning sun and then afternoon shade (when it really get hot). The problem is not really the hot temperature in general but the heat cooking your pot where the roots are in. Your pot (haha - your pot's pot) or growing container need to stay as cool as possible in the heat of the day. Several options here: 1 Place the pot behind something where the plant itself get sun, but the pot is in the shade. 2 Dig the pot into the soil 3 Cover the soil in the pot with mulsh / straw. Hope that helps.
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
Hi @Simsalabim! Dude, that helps so so much. Thank you. I planted some bag seeds in the same Coco Perlite 50/50 but gave them direct sunlight from the very first day and they are super far ahead of where the autos where at that point. The only thing I made sure of was that like you say, the roots stayed cool; I put them on a big white piece of plastic which reflected the heat super well so the bricks didn't get hot at all. It's a big Garden Master garden refuse bag I got from Builders Warehouse for R10. (You can also wet it under the plastic if it's super hot and you've got the time!) At the end of the day, they're PLANTS and they like the SUN ๐Ÿ˜‚ You just have to make sure the roots stay cool! It's so obvious! I planted 5 bag seeds 2 months ago in small brown pots and the roots got cooked. The plants were doing great and then they just stopped growing and have slowly gone yellow. I transplanted them and kept them but they are all about 10cm high after 2 months, yellow, and just completely stunted. My setup now is that I've got the polystyrene cups which the bag seeds are in, dug into to soil in the big pots I'm going to transplant them into. This keeps the roots totally cool, even in direct sunlight all day, and the plants are looking MASSIVE for their age. Thank you so much for your help, @Simsalabim!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 106 years ago
Yo I wrote you this long long thing then my internet gave out lol FML ! Congrats on a great first grow and getting this far bro ! Looking real nice ! ๐Ÿš€
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommentedweek 126 years ago
Congrats! Yours should be a very good guide for other South Africans to follow! That's a big lawn...lots of room to try new strains! Out of curiosity, how many plants are you allowed to grow at a time?
Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerillacommented6 years ago
@biird, Excellent! Big photos: www.youtube.com/watch www.youtube.com/watch When (and if) they ever do legalize Cannabis where I live, I plan to put my landscaping skills to work and design some beautiful raised beds with waterfalls, ponds, and autoflowering plants of all colors! Organically grown in super soil, and gravity-fed watering by the Koi pond/waterfall which will stay around 6.5 PH...a recurring dream of mine.... And yes, I have many big dogs to protect my lawn ;-)
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@Silverback_Guerilla, Thank you so much! I hope so! What a time to be alive ๐Ÿ˜‚ Come next season (in about 6 months time ๐Ÿ˜ญ) it's gonna look a lot different on that lawn! Haha! They haven't decided on the amount you're allowed to have yet. So as long as it's reasonably for personal use I think you'll be fine. Think I'm going to go for 5 giant photoperiods in 100/200l pots next season.. And a few autos ๐Ÿ˜
smurgrow
smurgrowcommentedweek 126 years ago
Hey! Thanks for this detailed diary, helped a lot when i just got started. Also in SA trying late season grow.
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@smurgrow, I'm so glad man! I tried to give all the details I wish I had known for my first SA grow. I'm following your grows now and left a fat comment there ๐Ÿ˜‚ Hope it helps! Crush it man!
420Maru
420Marucommentedweek 66 years ago
Looking really good!!
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@420Maru, Thank you so much! Same to you! Lekker man!
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 126 years ago
Not the end of the world if you harvested too early.. you'll get a psychedelic head high. Nice for active outdoor activities like hiking or trance parties. It won't make you lazy. So then just keep the weed for those occations. You won't fall asleep in front of tv tho. In fact a tv will make you nuts .. rather climb a tree.
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 106 years ago
Sjo. Plants looking nice. I can smell them from here...
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommentedweek 106 years ago
โ€œThink it's really a lesson maybe that less is more really.โ€ Yes! Weird and very cool. Same coloring in my diary Bryce Harper. The entire plant was black and it grew in warm temps. A food farmer I know saw it and said โ€œFigure our how to grow black leaves on plants all the time and weโ€™ll be billionairesโ€. He believes they grow faster. I dunno. She was robust Enjoy your harvest
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 86 years ago
Wow. Your week 8 flowering is looking good. It's strange for me, as we both started germinating pips about the same time. My plants are still in veg stage and yours are fat of flowers. I still have to wait a couple of months before my flowering excitement starts. I guess the advantages of an auto flower.
CannaCrew420
CannaCrew420commentedweek 66 years ago
Great work,lovely green stem and internode space!nice and tall for a auto,great genetics truely speaks for it self ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸปKeep up the good work Iโ€™ll watch till the end !happy growing
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 56 years ago
hey @Biird , you're right that less light might make the plant stretch, but it's also a question of light intensity so it's more of a problem for indoor grows. Overall what I can see is that your plant is actually very healthy and vigorous and you're basically average height wise for the strain - so dont worry , the stretch is going to start now hopefully it will double in size, the bigger the better right? more bud ! you're doing a good thing with the mollasses - carbs are great for this period of growth ! i wish i could give you pointers but you're 100 that's the truth. ๐Ÿš€
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 56 years ago
Hi, will say some additions to my answer. As long as the Gitl stretches, ( shes an xl lady) keep the kombination of vegetation fert. and blooming fertiliser,. But be sure not to give to much just giving the regular amount of vegetation fertiliser and add up some blooming. She will be a very big girl and she will need some N. Happy growing iam follow up, to see how she grows
Raaneal
Raanealcommentedweek 36 years ago
Looks like we are same strain, and about the same timing today's my day 20. Good luck, look forward to comparing along the way.
CannaCrew420
CannaCrew420commentedweek 16 years ago
Eager to see how she does in our climate,letโ€™s she what she does. Happy growing!local is lekker!
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 16 years ago
very nice choice of strain, will follow ๐Ÿš€
biird
biirdcommentedweek 56 years ago
@@Simsalabim, Hey man! I would love to know what you think of my Week 5 diary! Want the feedback because you're also in SA and I love your grow! Just starting my second auto today so will be using all the new experience on her! Let me know what you think? Thanks so much!
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommentedweek 56 years ago
Another this is .. you can't compare an outdoor grow in SA with an indoor grow. We only get 14h22m max daylight is CPT. That is way less than say 18hrs of indoor gardening. Remember that flowering in non auto plants are triggered when daylight is less than 12 hrs .. so your vegetative window of daylight hrs is somehow limited (in SA) as when compared to indoor or from growers in northern BC where daylight hours are much more .. hence the plants grow more on a day to day basis. Watch youtube vids of Mendo Dope .. grazy stuff there. Also good educational stuff from them. They have a video called 'How t to grow Mendo Dope' .. a must see.
Simsalabim
Simsalabimcommented6 years ago
All 6hrs of it.Cool will check out Top Shelf Growers
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@@Simsalabim, thank you so much! Watched the entire How To Grow Mendo Dope series and learned so, so much about organic, outdoor growing. Thank you! Amazing! A guy I've checked out that gets great results outdoors is Top Shelf Grower. Check out his outdoor grows. Lekker!
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedscommentedweek 16 years ago
Good luck with this grow my friend and thank you for choosing our White widow XXL auto for this adventure ๐Ÿ‘Š Let's see what you can do with one of the biggest Autoflowering girls I have ever seen. Get ready the fun is about to begin ๐Ÿ‘ All the best ๐Ÿ™ Mark..
DinafemSeeds
DinafemSeedscommented6 years ago
@biird, For seedlings I would not do any direct sunlight for the first week then gradually move the plants into more light each day. Allowing time to actimate to more sunlight ๐Ÿ‘ When they hit 21-28 day's old they should be fine in full sunlight as long as not to intense and watered well ๐Ÿ‘Š Now, a good auto for your climate. If I could only pick one that Would have to be White widow auto or her xxl variant ๐Ÿ‘Š Another week of steady growth my friend ๐Ÿ‘ All the best โœŒ๏ธ Mark..
biird
biirdcommented6 years ago
@DinafemSeeds, Hi Mark! Thank you so much! They just legalised growing in South Africa. I got my Dinafems from www.cannabisseeds.co.za and they were delivered discretely to my door in 2 days. Epic! Quick question, how much direct sunlight should seedlings in South Africa get? It's pretty damn hot and dry in SA and I don't want to stress my babies with too much sun! In summer, maximums average 35ยฐC and minimums around 20ยฐC. Thanks so much in advance, Mark. You're the man! P.s If there are any Dinafem Autos you would specifically recommend for our hot, sunny weather that would be amazing!